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Merged Does CERN prove Einstein wrong?

Anders Lindman said:
Only people in positions of power are a threat to the international bankers. People posting speculative conspiracy theories on the Internet are no threat to them.
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So your plan is to never to be in a position of power?

I think it's working
 
tsig said:
So your plan is to never to be in a position of power?

I think it's working
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Correct. My aim is the state Eckhart Tolle and others talk about which is an awareness above thought. Here is Vernon Howard talking about that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H00a_707mWY

And from a practical perspective it's a smart move to move away from all forms of social status and power over other people etc. Within a few decades artificial intelligence will be able to do all the jobs we humans do today. All jobs. And the AI will have an IQ trillions of times larger than any human. So positions of power is seen from that perspective as something for neurotic and immature people.
 
This thread seems to have gone considerably off track since I last dropped by but:

Speedy neutrino mystery likely solved, relativity safe after all

http://dvice.com/archives/2011/10/speedy-neutrino.php

Those weird faster-than-light-neutrons that CERN thought they saw last month may have just gotten slowed down to a speed that'll keep them from completely destroying physics as we know it. In an ironic twist, the very theory that these neutrinos would have disproved may explain exactly what happened.

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Researchers at the University of Groningen in the Netherlands went and crunched the numbers on how much relativity should have effected the experiment, and found that the correct compensation should be about 32 additional nanoseconds on each end, which neatly takes care of the 60 nanosecond speed boost that the neutrinos originally seemed to have. This all has to be peer-reviewed and confirmed, of course, but at least for now, it seems like the theory of relativity is not only safe, but confirmed once again.
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:th:
 
twinstead said:
Why does everything you think COULD be correct just happens to be everything that is totally outside what the science community seems to believe?
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Because this is a conspiracy theory thread. So naturally the stuff I post will be considered outside the mainstream propaganda view. Most of science I have no problem with. Einstein's relativity I do have a problem with.
 
I am sure this has been pointed out to you before, but you do realize that all experimental evidence for relativity's veracity have been replicated and verified by many other scientists, right?

You do realize that anyone at all is allowed to study physics, and also replicate the experiments, right?

Hardly a recipe for 'Big Lie' propaganda.
 
Gord_in_Toronto said:
This thread seems to have gone considerably off track since I last dropped by but:

Speedy neutrino mystery likely solved, relativity safe after all

http://dvice.com/archives/2011/10/speedy-neutrino.php



:th:
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But is that article really correct?

"And they're totally, 100% correct, because the distance that the neutrinos had to travel in their reference frame is longer than the distance that the neutrinos had to travel in our reference frame, because in our reference frame, the detector was moving towards the source." -- http://dvice.com/archives/2011/10/speedy-neutrino.php

But the moving satellites were only used for synchronizing the clocks, or? The clock at the source was synchronized with the same moving satellites as the clock at the destination. So relative to each other the clocks were synchronized correctly. Or have I missed something?
 
jaydeehess said:
I am sure this has been pointed out to you before, but you do realize that all experimental evidence for relativity's veracity have been replicated and verified by many other scientists, right?

You do realize that anyone at all is allowed to study physics, and also replicate the experiments, right?

Hardly a recipe for 'Big Lie' propaganda.
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One source I posted earlier said that no experiment has been done to verify the speed of light for an observer relative to a moving source. I find that highly suspicious. Why no such experiment? I even proposed an experiment where a laser is accelerated in a tube with electromagnets to a velocity of 1000 m/s relative to the observer with a photon detector at the end of the tube.
 
Anders Lindman said:
But is that article really correct?

"And they're totally, 100% correct, because the distance that the neutrinos had to travel in their reference frame is longer than the distance that the neutrinos had to travel in our reference frame, because in our reference frame, the detector was moving towards the source." -- http://dvice.com/archives/2011/10/speedy-neutrino.php

But the moving satellites were only used for synchronizing the clocks, or? The clock at the source was synchronized with the same moving satellites as the clock at the destination. So relative to each other the clocks were synchronized correctly. Or have I missed something?
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I checked this, and yes the clocks were synchronized the same way at both source and destination:

"The OPERA team timed the neutrinos using clocks at each location that were synchronized using GPS (Global Positioning System) signals from a single satellite." -- http://www.nature.com/news/2011/111005/full/news.2011.575.html

So relative to each other the clocks were synchronized correctly.
 
JayUtah said:
I'm still waiting for your evidence, Anders.
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Forget about it. He's trolling. If he's not, he's delusional beyond repair. I've made the mistake numerous times, it's not worth it.
 
JayUtah said:
I'm still waiting for your evidence, Anders.
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I'm waiting for the CERN result to be confirmed. Now some claim that the clocks were out of sync because of the motion of the satellite used for the synchronization of the clocks. That sounds like a suspicious claim. Were the scientists at CERN so amateurish that they couldn't figure that out during the 3 years they looked for measurements errors? Gimme a break!

I guess that in theory perhaps if the clocks were always synchronized with the satellite moving in opposite directions relative to the clocks there may be a sync problem, but would the CERN team do that kind of mistake, and the same mistake every single time?! Because surely the clocks were resynchronized several times in their tests.
 
JayUtah said:
No no no. I'm waiting for your evidence that I'm lying about Apollo. Did you think I was just going to let you drop that insinuation and walk away from it without accountability?
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I don't have such evidence and I have never said that I have such evidence, so what are you waiting for?

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Anders Lindman said:
I don't have such evidence and I have never said that I have such evidence...
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Then how are you able to criticize things that you not only have no knowledge of, but no evidence for???

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Just, wow...

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You want to make outrageous claims without being held responsible for those claim....see, I think we understand you, just fine
 
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