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Dowsing it work for me!!

Old Bob said:
John G. A lot of static from the non believers but it doesn't matter. Like you I use a mental image of the target and when found then imagine depth until the rods respond. Be it a grave then ask gender and age. Have found unmarked graves of kin this way. It's the right brain that does the work, plus a whole lot more. Can you imagine the crap of going through the test, plus non believers present can subconsciously foul your thoughts. As for charity, not one helps anyone. As for the pie in the sky (the $1000000) no one believed me when I said "not interested" I have all I want. Anyone with a spirit can learn to dowse.
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Priceless!!!!
 
Old Bob said:
John G. A lot of static from the non believers but it doesn't matter. Like you I use a mental image of the target and when found then imagine depth until the rods respond. Be it a grave then ask gender and age. Have found unmarked graves of kin this way. It's the right brain that does the work, plus a whole lot more. Can you imagine the crap of going through the test, plus non believers present can subconsciously foul your thoughts. As for charity, not one helps anyone. As for the pie in the sky (the $1000000) no one believed me when I said "not interested" I have all I want. Anyone with a spirit can learn to dowse.
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By posting here, aren't you decreasing your dowsing ability by attracting the thoughts of non-believers?
 
Old Bob said:
John G. A lot of static from the non believers but it doesn't matter.
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Where do you come from being so arrogant? We only ask perfectly legitimate questions, which by the way none of you can answer. So in your blissful ignorance and arrogance you call those "static from the non believers". How convenient.

Old Bob said:
Like you I use a mental image of the target and when found then imagine depth until the rods respond. Be it a grave then ask gender and age. Have found unmarked graves of kin this way. It's the right brain that does the work, plus a whole lot more.
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Blah-blah-blah. Evidence? Proof?

Old Bob said:
Can you imagine the crap of going through the test, plus non believers present can subconsciously foul your thoughts.
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Finally! The picture is compete! "It's them non-believers! They are spoiling everything!!11"

How much more self-delusional can you get?

Old Bob said:
As for charity, not one helps anyone.
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Oh really? Proof? Evidence? Or you just have a mental image and we all must believe you? You really are a piece of work man.

Btw., even if so, with $1M you could start one that does. How about that idea?

Old Bob said:
As for the pie in the sky (the $1000000) no one believed me when I said "not interested" I have all I want.
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You might, but there are plenty who don't. What about them? How can you be so selfish?

Old Bob said:
Anyone with a spiritmental disorder can learn to dowse.
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Corrected it for you.
 
madurobob said:
Dude, you're totally harshing my dream of a Dowsing Shoe empire.
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I think your idea of a Dowsing Shoe is a bad one.

As soon as you encounter a ley line - you'll be stuck there forever, like a train on a track. So, unless you've got ley lines running through your front door to your office desk and the local pub, your life will be eked out entering the house through the window, working with your laptop in the garden bed outside your office window and standing across the road from your local watching your mates down pints you can't get to!
 
So, is there a consensus yet? Troll, Poe or Deluded?

Sorry, lets be fair... Troll, Poe, Deluded or Real? (If Real please suggest mechanism or just say "magic" - I'll accept with no comment an honest reply of "magic").
 
AdinDraco said:
So, is there a consensus yet? Troll, Poe or Deluded?

Sorry, lets be fair... Troll, Poe, Deluded or Real? (If Real please suggest mechanism or just say "magic" - I'll accept with no comment an honest reply of "magic").
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I'm lost...what is a "Poe"?
 
'Sfunny - I just Googled it myself.
Poe's Law
Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is utterly impossible to parody a fundamentalist in such a way that someone won't mistake for the genuine article.
 
EHocking said:
I think your idea of a Dowsing Shoe is a bad one.

As soon as you encounter a ley line - you'll be stuck there forever, like a train on a track. So, unless you've got ley lines running through your front door to your office desk and the local pub, your life will be eked out entering the house through the window, working with your laptop in the garden bed outside your office window and standing across the road from your local watching your mates down pints you can't get to!
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You'd have to pay extra for the Low Latency Ley Line Modulator anklet.
 
Old Bob said:
(the $1000000) no one believed me when I said "not interested" I have all I want.
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There are three kinds of people in the world. Those who understand maths and those who don't. No, wait, that's not what I meant to say.

1) Those for whom a million dollars is a significant sum, and who would be able to put it to good use (for themselves or for others), regardless of whether they are currently well enough off.
2) Those who are rich enough to know that you don't become and/or stay rich by turning down the opportunity to be given millions of dollars for no effort.
3) Liars.

There is no possible excuse for refusing to take the money from the JREF's challenge. Even if you genuinely don't need it for yourself (and let's be honest, I have yet to see anyone come here making paranormal claims for whom that is genuinely the case), you can still just give it to people who do need it. Even without taking the money into account at all, given the amount of hostility towards the JREF and skeptics in general, how could you possibly turn down the chance to prove us all wrong?

Of course, there is one obvious explanation that explains all the seeming inconsistencies - magic powers are only apparent to a select few and stop working whenever money and/or skeptics are involved. Wait, that's not right either. You know full well that you can't actually do what you pretend but you refuse to admit this, even to yourself, and instead carry on the charade despite everyone involved knowing the truth. If you really could dowse, you could spend just a few days proving it to the world, proving all those nasty skeptics wrong and bringing the world one of the greatest scientific breakthroughs since electricity. But you can't. We know it, and you know it.
 
AdinDraco said:
So, is there a consensus yet? Troll, Poe or Deluded?

Sorry, lets be fair... Troll, Poe, Deluded or Real? (If Real please suggest mechanism or just say "magic" - I'll accept with no comment an honest reply of "magic").
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"Troll" gets my vote.
 
AdinDraco said:
So, is there a consensus yet? Troll, Poe or Deluded?

Sorry, lets be fair... Troll, Poe, Deluded or Real? (If Real please suggest mechanism or just say "magic" - I'll accept with no comment an honest reply of "magic").
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I don't know. There are so many crazy people on the net that I wouldn't be so quick to say "Troll". You know, "Crazy" isn't really one of the choices... ;) Anyway, it would be my vote.
 
I'd vote troll, it just seems alittle too over the top to be real. But it is the internet, I could be mistaken.

I have a friend who was convinced he could dowse, by all other measures he is a completely rational and skeptical down to earth guy. I used to constantly challenge him to let me go hide bottles of water (that was the limit of his dowsing "talents") in the fields around his house and he could go find them. Everytime I'd challenge him to find water for me, he would just pick up some peice of metal and point at a tap...

I don't think he even actually believed in dowsing in the end, I think he just knew every time he did that a little peice of me died inside :)
 
Ashles said:
I was trying to come up with a simpler protocol that didn't involve burying stuff.
If he said the box protocol wouldn't work because, I don't know, his powers can go through soil but not 3mm of cardboard then fair enough, that's not his claim.

But it would be an easier and quicker test for him and a friend to do as a quick and easy self-test.
It's not like he doesn't already have the bottles. :)
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Or, you could fill the boxes with dirt.

YoPopa said:
Hi John,

I also live in MA and would be very willing to meet you at your convenience to do the most basic test of your abilities. Not for the money, I have precious little of it myself, but just for the chance to show whether or not these abilities exist.

As luck would have it I have property with buried bottles and have dug a few of them myself. Finding the spots where the bottles were discarded 100 years ago is very easy so we would not use those spots. I would dig several new holes and place either broken bottles, whole antique bottles, or no bottles and re-fill the holes with the same soil. Could you tell which were which?
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That could open up the possibility of the testee later claiming (on a false-positive): "They didn't dig down deep enough!"
 
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