Interesting Ian said:
I'm sorry?? What on earth are you talking about??
Your inability to understand what you don't wish to understand. Look, you've just done it again, in fact... So let's walk you through it slowly, shall we? Understanding however will still not occur, at least for you... But it ruins Lifegazer's thread even further, so I shall indulge myself.
II is you, "Interesting Ian".
wandering by and doing his usual
"Interesting Ian" has quite a reputation at the JREF; and it's not a good one. But even if you did not have such a discreditted name here, you certainly have one with me. It was your own incredibly stupid claims with regards to ESP/Light which brought me out of lurking... and which got you suspended shortly after, remember? You have "past history" here, and with myself. So when I refer to your "usual", I am referring to a trait of "Interesting Ian"s I believe I have seen before, and which I consider in a negative light. You can be under no doubt that this is the case, and instead of trying to deny your own history, I suggest you deal with it.
"I can't imagine it, it doesn't happen"
Quite apart from the fact I said something similar in that other thread (which I have not had time to check yet), this is plain English. It's explains what I am saying you are doing. It is a trait of yours to assume that your own beliefs are true, and that if you do not believe it, it cannot be true. It won't take me much rummaging to find evidence of where you have personally expressed such prejudice that I have myself seen. Off the top of my head, you have so far;
* The aforementioned bringing me out of lurking by the incredibly foolish use of a visual illusion designed to explain how the brain is an imperfect judge of what it sees, but completely ignoring all of the associated details of said illusion in order to argue it shows why Ghost's are real, but their clothing might not be.
* Claimed I understood what your argument was, and then denied you'd ever said that I'd understood, because I then said your arguments were honk.
* Made claims for the properties of Light, then refused to read or experiment with anything which challenged your assumptions; and then stated you didn't have to know what RGB color was at all to know better than anyone else how light worked.
* Demanded the right to abuse "The stupidest person on earth" from the JREF moderators, accused me of enjoying cruelty to animals, amongst other things, and then stated you had never said anything at all which required an apology or even consideration on your own part.
And so on... Anything which does not fit your own inflated opinion of your "Interesting" self is clearly forgotten, brushed aside inside your mind. The above are illustrations of when I've seen you do this in the past. If you don't like the fact that you have shown this trait, I suggest you deal with it.
with regards to neuroscience this time
Shall I illustrate with a very simple example of why you talk absolutely infantile rubbish, Ian?
It wasn't until the modern era, and the development of and refinement in Neuroscience, that anyone would have been able to even diagnose a split brain, let alone understand any behavioural patterns associated with that condition.
But the fact that it took Neuroscience a long time to be developed, and then to diagnose split brain problems, does not mean that the diagnosis NOW is wrong.
Like all believers, you find the past age of ignorance more fascinating, because it allows your child like mind to play in the shadows of that ignorance, to claim that the modern knowledge isn't true because once people believed differently; and to hope that one day people will realise something different again, and that day, you'll be
right.
Except just because you feel that way, it doesn't have the slightest bearing on the objective truth. You try and claim;
It was quite some time before it was acknowledged that there was something peculiar about split brain patients
But so what if it took a billion years to acknowledge the "peculiarity" of split brain patients? IS THAT OBSERVATION CORRECT OR IS IT NOT?
Let's see; on the one hand, we have Medical Science; It is researched, operated, funded by hundreds of thousands of dedicated, intelligent, objective (as far as possible) people... and has saved billions of lives, made stunning breakthroughs, and so forth. These Sciences, and the scientists working in the relevant field, in this case the Neurosciences, with access to the relevant patients, now state that they can diagnose split brain sufferers and give detailed, peer reviewed information about what this entails, and why it should be so.
And on the other, we have "Interesting Ian". Get's drunk and abusive when his spiritual safety blanket is threatened. Refused to even do any virtual finger painting to learn about color what we all did at primary school with of our first set of poster-paints. II's answer to what the majority of experts are saying with regards to split brains is to keep repeating his own ill informed opinion about;
"This is because they appear to be normal unless one subjects them to specific highly contrived experimental protocols." ... despite the fact that "Interesting"s only direct experience of split brain injury is to partake in a Lifegazer thread which is just begging for me to take the obvious cheap shot about case studies... How the patients were diagnosed as having split brains in the first place, if not by abnormal behaviour, "Interesting" has not seen fit to tell us yet. Perhaps scientists just randomly brain-scanned billions of people until they found the rare one who had this misfortune; and then stuck them in a "highly contrived" situation to bring about the observed behaviour.
Go on. Which of those opinions would you believe understands split brains better? Which one has the greater credibility?
In fact... Which of those opinions is it that anyone ACTUALLY believes in the big wide world? When was the last time anyone took a suffering relative into Ian's usual drinking hole and asked him to cure the symptoms of a split brain by explaining how one half of the brain communicated to the other via ESP?
Ian, you live in a world where the people who say you talk crap are not just more intelligent, and infinitely more interesting than you, but are the same people providing the world with the knowledge, the material things which make everyone else's life so very much better too, and that includes your own life. Just because you want to believe in your own spiritual specialness doesn't make it true, and it certainly doesn't provide even the slightest utility for those suffering from split brains; Just ask Lifegazer... he can't even recall what he said an hour ago, but all your wibbling has done is help to trash his thread
And, once more... if it makes you angry to be so impotent, so discredditted... if arguing with people better informed. more widely believed, more pragmatically useful than someone who saves endangered species by eating them if they are on special offer,
I suggest you learn to deal with it.
