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Clinton Crime Family Foundation

logger said:
I surely hope she gets the nomination, nothing would please more than showing how once again character counts.
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I got character and I'm a no-good liberal. I even thanked you for all you do for me.

Foolmewunz said:
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Let's invoke the Rule of So. (A nonsensical rule that posters with no arguments to offer hide behind.)

So you think the George W. Bush Foundation should give all that money they collected back to the donors? Want them investigated do you? I mean... daddy's a President, namesake's a president, they are part of a political dynasty with a brother now running for POTUS. Do you think it's a coincidence that the Geo. W. Bush Foundation is #66 on the Forbes list of top charities (by income) in America? And I, too, find it a scandal that the Clintons made 25 million between them with just over 100 speeches, while Dubya had to settle for a paltry 110,000 per speech and had to pick himself up by his bootstraps and make 140 speeches just to get his first 15 million in honorariums! America, every man a king!

How about his daddy's library at A&M? Think those donors were merely paying back favors granted or were they buying favors for the future?

I look forward to your astute analysis of the expenses, salaries and donations. (EG3000 is on vacation, or I'm sure he'd apply his broken database to it for you.)
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eeyore1954 said:
Admittedly I don't know enough about it but I believe they started the charity with good intentions and try to use the money wisely.
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They paid Sid Blumenthal almost $750,000 from their foundation, while he was running a back door intelligence campaign, lobbying for companies trying to do business with or with the approval of the State Department, and working for propaganda websites like media matters.

They might have gotten good bang for their buck, but I would not use the word "wisely."

Sleazy? Yeah, "sleazy" works better.
 
SezMe said:
This was not enough evidence for you?


That's the "TOP PRIORITY" for one of only two major political parties in the USA. Nope, I don't need to be hit over the head with a 2x4 to see malfeasance when it is so clearly displayed.
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I think you might have misheard. McConnell said the "top political priority," which I take to mean something quite different from, say, the top legislative priority or the top domestic policy priority or the top foreign policy priority, or, accordingly, the "top priority."
 
16.5 said:
They paid Sid Blumenthal almost $750,000 from their foundation, while he was running a back door intelligence campaign, lobbying for companies trying to do business with or with the approval of the State Department, and working for propaganda websites like media matters.

They might have gotten good bang for their buck, but I would not use the word "wisely."

Sleazy? Yeah, "sleazy" works better.
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And just think; if she wins, she'll be your president too!

Amiright?
 
eeyore1954 said:
Do you really think they are becoming wealthy because of that charity. I am pretty sure Bill Clinton could easily command high speaking fees without it.

Do you think much of that 500,000 donation goes into the pockets of the Clintons?
Admittedly I don't know enough about it but I believe they started the charity with good intentions and try to use the money wisely.
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Reasonable points. I'm a little less skeptical of the charity now. :)
 
sunmaster14 said:
I think you might have misheard. McConnell said the "top political priority," which I take to mean something quite different from, say, the top legislative priority or the top domestic policy priority or the top foreign policy priority, or, accordingly, the "top priority."
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And then he set out to deprive Obama of a second term by obstruction and trying to set records by being the least productive. They almost succeeded in 2014.

What is particularly telling is how a Republican idea would become anathema once Obama supported it.

GOP: Obama won't cooperate.
Obama: I like your idea of cap and trade.
GOP: We don't like that anymore.
Obama: I like your idea for health care.
GOP: We don't like that anymore.
Obama: I like your dream act.
GOP: We don't like that anymore.

Now, I've no doubt that there are those who will argue that there are justifiable reasons for the GOP to take a contrary stance against a specific bill. For instance: If there was a bill entitled "Save the Puppies" act of 2015 and contained legitimate points of concern that had little or nothing to do with saving puppies then it would be ethical to vote against "save the puppies".

Here's the problem, the GOP has shown little interest in these issues since Obama supported them. They've done little if anything to close the gaps, reach across the aisle for compromise.

However, they DID help some on the ACA so, to those who worked for compromise, thank you.
 
