Cryptozoology

[William Parcher]

I'm wondering if this "Nature Conservancy" would choose to no identify the tracks as a known species in favor of not pissing off the locals, or as Parcher mentioned to avoid setting themselves up for potential libel.

Tribal Leader - "These are the tracks of the magic beasts."

Nature Guy - "Idiot those are lion prints... *poof* <--turns into frog.

It was Marduk that mentioned liability, not me.

I would suggest that if the original claim you posted is true that the "Nature Conservation" was not able to identify any animal tracks, that they said this while looking at their feet and whistling nonchalantly, admitting that they were their lions would leave them liable for damages

But Marduk's claim is that the NC said "unknown species" not the villagers.

 

[Marduk]

But Marduk's claim is that the NC said "unknown species" not the villagers.

I think its important to remember here that this claim was not made by the NC directly, but is either claimed by the villagers (who believe in witchcraft) or the pseudo-journo (who believes in witchcraft). The nature conservation as you saw from the links I posted is well aware that the tracks are Hyena or Lion, as they are the two predatory animals escaping from their habitat.

 

[Bitter Monk]

It was Marduk that mentioned liability, not me.

My mistake. I still can't help but wonder if that wouldn't be the case though. Feign ignorance rather than anger the locals.

 

[William Parcher]

The report also suggests that while Government does not compensate people for losses caused by problem animals, there was a need to come up with a mechanism that would enable local communities to benefit from wildlife that causes losses, such as giving the meat of problem animals to affected communities.

Yes, we recommend that you eat the lions that ate your livestock.

 

[Marduk]

Yes, we recommend that you eat the lions that ate your livestock.

pity they don't do that really, the amount that lion meat would fetch in the chinese market would more than refund their lost cattle costs and probably pay for a new house, truck, swimming pool as well.

 

[William Parcher]

A retired public school teacher is going looking for cryptids. Canadian in Utah to seek 'strange creatures seldom seen'.

"I'm certain they exist," based on many expeditions and interviews, (John) Warms told the Deseret News.

These gigantic (prehistoric) beavers are his favorite focus. Though believed to be extinct for over 10,000 years, these are scientifically named "castorides Ohioensis" and can grow to up to 9 feet tall and weigh 440 pounds. He stresses that the fact that these giant beavers actually existed makes some of his claims much more plausible.

"I have encountered people in northern Manitoba and along the Alaska Highway who claim to have seen the bear-sized creature," he said. "I saw one in southern Manitoba, swimming, and the head was about basketball size. They seldom come ashore; that is why we don't know about them."

There are even tales of what he calls "underwater moose" and giant frogs, among other water creatures.

He also said he once met a Manitoba Interlake hunter (now deceased) who thought he shot a wounded moose in some willows in 1941. "It took me thirty-five years to figure out what I had shot," the old man told Warms. He had supposedly shot and killed a bigfoot (but that term was unknown until 1958).

Warms' interest in such creatures began 15 years ago. He has found that Native Americans who live near lakes and rivers are the best sources for encounters with such creatures. Once they know he believes in such creatures, too, he finds they are very talkative about them.

What does his wife think of his creature quests? "She wishes I were an ordinary person," Warms said.

Photo of gigantic beaver replica is at his website (link in article).

 

[Jeff Corey]

A retired public school teacher is going looking for cryptids. Canadian in Utah to seek 'strange creatures seldom seen'.




Photo of gigantic beaver replica is at his website (link in article).

And this shows Professor A. F. Konigsberg and his encounter with a giant chicken.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfrShu_Lp2A

 

[Bitter Monk]

Those giant beaver hunter jokes just write themselves.

 

[mikeyx]

Those giant beaver hunter jokes just write themselves.

truerer words....................

