Emotion atheists and logical atheists.

Re: Emotional atheists and logical atheists.

1inChrist said:
It seems there are atheists who don't believe in God because He's illogical. I have shown in earlier threads why logic and reason are tools of Satan.

You have shown nothing. Of course, logic and reason are, more or less, synonymous with intelligence. It follows that not being willfully stupid is being a tool of satan. I have asked you this before and you have chosen to ignor it. Take your God/Jesus belief system. It is identical to every other unsupportable belief system in that it requires that one belief without reason (as you yourself have said.) In as much as there is no more reason to have faith in one unsupportable belief system over any other that makes the choice to believe in Christianity or any other religion completely arbitrary. I don't know how any person can defend arbitrarily choosing to believe something that is demonstratably unsupportable, let alone how that person can have the gall to insist to other people that this unsupported belief is the actual truth.

Christians continually refer to Christ as though he exists. The only place he exists is in your imagination - show me otherwise. You insist on telling us that something is true for which there is absolutely no supporting evidence. Do you seriously think this is going to convince anybody of anything? Do you really think anyone should take your word for there being a God and that you know who that God is? And where did you hear about this God and this saviour? You heard about it from your parents or your pastor who all got it ultimately from some old compiled text written, edited, translated, adulterated, censored all by men, all of whom with their own particular axes to grind.

It's the word of God - because somebody told you it was. Jesus loves you - because the books containing the only source of Jesus stories tells you he does. You want to think you have found salvation, fine. You want to believe a bunch of old hebrew folk tales and a bunch of cosmic super hero stories, fine. But don't come in here telling everybody that you know what the truth is and we are all lost souls and tools of the devil.
 
Whyatica said:
Debate? Where?

Shhhh. 1inChrist won the debate. 1inChrist wins every debate.

Now, let him rest on his laurels.

(Terry: argument by Pink Floyd is a very common pseudo-skeptic fallacy. You did not win.)
 
Re: Emotional atheists and logical atheists.

25.4mmChrist said:
It seems there are atheists who don't believe in God because He's illogical. I have shown in earlier threads why logic and reason are tools of Satan.
Satan the father of all lies uses reason and logic. The "God of truth” (Psalm 31:1) is illogical.
 
Scot C. Trypal said:
(Terry: argument by Pink Floyd is a very common pseudo-skeptic fallacy. You did not win.)
Yeah but it's good fallacy.
 
Scot C. Trypal said:
Obviously, 1inChrist won this debate.

Good job 1inChrist!
Actually, to win a debate, 1inChrist must have an argument. He sadly has nothing more than assertions.
 
Bacon and Cheddar Quiche
1 1/3 cups all-purpose flour
1/8 teaspoon salt
1/2 cup cold butter, cut in small pieces
2 to 3 tablespoons ice-cold water
Filling
8 strips lean bacon, cooked and crumbled
4 large eggs
1 1/2 cups light cream
1/4 teaspoon dried leaf thyme
1/8 teaspoon pepper
1 cup shredded sharp Cheddar cheese
Prepare crust for quiche. In a mixing bowl, mix together flour and salt. Cut in cold butter with a pastry blender until coarse crumbs form; add water, a little at a time, until dough holds together and forms a ball. Shape into a disk, wrap in plastic wrap, and refrigerate for about 30 minutes.
On a lightly floured surface with a floured rolling pin, roll out dough into a circle about 11 inches in diameter. Fit dough into a 9-inch pie plate or quiche pan. Trim edges, leaving a little overhang, about 1/4-inch all around the edge. Prick dough with a fork. Line with foil and fill with dried beans or pie weights. Bake quiche crust for 10 minutes at 375°.

In a small bowl, whisk together the eggs, cream, thyme, and pepper. Pour into the baked crust. Crumble bacon over the top with the shredded Cheddar cheese. Bake at 375° for about 30 minutes, or until quiche filling is set and lightly browned. Serve quiche with fresh tomato wedges.

Quiche serves 8.
 
