Do brains really exist?

[Piscivore]

I only have confidence in "the truth", but not 'myself' (lifegazer). As such, 'lifegazer' has nothing to be arrogant about, since that truth doesn't do much for 'him'.
Can we move on? Otherwise, start a thread about me so that I can revel in my ego being discussed. Thankyou.

I didn't say anything about you or your ego. I asked why you think "naturally shy & quiet and retiring" would preclude someone from being arrogant.

 

[L7Cz]

..."naturally shy & quiet and retiring"...

Maybe it's natural that he should be shy and quiet and retiring, especially if he's given to spouting this nonsense at people he meets IRL. I'm pretty certain he would be shunned in short order, have zero conversations with anyone, and generally, get the idea that he's not socially appreciated. But here, every time he turns on the computer, there's someone who's willing to have a discourse with him, and he can always be the one to turn away from the conversation, thereby showing that he does have the power to control relationships, and giving his ego the shot that RL won't.

 

[Interesting Ian]

Please read about severe cases of epilepsy and the corpus callosum. A little research on Cognitive Science would be useful.

Amazing isn't it? Split the brain in 2 and we don't notice any difference whatsoever apart from highly contrived experimental circumstances. It seems we are compelled to conclude there must be something doing the unifying over and above the brain.

 

[lifegazer]

In case that you still dont get it. Why is this relevant? Because when this CC is cut, the personality, yes the ego, yes LG, the "thing" that you need to be "absolutely singular" becames divided. You should study about split brain patients.

Utter BS. Unless you're trying to tell me that TWO (or more) individuals are experienced by the brain at the same time, then this has absolutely no relevance whatsoever to my OP or to anything I have said since.
Whatever mental experiences are had, they are had by and as One.
I.e., the totality of all mental experiences is always had by
One, as a singular experience.

 

[lifegazer]

You don't have to believe that your own brain exists. In fact, if you don't think it does anything, perhaps you should have it removed and find out.

What a thick response.

 

[Wudang]

Utter BS. Unless you're trying to tell me that TWO (or more) individuals are experienced by the brain at the same time, then this has absolutely no relevance whatsoever to my OP or to anything I have said since.
Whatever mental experiences are had, they are had by and as One.
I.e., the totality of all mental experiences is always had by
One, as a singular experience.

You still haven't read up on it have you? Otherwise you would know that each half of the brain has private experiences.

 

[lifegazer]

You still haven't read up on it have you? Otherwise you would know that each half of the brain has private experiences.

Are you trying to tell me that more than one individual can exist within the brain AT THE SAME TIME?

The latter part of that question is the all-important bit. If your answer to this question is "yes", then of course it is relevant to what I have said. If "nay", then it is completely irrelevant to anything I have said.

I contend that the totality of experiences (whatever those experiences may be), is always had as and by One.
This is the basis of my earlier posts.
So, let's clear this up and then I can move on to proving that God exists.

 

[aggle-rithm]

Amazing isn't it? Split the brain in 2 and we don't notice any difference whatsoever apart from highly contrived experimental circumstances. It seems we are compelled to conclude there must be something doing the unifying over and above the brain.

Nope! There's anecdotal evidence, too. Your favorite kind!

Like the woman who habitually puts on two pairs of pants, because her right brain doesn't fancy the ones her left brain picked out to wear.

 

[ReFLeX]

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[ReFLeX]

Your threads aren't all the same, Lifegazer? This from the last time you started a thread in which the OP didn't refer to your Earth-Shaking Philosophy:

Squire, the thread is titled "New perspectives on relativity" and has been posted in the philosophy forum because I wanted to link some of the things Einstein said to my own idealistic form of philosophy.
That's what I want to talk about here.

Oh dear. So when was the last time you started a thread that wasn't really about your philosophy? Or even outside of R & P? Your Philosophy has an extremely narrow scope, much as you would deny it. You talk about almost nothing except about the fact that God Really Exists, and continue to abuse the words "consciousness", "awareness", "perception" and "reality" to your own ends. Because of your perseverance, your philosophy has been subject to more scrutiny than almost anyone else's here. Subsequently, even no one accepts it, you continue to think it is the truth, the way and the life, as if you were The Messiah. But the world will leave you behind, sir, and forget all about you in a historical blink of an eye. As it will forget me, unless I have an innovative idea that really changes lives, like many influential thinkers have before us. But I guarantee if you cling to this pet idea, you will not change anyone's life, only provide short-lived entertainment for few. You may not believe me, you may not believe the polls, but as sincerely as I can say it: you're wasting your time.

 

[Kiless]

Checking to see if Mercutio is NOT here and instead enjoying the sunshine. Good.

