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Etch-a-Sketch

Unabogie

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Has there ever been a more brazen admission that a politician is just pandering and will say whatever he thinks will get him elected?

http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/21/10796763-a-line-that-will-be-tough-to-live-down
"Well, I think you hit a reset button for the fall campaign. Everything changes. It's almost like an Etch A Sketch. You can kind of shake it up and restart all of over again."
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For a guy like Romney whose positions have been rather...elastic...is this just to be expected or will this hurt him tremendously?

His opponents are already running wild with it.
 
Romney is a wishy-washy moderate with no core beliefs. The GOP shgould have learned from the last three times (1992, 1996, 2008) they nominated one of those...and got stomped! At this point, I think I'm writing in Mortimer Snerd. :(
 
Unabogie said:
Has there ever been a more brazen admission that a politician is just pandering and will say whatever he thinks will get him elected?
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Oh, this isn't about releasing oil from the strategic oil reserves? Carry on.
 
applecorped said:
Oh, this isn't about releasing oil from the strategic oil reserves? Carry on.
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No, it's about Mitt Romney telling the nation that his views are as transient as an Etch-a-Sketch. I already started a thread on the SPR. Why not post there with your derail?

Back on topic, I honestly think the EAS imagery is deadly. It's so easy to imagine and even easier to put in an ad. Look at how fast his opponents worked up web ads.

And every time Romney tacks back to the center this fall, his critics will just say "Etch-a-Sketch". It will just hammer home the fact that he keeps changing positions.
 
Jarlaxle said:
Romney is a wishy-washy moderate with no core beliefs. The GOP shgould have learned from the last three times (1992, 1996, 2008) they nominated one of those...and got stomped! At this point, I think I'm writing in Mortimer Snerd. :(
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I understand this about Romney since he governed as a liberal Republican in Massachusetts, but you think John McCain is a moderate?
 
Jarlaxle said:
Romney is a wishy-washy moderate with no core beliefs. The GOP shgould have learned from the last three times (1992, 1996, 2008) they nominated one of those...and got stomped! At this point, I think I'm writing in Mortimer Snerd. :(
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Define "logic"? A conservative could win over liberals, independents and moderates in the general election but somehow they can't seem to win over conservatives in the primaries. :confused:

Can someone explain that to me?
 
RandFan said:
Translation: He doesn't represent my world view.
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Let me tell you, he doesn't represent mine as well. But I don't think he's a "traitor". I think that word has lost all meaning.

Anyway, back on topic. Mitt should explain to his campaign director the real meaning of "I like to fire people".
 
He wrote (well, his staff wrote & he hung his name on) the single most anti-Constitutional legislation of my lifetime (McCain-Finegold). He also stood foursquare with Ted Kennedy in facor of amnesty for illegal aliens. (The McCain-Kennedy bill, in fact!)
 
Jarlaxle said:
Romney is a wishy-washy moderate with no core beliefs.
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No more than Ronald Wilson Reagan.

Reagan was a union boss, not only that but of perhaps the most liberal union in the universe. Reagan was a democrat and Reagan was governor of the most liberal state.

These RINOs are just bustin out all over the place, ain't they?

EDIT: FYI, "RINO" = " a person who believes that 4 more years of Obama is preferable to even the most weaksauce republican"
 
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Unabogie said:
I understand this about Romney since he governed as a liberal Republican in Massachusetts, but you think John McCain is a moderate?
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I thought he seemed very moderate until the 2008 election. Then he started pandering to the far right, and when he got the Alaskan Governor as his running mate that suggestion of moderation was scattered to the four winds. As an independent I used to have a lot of respect for McCain.
 
Funny.

But it's not Romney's fault. It's the rest of the field letting such an obvious pander crawl away with the nomination. Not like we didn't see this coming.

If anything, Romney was counting from day one on telling the hard right what they want to hear, and then reverting to his record to scoop up a few inattentive moderates in the general election. In this sense he's at least consistent.
 
Jarlaxle said:
He wrote (well, his staff wrote & he hung his name on) the single most anti-Constitutional legislation of my lifetime (McCain-Finegold). He also stood foursquare with Ted Kennedy in facor of amnesty for illegal aliens. (The McCain-Kennedy bill, in fact!)
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Yeah, it is so terrible when sensible legislation comes around. I prefer it when we let headless chickens dancing through ink write our laws.
 
Unabogie said:
And every time Romney tacks back to the center this fall, his critics will just say "Etch-a-Sketch". It will just hammer home the fact that he keeps changing positions.
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Yeah, it should be about as effective a one-liner as Kerry's "I voted for it before I voted against it" gaffe, which Bush kept repeating over and over and over again until everyone in the country knew it by heart (although I'm not sure I remember what it was that he voted for before voting against). I wouldn't just say "Etch-a-Sketch" though. Say something like: "He's shaking the Etch-a-Sketch again."

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RandFan said:
Define "logic"? A conservative could win over liberals, independents and moderates in the general election but somehow they can't seem to win over conservatives in the primaries. :confused:

Can someone explain that to me?
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Maybe that religious vote isn't as powerful as you think... They wouldn't much like Mormon's.
 
Caper said:
Maybe that religious vote isn't as powerful as you think... They wouldn't much like Mormon's.
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I'm not sure how that addresses my point. Why couldn't conservative Santorum and Gingrich win with Conservatives? And what makes anyone think that had Santorum or Gingrich won the primaries they had a shot at the general when they couldn't win the primaries?
 
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