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Donald Trump's bottomless pit of legal problems.

TurkeysGhost said:
To be fair, the process is the punishment. Spending years dragging out criminal proceedings is no picnic. Sure, it beats serving time, but it still sucks. These cases seem highly likely to occupy Trump's attention and drain his financial resources exactly when he needs both to try to win the Presidency, assuming he's not successful in entirely delaying them to after the election.

The civil side of things seems more pressing. If you're someone who could conceivably be owed money by Trump for some reason or another, best to get a judgement in while he's still alive and there's still any money to take.
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There is a simple way to speed up Trump's legal processes. Jail him.
 
The people sitting in jail for months to years waiting for their trials to be scheduled indicate that jail is not a means of speedy trial.
 
Silly Green Monkey said:
The people sitting in jail for months to years waiting for their trials to be scheduled indicate that jail is not a means of speedy trial.
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I think the point is, if Trump is held in jail awaiting trial, he is unlikely to engage in any of the delaying tactics that he is known for. (He won't file motions and appeals over executive privilege, he won't ask for trials to take place years from now, etc.)

Yes, others can get stuck in jail while awaiting trial. But in those cases, it is the justice system that is failing, not the defendants deliberately messing with the system.
 
Segnosaur said:
I think the point is, if Trump is held in jail awaiting trial, he is unlikely to engage in any of the delaying tactics that he is known for. (He won't file motions and appeals over executive privilege, he won't ask for trials to take place years from now, etc.)

Yes, others can get stuck in jail while awaiting trial. But in those cases, it is the justice system that is failing, not the defendants deliberately messing with the system.
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Correct, that was the point. If jailed, he would scream bloody murder to speed things up. I don't think being jailed causes the trial to be unfair either. Hell, he could be jailed if his bond is revoked because he starts insulting witnesses.
 
Another legal issue for Trump...

He is suing former lawyer Michael Cohen for $500 million for harm to his reputation. The problem for Trump is that he has to sit for a deposition (which is scheduled for early September)...

From Yahoo
Former President Donald Trump has been called to sit for a deposition in September as part of his lawsuit against his former attorney Michael Cohen. Mr Trump is seeking $500m from his former fixer. Cohen’s attorneys scheduled the deposition for 6 September...

(Trump is of course whining about having to do that.)

I can't see this going well for Trump. He tried suing the authors of a book who claimed "Trump isn't a billionaire" and the case was tossed out of court. I suspect his testimony at the deposition will either be a lot of "I don't know/Plead the 5th" (which won't help him in the lawsuit) or he will say things that incriminate himself. He'd be better off dropping the case.
 
TurkeysGhost said:
There is a very clear bottom, in that Trump is a rather obviously unfit man pushing up on 80 years of age, and sooner or later he's going to die and be unburdened by any legal woes.

I don't mean this entirely as snark, there's a very real ticking clock for anyone trying to take action against Trump. Criminal charges end at death, and some kinds of civil cases may as well, IANAL. Anyone with a legal claim against Trump probably ought to take action sooner rather than later.
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Maybe any actual assets Trump has will go to people suing his estate and none of it to his kids. :thumbsup:
 
Segnosaur said:
Another legal issue for Trump...

He is suing former lawyer Michael Cohen for $500 million for harm to his reputation. The problem for Trump is that he has to sit for a deposition (which is scheduled for early September)...

From Yahoo
Former President Donald Trump has been called to sit for a deposition in September as part of his lawsuit against his former attorney Michael Cohen. Mr Trump is seeking $500m from his former fixer. Cohen’s attorneys scheduled the deposition for 6 September...

(Trump is of course whining about having to do that.)

I can't see this going well for Trump. He tried suing the authors of a book who claimed "Trump isn't a billionaire" and the case was tossed out of court. I suspect his testimony at the deposition will either be a lot of "I don't know/Plead the 5th" (which won't help him in the lawsuit) or he will say things that incriminate himself. He'd be better off dropping the case.
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Trump's arraignment in Georgia has been scheduled for September 6th. The same day that is scheduled for Trump's deposition in his lawsuit against Michael Cohen.

Now from what I understand Trump may be arraigned via Zoom so if he desires, he can still be deposed. But this has thrown a small monkey wrench into that proceeding. Trump is almost certainly is going to try and delay that deposition. But it is his lawsuit, Trump's delay tactics is likely to cause the suit to be thrown out soon.
 
slyjoe said:
There is a simple way to speed up Trump's legal processes. Jail him.
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dudalb said:
That would backfire. I want Trump in Prison as much as anybody, but think it is important that he is seen as getting a fair trial.
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Trump in prison: Right wing screams unfair, two tiered system, etc.
Trump getting a fair trial: Right wing screams unfair, two tiered system, etc.
 
Trebuchet said:
Trump in prison: Right wing screams unfair, two tiered system, etc.
Trump getting a fair trial: Right wing screams unfair, two tiered system, etc.
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They're right. There is a two tiered system. That is the only thing that has kept Trump out of prison his whole life.

One only look at the January 6th insurrectionists that have already been jailed and imprisoned. Whereas the individuals who planned it all have barely smelled a whiff of jail.
 
Mike! said:
I've seen reports he's been quietly signing major assets over to Junior already, including Mar-a-Lago.
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Courts can go after that stuff anyway, but this is premature. Maybe all that stuff is mortgaged to the hilt.The banks and creditors might get first dibs and that won't matter whose name is on the title.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Maybe any actual assets Trump has will go to people suing his estate and none of it to his kids. :thumbsup:
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I'm curious how much of Trump's wealth is actually personally held versus held by various companies.

Trump was also famously the king of debt and a routine liar about how much liquid cash he and his businesses had. There may be much less to take than people think.

ahh, Skeptic Ginger has already mentioned the debt thing, so I'll just say I agree.
 
This really isn't about Donald Trump’s legal problems.

It is about one of his co-conspirators. Rudy Giuliani has just been found liable for defamation agains Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss.

The judge found his conduct so egregious and dishonest that the judge found him in default. There will be a mini trial starting in November or shortly after to determine the amount of the compensatory and punitive damages.
 
acbytesla said:
This really isn't about Donald Trump’s legal problems.

It is about one of his co-conspirators. Rudy Giuliani has just been found liable for defamation agains Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss.
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I wonder if Trump would have any exposure if Freemen/Moss decided to go after him.

I know Discount Nosferatu was the most high-profile person to defame them. But didn't Stubby McBonespurs also mention them in his Truth Social posts?
 
Segnosaur said:
I wonder if Trump would have any exposure if Freemen/Moss decided to go after him.

I know Discount Nosferatu was the most high-profile person to defame them. But didn't Stubby McBonespurs also mention them in his Truth Social posts?
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I'm pretty sure he did. But I think there are practical reasons why they are not likely to sue Donald.

They sued I believe it was OAN (might have been NEWSMAX) and settled out of court.

Rudy more than anyone repeated these false accusations. This is going to cost him millions.
 
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