Congressman Weiner's inappropriate tweet

Thunder said:
what do I care of Wiener sends a tweet of his bulging undies?
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Don't you understand that this is, in many ways, worse than 9-11? For the most part, 9-11 was penis free, but here we have a penis, so there's that.
 
Ziggurat said:
That list is not all the women he follows. It's a list of young women who are neither politicians nor journalists, whom there is no obvious reason for Weiner to be following. Women politicians and journalists are not included. So you're doing an apples-to-oranges comparison.
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In what way is it apples-to-oranges? Out of the 61 women I follow, only one is a journalist and none are politicians. Only one is in the same field of work as I am. So is 60 an "inordinate" number of women for me to follow or not?

Is there a threshold for when you follow too many women and you suddenly become a "perv?"
 
Ziggurat said:
Why are you asking other people? Can't you figure out an answer on your own?
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I think he wanted to read you justify the amount of passion you have for this topic once again. It is pretty amusing.

Did you know David Vitter had a diaper fetish? Look that one up, it will really set you off.
 
Cleon said:
In what way is it apples-to-oranges? Out of the 61 women I follow, only one is a journalist and none are politicians. Only one is in the same field of work as I am. So is 60 an "inordinate" number of women for me to follow or not?
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How many of those women do you personally know? How many are strangers except for twitter? Are you single? Are the women you follow in the same age bracket as you?
 
TraneWreck said:
Don't you understand that this is, in many ways, worse than 9-11? For the most part, 9-11 was penis free, but here we have a penis, so there's that.
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Suspected penis. I think it's more likely an inanimate carbon rod.
 
Ziggurat said:
How many of those women do you personally know? How many are strangers except for twitter?
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You don't know the answers to these questions on Weiner's part, either, but that doesn't stop you from drawing the (convenient) conclusion that he's a "perv."

I'll ask again...Is there a threshold where you follow an "inordinate" number of women and suddenly become a "perv?"

Are you single? Are the women you follow in the same age bracket as you?
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No, and yes (mostly). Relevance?
 
Ziggurat said:
That list is not all the women he follows. It's a list of young women who are neither politicians nor journalists, whom there is no obvious reason for Weiner to be following. Women politicians and journalists are not included. So you're doing an apples-to-oranges comparison.
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Surely the appropriate apples-to-apples comparison would be women-who-are-neither-politicians-nor-journalists-whom-Weiner-follows with men-who-are-neither-politicians-nor-journalists-whom-Weiner-follows. Yes?

I haven't been following this thread closely, but don't believe I saw that comparison provided yet. Has anyone done it -- and if so, how do the lists compare?
 
TraneWreck said:
I think he wanted to read you justify the amount of passion you have for this topic once again. It is pretty amusing.
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Yet here you are, still debating the topic along with me. Hmmm...

Did you know David Vitter had a diaper fetish? Look that one up, it will really set you off.
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I couldn't give a damn about the diaper fetish. The fact that he was illegally hiring prostitutes, however, is rather relevant.
 
Ziggurat said:
Yet here you are, still debating the topic along with me. Hmmm...
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My passion is for arguing. I think this whole thing is ridiculous even if the worst case scenario is assumed.


Ziggurat said:
I couldn't give a damn about the diaper fetish. The fact that he was illegally hiring prostitutes, however, is rather relevant.
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And if only there were an actual crime in this case (aside from the hacking, which would make Weiner the victim, not the perp), it would make some sense about why we would care.

And even if the crime is hiring prostitutes, I don't really care about that, either. Martin Luther King hired prositutes. It bothers me that Vitter was a moral crusader waxing sanctimoniously about Clinton while he was hiring prostitutes. An interesting historical footnote is that Vitter replace Bob Livingston who was forced to resign because of an affair. Livingston was, of course, one of the most obnoxious moralizers during the Lewinsky affair.

The infidelity is between him and his wife.
 
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Ziggurat said:
How many of those women do you personally know? How many are strangers except for twitter? Are you single? Are the women you follow in the same age bracket as you?
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Weiner's twitter feed is likely maintained by his staff as well as used by him, personally.

With public twitter accounts, often they will just follow whoever sends them a link or signs up at an event, or whatever.

Weiner has a significant following of women who find him attractive, the young lady in Washington who received the tweet and the porn star being two examples. If young women are more likely to message the Congressman in the first place, they're more likely to be followed by that account.

And that's assuming that there's anything odd about 28 out of 91 or 198 followers being women.
 
Ziggurat said:
I couldn't give a damn about the diaper fetish. The fact that he was illegally hiring prostitutes, however, is rather relevant.
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So Diapers Vitter is a perv and should not be in government.

But who do you dump on?

(I smell penis envy.)
 
Ziggurat said:
Have our past interactions taught you nothing?
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A lot of dickish responses, so little time...

If you're arguing this one for fun, don't let me stop you, but I legitimately can't tell if you think this is a big deal or not.
 
Dancing David said:
Citations :)
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Below are a few:

Gandalfs Beard said:
I only hope that this is indeed the case, but, as of last night, even Democrat friendly media outlets such as MSNBC had hosts questioning Weiner's behaviour (including Chris Matthews).
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If you’ve been hacked, the thing not to do, says Koretz, is what Weiner did. “I would not hire a private investigator, because they wouldn’t have access to Twitter’s back-end systems or be able to do the kind of forensics to get to the bottom of how it really happened,” he says. Hiring a private team, Koretz adds, “is really more about smoke and mirrors than it is about tracking a hacker.”

The move suggests “a desire to control the information that might come from an investigation,” says Paul Levinson, author of “New New Media.” Someone who really wants to get to the bottom of a crime would be more likely to go to law enforcement, or simply to the help function on a website, says Mr. Levinson.
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-http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2011/0602/Anthony-Weiner-Twitter-hack-What-he-should-have-done
 
Brainster said:
Don't look now, but your confirmation bias is showing.
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You are merely projecting your own confirmation bias, which the evidence of Breitbart's Dirty Tricks campaigns refutes. Anything Breitbart touches is a scam. I am just following the evidence at hand.

GB
 
For the record:

And today, she called out The Post and Politico, which headlined its pickup of the Post story with, "Seattle Student: Weiner Photo Meant For Porn Star," referring to a stripper who follows Weiner on Twitter. Cordova tweeted today, "I never said the picture was meant for a pornstar. He suggested it and I said maybe. I don't know and don't care." She questioned their headline, which is perhaps why they judiciously added the word "likely" to it. That totally changes everything!
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http://jezebel.com/5808278/young-woman-caught-in-weiner-scandal-handling-it-pretty-damn-well
 
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