DarkMagician said:
Bacon and Cheddar Quiche
1 1/3 cups all-purpose flour
1/8 teaspoon salt
1/2 cup cold butter, cut in small pieces
2 to 3 tablespoons ice-cold water
Filling
8 strips lean bacon, cooked and crumbled
4 large eggs
1 1/2 cups light cream
1/4 teaspoon dried leaf thyme
1/8 teaspoon pepper
1 cup shredded sharp Cheddar cheese
Prepare crust for quiche. In a mixing bowl, mix together flour and salt. Cut in cold butter with a pastry blender until coarse crumbs form; add water, a little at a time, until dough holds together and forms a ball. Shape into a disk, wrap in plastic wrap, and refrigerate for about 30 minutes.
On a lightly floured surface with a floured rolling pin, roll out dough into a circle about 11 inches in diameter. Fit dough into a 9-inch pie plate or quiche pan. Trim edges, leaving a little overhang, about 1/4-inch all around the edge. Prick dough with a fork. Line with foil and fill with dried beans or pie weights. Bake quiche crust for 10 minutes at 375°.

In a small bowl, whisk together the eggs, cream, thyme, and pepper. Pour into the baked crust. Crumble bacon over the top with the shredded Cheddar cheese. Bake at 375° for about 30 minutes, or until quiche filling is set and lightly browned. Serve quiche with fresh tomato wedges.

Quiche serves 8.
We (my family and I) are now having quiche for dinner. Cool and thank you.

BTW, I am a real man
 
Re: Emotional atheists and logical atheists.

1inChrist said:
I have shown in earlier threads why logic and reason are tools of Satan.

Emphasis mine.

You're starting to remind me of Shanek.

You haven't shown that Satan exists, that you know what logic or reason or, but you want to base your propanganda on it.
 
Re: Re: Emotional atheists and logical atheists.

jj said:
Emphasis mine.

You're starting to remind me of Shanek.

You haven't shown that Satan exists, that you know what logic or reason or, but you want to base your propanganda on it.

You're starting to remind me of you.

You still haven't shown that all religious people don't use logic, as you claimed, but you want to base your propaganda on it.

George Boole? Nope, no logic. Newton? Nope. Pascal? Phooey. Euler? No way! Farraday? No sirree. Many scientists and mathematicians who happen to be religious? Nope, cuz you desperately wish it to be so..
 
You can't question God's actions. Everything that God does He does for a reason and He is all GOOD! You must accept the rules He has laid upon mankind.

You will get your proof of His existence one day. To say God never proves Himself is WRONG! We will all have proof of His existence one day, but you MUST prepare NOW for meeting Him! You must accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior BEFORE you meet Him or you will NOT get into Heaven! Jesus is like soul insurance.
 
Typical scammer - trying to sell insurance for something we're not even sure we have.

Anyway, I might spend eternity in Hell, I might not. Don't care, one way or the other. If God is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent, then my actions that earn me Hell are His will and a Good Thing. This is the inevitable consequence of your God's attributes - no matter what we choose to do or choose not to do, it's all God's will and therefore Good.
 
Lemon Pound Cake
You can use a blender instead of a food processor to mix the batter. To add the butter, remove the center cap of the lid so it can be drizzled into the whirling blender with minimal splattering. This batter looks almost like a thick pancake batter and is very fluid.

makes one 9 by 5-inch cake, serving 8
16 tablespoons unsalted butter (2 sticks), plus 1 tablespoon, softened, for greasing pan
1 1/2 cups cake flour (6 ounces), plus 1 tablespoon for dusting pan
1 teaspoon baking powder
1/2 teaspoon table salt
1 1/4 cups granulated sugar (8 3/4 ounces)
2 tablespoons grated lemon zest plus 2 teaspoons juice from 2 medium lemons
4 large eggs
1 1/2 teaspoons vanilla extract

Lemon Glaze
1/2 cup granulated sugar (3 1/2 ounces)
1/4 cup lemon juice , from 1 or 2 medium lemons


1. Adjust oven rack to middle position and heat oven to 350 degrees. Grease 9 by 5-inch loaf pan with 1 tablespoon softened butter; dust with 1 tablespoon cake flour, tapping out excess. In medium bowl, whisk together flour, baking powder, and salt; set aside.

