Coulter Chat Rules

[Upchurch]

I told you I felt like a black man at a KKK rally, and I think I just snagged my robe.

I'm surprised you haven't been banned yet, you troll.

Can you give us non-members a sampling of your responses?

 

[gnome]

As much as I enjoyed the effort, I think they were able to see through it. I think it would be a better test to start out as a fan, then gradually, in future posts, push the envelope, and see how the mods react. For a first post, this probably just looked too suspicious.

More interesting would be to gradually start cheering some of her more outrageous statements, expand on them, and see how long it takes for someone to say "Hey, waitaminute"... Like Billionaires for Bush...

 

[Lurker]

I too am curious as to what sort of person would dwell at coulterchat.

By the way, I did not think your first post was all that bad. Hardly worthy of being censored.

Lurker

 

[King of the Americas]

Well, my second post was locked, unlocked, then moved, then moved again to the 'irrelivant section'.

Insert roll eyes icon here

A sample?

I really need to save it, because it is all about to disappear.

 

[King of the Americas]

I think you are great. I try to watch you every chance I get.

As a 'goof' would you write a book on "Solutions", wherein you propose the 'perfect' policy to fix the problem at hand, sans-personal attacks of any kind...?

One book tour, where you say NOTHING about anyone's inability or insufficiency.

You have this huge microphone and spotlight on you where ever you go, why NOT take a swing at that hanging fast-ball, and try just for one book to deliver "Better Days Through Better Ways"?

I know this is just a pipe-dream, and this post will probably be deleted, but maybe an echo of it will reach your ears...

Thank you for your time and consideration.

King of the Americas

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You are an idiot. You already had this thread locked once today. Wow! You really had us all going

I'm sure you agree with Ms. Coulter.

How in the heck did Ms. Edwards get a password for this site? kingoftheamericas? Come on Liz, don't you mean 'queen'?

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I 'tried' to clean up the unacceptability of the previous post...

At least this one is unlocked.

I am NOT Mrs. Edwards.

I do have a message board of my own, and have had it a while.

Here, I thought I was a known Internet entity.

(*P.M. me if you want my website info.)




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kingoftheamericas wrote:

Here, I thought I was a known Internet entity.



Perhaps an Internet enema is on the way.




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kingoftheamericas wrote:
I 'tried' to clean up the unacceptability of the previous post...

At least this one is unlocked.

I am NOT Mrs. Edwards.

I do have a message board of my own, and have had it a while.

Here, I thought I was a known Internet entity.

(*P.M. me if you want my website info.)


Is this the same 'kingoftheamericas' who has claimed all of the following on various message boards?

1) I ran an unsuccessful bid for mayor in a North Central Texas town... to save the Boys & Girls Club

2) I paid off a guy that did bodywork on my car by working under the table below minimum wage $3500.... I got f' ed.

* Which begs the question of where you got the money to launch your Mayoral bid since you are so destitute. Further, I'd say it calls into doubt the veracity of your financial plan to save the boys and girls clubs in North Central Texas. Anyway... back to you.

3) I feel your pain... I too had a spinal injury and am confined to a wheelchair... I smoke a little herb to ease the pain... blah blah blah.

* Which I'd say is the sickest, lowest form of low. Claiming to be confined to a wheelchair? For what purpose? To get some sympathy on a message board. You are disgusting.

kingoftheamericas@hotmail.com

Screw off.

 

[Lurker]

More interesting would be to gradually start cheering some of her more outrageous statements, expand on them, and see how long it takes for someone to say "Hey, waitaminute"... Like Billionaires for Bush...

I think it would be good to use some of the language she uses and see how the people react. For example, I would liberally use "camel jockeys", "rag heads" and other choice phrases Coulter has used in the past. See if the readers object to that.

Lurker

 

[King of the Americas]

Well, my second post was locked, unlocked, moved, and then moved AGAIN to the "You've got to be kidding" Section, and now it is again, locked, and will likely soon be deleted.

245 views with 43 responses, in less than 4 hours.

Only ONE of them actually addressed the point I made, and then the thread was locked.

 

[Segnosaur]

More interesting would be to gradually start cheering some of her more outrageous statements, expand on them, and see how long it takes for someone to say "Hey, waitaminute"... Like Billionaires for Bush...