*flips lid, pokes about and finds lots of squishy*

Answer - yes.

*replaces lid, goes back to doing the washing up*

 

[Upchurch]

In a related topic, I would like someone to please explain to me how a lone piston allows us to be able to drive.

Or how a single copper wire allows us to run computer programs.

Or how a single brick provides shelter from the elements.

Or how the word "in" constitutes an entire written story.

Or how a single neuron allows us to think.

 

[Wudang]

Are you trying to tell me that more than one individual can exist within the brain AT THE SAME TIME?

The latter part of that question is the all-important bit. If your answer to this question is "yes", then of course it is relevant to what I have said.

Yes is the answer. They have separate experiences and decision making and apparently different dress sense.

 

[Interesting Ian]

You still haven't read up on it have you? Otherwise you would know that each half of the brain has private experiences.

Could you justify this assertion? I am not aware of 2 sets of private experiences in my own brain and neither are spit brain patients.

 

[Interesting Ian]

Nope! There's anecdotal evidence, too. Your favorite kind!

Like the woman who habitually puts on two pairs of pants, because her right brain doesn't fancy the ones her left brain picked out to wear.

And her brain is split? Or not split? We are often in "2 minds" about whether to do something. What happens is that we initially decide to do something and then we perform those actions on "autopilot" in carrying those actions out. Then our conscious mind changes its mind and intervenes. Far as I know the conscious mind still intervenes with split brain patients with the exception of a highly artificial contrived experimental context. This is difficult to explain unless you believe in a unified self.

But yeah sometimes we can be doing something and daydreaming while we're doing it, and suddenly realise that we can't remember why we are performing the action.

So I would say putting on 2 pairs of pants is explained by habit dealt with by one half of the brain, and aesthetic considerations dealt with by the other half.

 

[Z]

There are many interesting anecdotes which circulate about split-brain patients and the difficulties they have, since they now literally possess a divided consciousness.

But more interesting - to me - are those patients who suffer various forms of what we call 'brain damage' who suffer MPD or even forms of psychosis in which they swear they have multiple inhabitants inside their heads.

Yep - without the brain, there's no consciousness at all. That's enough for me.

 

[Atlas]

Are you trying to tell me that more than one individual can exist within the brain AT THE SAME TIME?

The latter part of that question is the all-important bit. If your answer to this question is "yes", then of course it is relevant to what I have said. If "nay", then it is completely irrelevant to anything I have said.

I contend that the totality of experiences (whatever those experiences may be), is always had as and by One.
This is the basis of my earlier posts.
So, let's clear this up and then I can move on to proving that God exists.

I think you're losing your grasp on what your One is capable of. While it may not be logical to you that your God might chose to experience simulataneous selves in the same body - what's to stop him. He chose to experience simultaneous death and simultaneaous deffacation hundreds of times a minute. He has fractured himself to do this in a delusion of multiple "selves". What makes you think that with all the crazy experiences you think he has designed for his delusion that he wouldn't give himself the two person/one body funtime.

It's his delusion after all. Or is it? Perhaps it is all about you after all. Hmmm. God can only be what Lg says. That is really the underlying assertion to your philosophy isn't it?

 

[Bodhi Dharma Zen]

Amazing isn't it? Split the brain in 2 and we don't notice any difference whatsoever apart from highly contrived experimental circumstances. It seems we are compelled to conclude there must be something doing the unifying over and above the brain.

Oops, no! not at all! in fact it is exactly the opposite! Read more about the subject, I was going to address it to you, but I forgot. Its nice that you didnt miss it. Extremely interesting stuff.

 

[Bodhi Dharma Zen]

Utter BS. Unless you're trying to tell me that TWO (or more) individuals are experienced by the brain at the same time, then this has absolutely no relevance whatsoever to my OP or to anything I have said since.
Whatever mental experiences are had, they are had by and as One.
I.e., the totality of all mental experiences is always had by
One, as a singular experience.

huh, you have done a great job in embarrassing yourself

 

[Bodhi Dharma Zen]

Are you trying to tell me that more than one individual can exist within the brain AT THE SAME TIME?

The latter part of that question is the all-important bit. If your answer to this question is "yes", then of course it is relevant to what I have said. If "nay", then it is completely irrelevant to anything I have said.

I contend that the totality of experiences (whatever those experiences may be), is always had as and by One.
This is the basis of my earlier posts.
So, let's clear this up and then I can move on to proving that God exists.

Huh, first of all, brains do not exists, remember? Now, I hope that by this time you finaly realized that yes, it is relevant. I told you that in my first answer, which, btw, was the first answer you got in this thread.

and nice touch your closing statement, my little apprentice, there is your sense of humor!