2. In glass measuring cup or microwave-safe bowl, microwave butter, covered with plastic wrap, at full power until melted, 1 to 2 minutes. (Alternatively, melt butter in small saucepan over medium heat.) Whisk melted butter thoroughly to reincorporate any separated milk solids.

3. In food processor, process sugar and zest until combined, about five 1-second pulses. Add lemon juice, eggs, and vanilla; process until combined, about 5 seconds. With machine running, add melted butter through feed tube in steady stream (this should take about 20 seconds). Transfer mixture to large bowl. Sift flour mixture over eggs in three steps, whisking gently after each addition until just combined.

4. Pour batter into prepared pan and bake 15 minutes. Reduce oven temperature to 325 degrees and continue to bake until deep golden brown and skewer inserted in center comes out clean, about 35 minutes, rotating pan halfway through baking time. Cool in pan for 10 minutes, then turn onto wire rack. If desired, poke the cake's top and sides with a toothpick and brush on Lemon Glaze. Cool to room temperature, at least 1 hour. (Cooled cake can be wrapped tightly in plastic wrap and stored at room temperature for up to 5 days.)

5. For Lemon Glaze:
While cake is cooling, bring sugar and lemon juice to boil in small nonreactive saucepan, stirring occasionally to dissolve sugar. Reduce heat to low and simmer until thickened slightly, about 2 minutes.
 
1inChrist said:
You can't question God's actions. Everything that God does He does for a reason and He is all GOOD! You must accept the rules He has laid upon mankind.
It is statements like this that lead me to believe you are just joking. If there was a god I could and damn well would question him. There isn't a god so the statment is illogical. If there was a god it is demonstrable that it isn't all good. Everything came from him. All evil came from him. He was the one who drowned babies and infants in the flood. He was the one who time after time ordered the death of infants.

You will get your proof of His existence one day. To say God never prooves Himself is WRONG! We will all have proof of His existence one day, but you MUST prepare NOW for meeting Him! You must accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior BEFORE you meet Him or you will NOT get into Heaven! Jesus is like soul insurance. [/B]
If he had any balls he would prove himself now. He doesn't have any balls because he doesn't exist.
 
1inChrist said:
You can't question God's actions. Everything that God does He does for a reason and He is all GOOD!
You're right. I can't question god's actions. It's real hard to question the actions of an imaginary being. I cn, however, question the actions attributed to him. Like his tendency to murder people in the OT.
You must accept the rules He has laid upon mankind.
I "must" do no such thing.
You will get your proof of His existence one day. To say God never proves Himself is WRONG! We will all have proof of His existence one day, but you MUST prepare NOW for meeting Him! You must accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior BEFORE you meet Him or you will NOT get into Heaven! Jesus is like soul insurance. [/B]
Do you have anything other than FEAR OF THE HELLFIRE to support your faith?
 
zaayrdragon said:
Typical scammer - trying to sell insurance for something we're not even sure we have.

Anyway, I might spend eternity in Hell, I might not. Don't care, one way or the other. If God is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent, then my actions that earn me Hell are His will and a Good Thing. This is the inevitable consequence of your God's attributes - no matter what we choose to do or choose not to do, it's all God's will and therefore Good.

WRONG!

God created us with FREE WILL. God created Satan with FREE WILL. All of the evil comes from MAN and Satan who are exercising their FREE WILL, which God created them with.
 
Not all the evil...but then again, I keep forgetting that you have no clue what is actually said in Scripture about free will.
 
1inChrist said:
WRONG!

God created us with FREE WILL. God created Satan with FREE WILL. All of the evil comes from MAN and Satan who are exercising their FREE WILL, which God created them with.

Yes - an OMNISCIENT God creats us with Free Will - and knows EXACTLY what the outcome of that will is. After all - free will (for our part) doesn't negate his Omniscience. Therefore, every action we take, He knew we would take the moment he offered 'Free Will'.

Either Free Will doesn't really exist, or God isn't really Omnipotent and Omniscient.

Oh, and the Bible says that God created it all, GOOD AND EVIL. So God wants evil. And God wants us to do whatever it comes to our minds to do.

That being said, believe or not, I'll do what I damn well please, and be happy knowing God wants me to do this. Thank you.
 

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