As much as I think extremists of all types deserve a brick upside the head, is that really an appropriate thing to do?

After all, I personally think its wrong to 'troll' a forum. (Its very annoying to have an online debate with someone who you find out later was just 'yanking your chain'. Similarly, we'd be irritated if we found out someone was coming on here to 'pose' as either a skeptic or believer, and then later on said 'Ha... I fooled you'.

The people on Coulter's forum might be right wing zealots (although we still haven't actually seen if "real" input from the political left is tolerated), but does that make them any less deserving of honesty?

 

[King of the Americas]

I don't think I am a 'troll'.

I enjoy good honest exchanges of ideas, and I almost always get someting out of it that I didn't have to start.

Debating issues and offering new ideas to new people is what the Internet is all about for me.

I havew never, and would never present myself as something I was not. I have only ever been 100% honest about who and what I am, and what I do.

What exactly is 'trollish' behaivor?

 

[Snide]

More interesting would be to gradually start cheering some of her more outrageous statements, expand on them, and see how long it takes for someone to say "Hey, waitaminute"... Like Billionaires for Bush...

Ooh...Yes, I like that much better! It would be interesting to see how their irony meters work!

 

[gnome]

As much as I think extremists of all types deserve a brick upside the head, is that really an appropriate thing to do?

After all, I personally think its wrong to 'troll' a forum. (Its very annoying to have an online debate with someone who you find out later was just 'yanking your chain'. Similarly, we'd be irritated if we found out someone was coming on here to 'pose' as either a skeptic or believer, and then later on said 'Ha... I fooled you'.

The people on Coulter's forum might be right wing zealots (although we still haven't actually seen if "real" input from the political left is tolerated), but does that make them any less deserving of honesty?

I have a split philosophy on this...

An honest forum that allows civilized open debate (or even uncivilized open debate) is worthy of respect... I would not presume to suggest anyone should troll the board if this is indeed its character.

A forum that does not allow messages (no matter how politely worded) critical of its subject matter... I have little sympathy for. Especially if they use tactics such as banning people after one offense, or banning people that ask about the banning. I'm not saying they've done that... I'm just saying.

Now, is what I've suggested trolling? Maybe it verges on it... but I would consider it instead a refined form of irony. Posting messages in SUPPORT, and causing people to think about what they're going along with.

 

[gnome]

Ooh...Yes, I like that much better! It would be interesting to see how their irony meters work!

My only fear is that they may have no irony meters, and would gleefully follow along anything that was said... until the provocateur realizes that he's just whipped them up into a frenzy about something he is diametrically opposed to...

 

[King of the Americas]

Well, 'I' seem to have been ruled unacceptable under this rule:

"-Any other inappropriate behavior (as determined by the moderators) may be cause for warning or removal."

None of the Moderators I have dealt with have been honest, forthright, or fair in their treatment toward me. NONE of my posts or responses have broken any posted tenet, and upon requesting what I did 'specifically' to warrant this attention, I got nothing in response, but a locked thread.

There has been nothing Free, Fair, Open, or Honest about how my material was handled by Ms. Coulter's chat site.

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kingoftheamericas wrote:
Could you tell me what specifically I am doing, to get it 'locked', just so that I can avoid any such behavior...?

RESPONSE: Usually, we like to let you know what you did after the infraction. There's a whole host of things that can get a thread locked; name calling, off-topic posts, inappropriate content (images or comments), etc. The list is endless.

kingoftheamericas wrote:
I believe I am being mis- or poorly treated.

My post, has now been moved TWICE, even though it has received numerous views and responses.

Please tell me what specific policies I have broken in order to receive this kind of attention from Moderators.

I have attacked no one, and offered only potential solutions to the problems that now face us.

Am I out of place here?


RESPONSE: We frequently move threads as they evolve, yours seems to have gone "train wreck" and was moved to the appropriate forum.

Nothing personal.

 

[Cleon]

You know, from now on every time someone whines about the mods here, I'm going to point them to this thread.

Thanks, King.

 

[Gregoire]

Thanks, King of the Americas.

I fully appreciate the irony of Ms Coulter's website.
What I wonder is what types of posts in her forum actually do not get moved. Are they just threads of everyone agreeing and patting themselves on the back? Do you notice any disagreement going on?

