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Dear Mike (Michael Moore)

RandFan

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If anyone out there knows Michael Moore will you pass this on to him? It seems Michael is as spineless as Roger Smith.

Michael Moore Hates America

Dear Mike,

Just in case you visit this page, I want to let you know we’ve been faxing, writing, emailing and calling your agent Ari Emanuel, your media people, your production company and you to request an interview with you—to date, nobody has called back. I’d really like to get your side of the story—seriously, no tricks, no bait-and-switch! We just want to sit down and hear why you do what you do. If you’re interested, see the contact page. Otherwise, you might end up looking like Roger Smith (you know, that famous, rich guy who avoided that poor but passionate guy with a camera and editing suite). I think we know how it turned out for him…

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Lol...
The thing I enjoy most about Moore is the effect his films have on true believers. It sends them all into a frenzy.
 
RandFan said:


If anyone out there knows Michael Moore will you pass this on to him? It seems Michael is as spineless as Roger Smith.



So why should Michael Moore agree to be interviewed by every nonentity who needs some publicity?

Why does this make him spineless?

Does Moore routinely avoid interviews with unsympathetic interviewers?

He did stage shows in London a couple of years back. Hardly the action of someone hiding from the public.

Remember "only the game fish swims upstream".
 
Somebody who looks a LOT like Michael Moore just won the Palm D'or at Canne for his latest documentary work.

Michael Wilson it wasn't...
 
"Hello Michael Moore? I'm Michael Wilson, a no name film maker. I am making a film called 'Michael Moore Hates America' and I want an interview. Seriously, no tricks, no bait-and-switch!"

If someone feels the need to explicitely state 'there will be no tricks' I would not be likely to expect there will be no tricks. Of course Michael Moore should immediately invite the guy for an interview...

"Hey, why didn't you invite me earlier..."
"Well, I am a busy internationally famous documentary filmmaker who actually has a job... Unlike some people!"

That said, I saw the trailer and it looks like it's going to be a fun film. The chair on the poster is a bit smallish though...
 
Just in general, Mikey gets an Oscar for a film, then a Palme for his next, and his films pretty much follow what a lot of thoughtful people have realised (it's not like the US is often subtle in its use of force).
Yet we've seen, and not just here, what's the word... really hysterical criticism of him. And by "criticism" I don't mean anything rationally argued, just, well, a kind of screaming bile.

Still, at least he has the two biggest gongs in the industry on his mantlepiece. Along with a series of really bestselling books.

(No wonder he's so hated...)
 
Earthborn said:
That said, I saw the trailer and it looks like it's going to be a fun film. The chair on the poster is a bit smallish though...
Where did you find the trailer?
 
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Nikk said:
So why should Michael Moore agree to be interviewed by every nonentity who needs some publicity?
For the very same reason that Roger Smith should have agreed to be interviewed by Moore who at the time was a non-entity.

Why does this make him spineless?
For the same reason Roger Smith was spineless.

Does Moore routinely avoid interviews with unsympathetic interviewers?
Did Roger Smith routinely avoid interviews with unsympathetic interviewers?

He did stage shows in London a couple of years back. Hardly the action of someone hiding from the public.
Straw man.

Remember "only the game fish swims upstream".
It's called hypocrisy when you attack someone for a behavior and then turn around and engage in the very same behavior (see Roger And Me)

Thanks for the response.
 
demon said:
Just in general, Mikey gets an Oscar for a film, then a Palme for his next, and his films pretty much follow what a lot of thoughtful people have realised (it's not like the US is often subtle in its use of force).

Yet we've seen, and not just here, what's the word... really hysterical criticism of him. And by "criticism" I don't mean anything rationally argued, just, well, a kind of screaming bile.
Allot of the criticism of his recent film is coming from the left.

Irrational? Have you read the criticism?

http://mooreexposed.com/

A look at Bowling for Columbine (my main analysis to date). In producing his Oscar-winner, Moore altered history, misled his viewers, and edited the footage and audio in such a way as to reverse the meaning. In one case, he took a speech of a person he desired to target; the problem was that the speech was in fact conciliatory and mild. So he spliced in footage from another speech, cut out paragraphs, and spliced the beginning of one sentence to the ending of another. In another, when he wanted to criticize a political advertisement, but it wasn't as pointed as he wanted, he spliced together two different political ads, then added titling which was in neither.
Moore admits this. And he won an Oscar for best documentary for lies.

