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Greedo said:
It's nonsense and you know it. You're trolling!
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No, I think the VAB is smaller than they claim and the most likely reason is that the Saturn V rocket is smaller than NASA says it is. And the reason Saturn V is smaller is that it was meant for the NRO to put military satellites into orbit, not for moon travel which was just a peaceful public front.

The image is from this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFR6z7YuDW4

Compare with Google Maps: http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/6949/vabk.jpg

Here is the original Google Maps location: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&l...8&t=h&vpsrc=6&lci=bike&z=17&source=gplus-ogsb
 
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Drivel. It's impossible to compare anything when the perspectives are so drastically different. Again, explain the purpose of the false size. Utter nonsense.
 
Greedo said:
Drivel. It's impossible to compare anything when the perspectives are so drastically different. Again, explain the purpose of the false size. Utter nonsense.
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It's possible to make a comparison. For example, compare the building next to the right of the VAB and when the left edge of it aligns with the right edge of the VAB.

The purpose of the smaller size of the VAB, the Vehicle Assembly Building, was to make the Saturn V rockets look like they were as big as they claimed when in reality they were smaller.
 
Anders Lindman said:
It's possible to make a comparison. For example, compare the building next to the right of the VAB and when the left edge of it aligns with the right edge of the VAB.

The purpose of the smaller size of the VAB, the Vehicle Assembly Building, was to make the Saturn V rockets look like they were as big as they claimed when in reality they were smaller.
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Actually the VAB is even smaller than it looks. The Saturn V and Shuttle were both 5/8 scale. But the VAB is bigger on the inside.

The real purpose of the VAB is to house Professor Von Dildo's Polydimentional Dirigible, which NASA uses to take foreign dignitaries on daily flights to Uranus.
 
Anders Lindman said:
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... was to make the Saturn V rockets look like they were as big as they claimed when in reality they were smaller.
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...the purpose of which you still are to explain.

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ApolloGnomon said:
Actually the VAB is even smaller than it looks. The Saturn V and Shuttle were both 5/8 scale. But the VAB is bigger on the inside.

The real purpose of the VAB is to house Professor Von Dildo's Polydimentional Dirigible, which NASA uses to take foreign dignitaries on daily flights to Uranus.
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I loled :D
 
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Greedo said:
Drivel. It's impossible to compare anything when the perspectives are so drastically different. Again, explain the purpose of the false size. Utter nonsense.
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If you zoom into the google map street view and rotate it around (and shift where on the street you are looking), it becomes really apparent just how huge that building is.
 
Anders Lindman said:
One prediction is that particles cannot travel into the past.
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I asked you to explain your idea in such a way as it's implications become clear. Just saying "One prediction is that flowers will bloom", or "one prediction is that the sun will shine" or "One prediction is that the temperature of the earth will be less than 1,000,000 K" doesn't tell me how your idea leads you to that conclusion.

It looks to me like the opposite is true: if the past is created in the now, then there's no reason that "particles cannot travel into the past". On the other hand, if physics works the way that modern physics thinks it works, there are clear, mathematical reasons that information can't be sent backward in time, or in fact faster than the speed of light.
 
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Roboramma said:
You didn't fill in the blank, dude.
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The past grows. To "grow" means to increase in measure, such as in size or amount, with the passage of change.

Change and information are together enough to describe past, future, and the passage from past to future. The concept of time as some absolute line is a redundant concept.
 
Anders Lindman said:
No, I think...
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That's where you made your mistake..thinking that anyone here familiar with the Apollo program cares about what you think about it...

Here's a clue, we don't.


But if you insist on embarrassing yourself further, be my guest.
 
R.A.F. said:
That's where you made your mistake..thinking that anyone here familiar with the Apollo program cares about what you think about it...

Here's a clue, we don't.


But if you insist on embarrassing yourself further, be my guest.
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By 'we' do you mean some Borg hive mind like in Star Trek that I'm not a part of?
 
Anders Lindman said:
The past grows. To "grow" means to increase in measure, such as in size or amount, with the passage of change.

Change and information are together enough to describe past, future, and the passage from past to future. The concept of time as some absolute line is a redundant concept.
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You still haven't filled in the blank, I suppose it's because you are incapable of doing so...
 
Roboramma said:
Your sentence is now gibberish. "Passage of change" doesn't mean anything.
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When we measure time it is the rate of change in the now that is measured. The past can only be measured indirectly and the future only as predictions. So time is very simple.

The tricky part is shifting the perspective. Some hundreds of years ago people believed the sun orbited Earth. With a more correct understanding the perspective was shifted so that Earth orbits the sun. A similar change of view can be made for time. Today people think of the past as something that stretches away from the now. The new perspective is that the past exists in the now.
 
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