 

[Segnosaur]

Thanks, King of the Americas.

I fully appreciate the irony of Ms Coulter's website.
What I wonder is what types of posts in her forum actually do not get moved. Are they just threads of everyone agreeing and patting themselves on the back? Do you notice any disagreement going on?

That's what I'd like to know. So far, all we've had is KotA mentioning the response to his posts. Now, we here on this forum would consider it pretty mild, but basically his post was him saying nothing more than 'Why is she useless' (regardless of how many complements he threw in).

 

[Art Vandelay]

I think you may be overreacting.

The term 'censorship' gets tossed around far too easily. Keep in mind that the right to 'free speech' does not guarantee you a forum for your opinions. People running that forum have every right to determine what is appropriate and what is not.

To some extent. But editing other people's posts, lying about them and not allowing them to respond, and moving their posts, then moving posts where they point out that posts have been moved, goes beyond free speech. Free speech does not extend to libel.

I understand Moderators not wanting to have to defend every single banning, but that "a poster's removal is not a topic for open discussion", even among other posters???

Here, if posts are moved out of a thread, you're not allowed to discuss the fact. Is that any better?

If you've read any of Ms. Coulter's books you know that she doesn't just disagree with 'liberal' positions, but she is in the business of disrespecting, name-calling, and out right slanderizing those who oppose her.

Slandering, not slanderizing.

As much as I enjoyed the effort, I think they were able to see through it. I think it would be a better test to start out as a fan, then gradually, in future posts, push the envelope, and see how the mods react. For a first post, this probably just looked too suspicious.

Yeah, that will show those dishonest Right Wingers!

Well, my second post was locked, unlocked, then moved, then moved again to the 'irrelivant section'.

Your spelling or theirs?

The people on Coulter's forum might be right wing zealots (although we still haven't actually seen if "real" input from the political left is tolerated), but does that make them any less deserving of honesty?

More importantly, what grounds does one have for criticizing Coulter, if one is just as dishonest?

You know, from now on every time someone whines about the mods here, I'm going to point them to this thread.

Thanks, King.

Is that going to be the new motto here?
"The JREF Forum. We're slightly better than Ann Coulter."

 

[Art Vandelay]

JREF Forum Rules

1. If we post a vague warning, and you ask for clarification, we can suspend you. If you complain about such behavior, we can lie and say we didn't.

2. We can remove posts from a thread, deny that we did so, then, if you point out that we did, we can suspend you.

3. We can post lies about you in special threads that only moderators can post in, so that you can't respond.

4. We can move one of your posts from one thread to another, not mentioning in either thread that we did so, and when you point out that, in moving your post, we have edited it in a manner that changes its meaning, we can insist that the fact that it is not labeled as "edited" proves that it hasn't been edited.

5. We have rules requiring "civility", but they are so vague as to be meaningless. We will ignore some instances of blatant insults, while deleting others, with no apparent rhyme or reason.

6. We will remove a post from a thread, then claim that moving a post out of a thread is completely different from deleting it from the thread, and if you point out the absurdity of our argument by quoting one of our posts and moving one of the words in the quote, we will swear up and down that you deleted the word, and call you a liar for insisting that you moved it rather than deleting it.

 

[Art Vandelay]

And I wouldn't be surprised if I got suspended for criticizing the mods here.

 

[Gurdur]

And I wouldn't be surprised if I got suspended for criticizing the mods here.

Considering, IIRC, that you were expressly warned against doing what you just did here -- posting bitching about the JREF board policy / modding inside a thread in the wrong forum -- then, yes, it would be utterly unsurprising if you got suspended.

You DO know it begins to look like suicidal spam, yes? Hell, you coulda easily posted this in Forum Management, and only had the usual flame war, but you just HAD to do it in a totally unrelated thread in Politics.

Dude. From now on in it's all so predictable.

Anyway, naught to do with me. I won't report your posts, since I never report posts as per a decision some fair time ago. But someone is eventually going to stumble over it, and it will get split and moved, and most likely acted upon, and yes, your behaviour is just waaaaaaaaaaaay over the top. And utterly senselessly and ineffectually so at that.