Still, at least he has the two biggest gongs in the industry on his mantlepiece. Along with a series of really bestselling books.

(No wonder he's so hated...)
O'Riely has a series of really best selling books. So what?
 
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RandFan said:
For the same reason Roger Smith was spineless.

Did Roger Smith routinely avoid interviews with unsympathetic interviewers?
Who is Roger Smith, and why is he relevant?
 
Zep said:
Somebody who looks a LOT like Michael Moore just won the Palm D'or at Canne for his latest documentary work.

Michael Wilson it wasn't...
Considering the attitudes of Hollywood types and the sentiments running against the current administration in France it does not impress me.
 
Re: Re: Dear Mike (Michael Moore)

So why should Michael Moore agree to be interviewed by every nonentity who needs some publicity?

Because all of his films-- Roger and Me, Bowling for Columbine, The Big One, ARE essentially films of the exact same format: Moore trying to interview and annoy CEOs, celebrities, and others he considers "evil" for being "capitalist exploiters of the poor" or "war mongers" or "gun nuts", etc., and then using the footage of their reluctance to be interviewed as "proof" that everything he says about them is true.

But, as you say, why should GM's CEO, or Charlston Heston, or president Bush, agree to be interviewed by every nonentity who needs some publicity--like Michael Moore?

Wilson's point is that turnaround is fair play. If Moore's targets reluctance to be interviewed by him is "proof" that they have a guilty consciousness and as just as much of a "capitalist exploiter" as Moore say they are, well, then Moore's reluctance to be interviewed by Wilson is "proof" that he has a guilty consciousness and is just as much an America-hater as Wilson says he is.

In other words, Wilson's point is that there just might be less to Moore's films than meets the eye...
 
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Kerberos said:

Who is Roger Smith, and why is he relevant?
Michael Moore became famous creating a show where by he tried to interview Roger Smith, CEO of General Motors who closed a plant in Flint Michigan devestating the local economy.
 
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RandFan said:
Michael Moore became famous creating a show where by he tried to interview Roger Smith, CEO of General Motors who closed a plant in Flint Michigan devestating the local economy.
OK, thanks.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Dear Mike (Michael Moore)

Michael Moore became famous creating a show where by he tried to interview Roger Smith, CEO of General Motors

But, but, but.... as Nikk said:

So why should Roger Smith agree to be interviewed by every nonentity who needs some publicity?
 
I think Michael Moore should grant this guy an interview. Moore always seems to hold his own in interviews. I can't speak for the other guy, but he looks like he's no dummy. I'm sure it will be an interesting dialogue.

Edited to add: Although would anyone want to give an interview to a person who's title of their film is immediately negative toward that person.
I don't think I would give an interview to someone who was making a film entitled "KelvinG is a Big Dumb Assh*le."
 
Edited to add: Although would anyone want to give an interview to a person who's title of their film is immediately negative toward that person.

So why should GM or Nike's CEO have granted an interview to Moore, when it was clear from the start he would be negative towards them, too?

CEOs of large corporations are, of course, surrounded by a codron of secretaries and aides whose job is to ward of pests of all sorts--and that includes "investigative reporters" trying to find out the "awful truth about CEO X".

Moore seems blissfully unaware that he is merely one of thousands of such nudnicks who try to waste such people's time every day, and that them "avoiding" him was no more than the standard response to his annoying requests.

He has a big ego problem.
 
Skeptic said:
Moore seems blissfully unaware that he is merely one of thousands of such nudnicks who try to waste such people's time every day, and that them "avoiding" him was no more than the standard response to his annoying requests.

He has a big ego problem.

I agree, for the most part. While I can sympathize with many of Moore's views, I don't approve of his tactics that border on harassment.
 
So this guys wants to make a movie that proves Micheal Moore was wrong and that America is a great country.

Whoopee!

This is agreat country, but it has a lot of problems.

Don't like the fact that I can discuss what I percieve to be problems with the US , great, go somewhere where there isn't a First Amendment.

Looks like it could be a great film.
 

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