 

[WGBH]

 

[Drewbot]

@ Parcher- thanks for the Michigan Giant Snake Story

Re: Namibian mystery animals
Many African tribes believe in witchcraft, in fact, in Death in the Long Grass
http://books.google.com/books?id=yC...ass" witchcraft&pg=PA285#v=onepage&q=&f=false

Peter Capstick makes mention of the lycanthropic witchdoctor, who can change into a hyena. This is probably the same paranoia which is engaging the local Namibians. They won't try to kill it because of possible retribution.

 

[William Parcher]

The Religious Struggle over Cryptozoology

As it turns out, the search for hidden animals attracts two very different religious elements: the New Age and creationism...

But why would New Agers and creationists both be drawn to the hunt for Bigfoot?...

Because cryptozoology has positioned itself on the periphery of the scientific establishment, it offers these groups hope of undoing scientific paradigms and creating room for new sources of meaning and cultural authority.

From the comments...

I am a "Bigfoot" field researcher. I look for proof to either substantiate the existence of this creature or prove it. The vast majority of the people that I have met and discussed the subject of this possible creature with, are Christians and believe this creature is one of God's creations. Some believe it is actually refereed to in the Bible. Some believe his may be a direct decedent of Esau or even Cain? I do not know, my quest is to find out if any of this is real or just hype. So far, the evidence that I have gathered suggests strongly, that it is a real animal.

 

[Cainkane1]

@ Parcher- thanks for the Michigan Giant Snake Story

Re: Namibian mystery animals
Many African tribes believe in witchcraft, in fact, in Death in the Long Grass
http://books.google.com/books?id=yC...ass" witchcraft&pg=PA285#v=onepage&q=&f=false

Peter Capstick makes mention of the lycanthropic witchdoctor, who can change into a hyena. This is probably the same paranoia which is engaging the local Namibians. They won't try to kill it because of possible retribution.

All of this takes a backseat to the four foot walking frog.

 

[Marduk]

All of this takes a backseat to the four foot walking frog.

 

[William Parcher]

These can be fun. What is It? from Cryptomundo.

I think it's a Jaguarundi.

 

[William Parcher]

New Titi Monkey from Columbian Amazon.

Is it my imagination or is tropical South America producing more undescribed species of small primates than tropical Asia or Africa?

 

[fossilhound]

Either the lowland or mountain gorilla were thought to be a myth until the early 20th century. I also seem to vaguely remember Sir David Attenborough doing a show on wildlife of Madagascar, and stated Darwin (or one of his protege's, I can't remember exactly) predicted the existence of a bird because of the shape of one of it's more unusual flowers. The bird was thought a myth until someone saw one and was able to get photographs

While touring the world aboard the Beagle Darwin discovered an enormous flower and predicted the discover an enormous moth which could pollinate it. What was discovered was a hummingbird which was able to perform the dutues if the ersatz moth.

 

[William Parcher]

Cryptozoology.com is folding up.

NOTICE

Cryptozoology.com will be going offline.

Due to financial problems, the hosting fee cannot be maintained any longer. I am looking into moving the site to a cheaper hosting alternative, but the website may be unavailable for a while. How long - I don't know right now. This site will go down sometime in the next few days. Sorry everyone!

 

[Marduk]

Me, too. I would love for Nessie to be real. For some reason, I feel a deep personal connection to her.

Then this is your lucky day, Nessie is real, she was just misreported

 

[William Parcher]

Cryptozoology is pseudoscience.

The simple fact is, the body of cryptozoology is not pseudoscience. There is a very large amount of testable physical evidence in the field of cryptozoology, and testing physical evidence is science, not Maggie Koerth-Baker's "pseudoscience."...

...cryptozoology is a true science because it is based on falsifiable hypotheses.

The lumping of cryptozoology with other "pseudosciences" is incorrect for a very simple reason: cryptozoology, unlike the study of ghosts, UFOs, etc., deals in testable hypotheses. For example, either there is a large unknown animal in Loch Ness, or there is not. The means to test the hypothesis may not be available (e.g., a definitive sweep using the most modern naval sonar gear and hydrophones may be something no one can afford) but the hypothesis is, nonetheless, logically testable and thus scientific.

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