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eeyore1954 said:
Do you really think they are becoming wealthy because of that charity. I am pretty sure Bill Clinton could easily command high speaking fees without it.
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There's also the fact that the Clintons were rich before Bill ever set foot in the White House. Considering that the charity in question was founded in 2001, I'm not really buying the "they got rich from the Foundation" line.
 
jakesteele said:
Billary Clintounge are textbook examples of sociopathy. As for bankrupting the country from mismanagement, ever hear of a guy named Obama? His mismanagement plus George Jr.'s middle Eastern debacle, has brought this country to its knees. There's plenty of blame to go around. Please stop being so radically partisan; that is one of the biggest problems in politics.
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Can you be more specific?
 
NoahFence said:
Can you be more specific?
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I can. Doesn't look like we are on our knees by any stretch of the imagination.

Stock market is at record highs.

Corporate profits are up but currently in a downward trend (no where near Bush lows).

FactCheck said:
Obama’s Numbers October 2014 Update


  • Under Obama, the economy has added 7.2 million jobs, and the unemployment rate is now lower than the historical median.
  • The number of job openings is up to its highest point in 14 years, and the number of long-term jobless has now dropped below where it was when Obama took office.
  • Real weekly earnings are up 3 percent. But the number of persons receiving food stamps remains stubbornly high.
  • The administration says 16 million have gained health insurance as a result of the Affordable Care Act. But the National Center for Health Statistics estimates that 37 million others still lacked coverage last year.
  • The US increased its domestic crude oil production last year by more than it has in over 100 years. The U.S. now relies less on imported oil than it has since the Nixon administration.
  • The clock has run out on Obama’s promise to double U.S. exports in 5 years. They went up only 39 percent.
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sunmaster14 said:
I think you might have misheard. McConnell said the "top political priority," which I take to mean something quite different from, say, the top legislative priority or the top domestic policy priority or the top foreign policy priority, or, accordingly, the "top priority."
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This post is beneath you, sunmaster14. I mean that as a compliment. As Senate leader, politics is what McConnell does, 24 hours a day. Whether at any one moment he's working on welfare, domestic policy, foreign policy or banking standards or whatever, he is doing politics. Politics is his only job.
 
Cleon said:
There's also the fact that the Clintons were rich before Bill ever set foot in the White House. Considering that the charity in question was founded in 2001, I'm not really buying the "they got rich from the Foundation" line.
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Lol
Clinton said she was broke when they left the Whitehouse, remember the foundation is just a front for them, its a professional way of moving money around.
 
logger said:
Lol
Clinton said she was broke when they left the Whitehouse, remember the foundation is just a front for them, its a professional way of moving money around.
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The foundation is NOT their income. Prove it or remove it.

For all intents and purposes the Clintons, notwithstanding the book and speaking earnings potential, were broke in 2000. They owed 10,000,000 in legal fees. (Thanks, GOP! It almost worked.)

And you seem to have avoided responding to my points on The Bush Crime Syndicate. How come? Apparently all the Bushies have pet foundations where they get ratings of like 2 out of 4 by the various foundation-watch groups, employ their good old boy buddies at exorbitant salaries and gather "donations" (wink, wink, nudge, nudge) from people who are solely interested in preserving history and have no interest whatsoever in currying favor with the Bush Dynasty.

So, how's that coming? You working up a detailed response, are you? Or are you going to LOL-Librul! it away, as always? As someone else stated above... it's your thread... we're all On Topic. Now you can either respond or be seen to have nothing in your holster to reload your little pop gun.
 
16.5 said:
A real skeptic does not need to be given anything.

He probably googled blumenthal, there are 100's of articles about it.

Treat yourself, Google it yourself.
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That is the complete opposite of what a skeptic expects.

If someone is making a claim, it their responsibility to support it. And a skeptic should always be asking for that support.
 
logger said:
Lol
Clinton said she was broke when they left the Whitehouse, remember the foundation is just a front for them, its a professional way of moving money around.
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Lol.
Imagine that this line contains an unevidenced assertion.
 
Lol op. I can't wait for election day. So many conservative heads will explode when Hillary Clinton is elected President of the United States by the American people.
 
Tony Stark said:
Lol op. I can't wait for election day. So many conservative heads will explode when Hillary Clinton is elected President of the United States by the American people.
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I think you missed the OP's dog-and-pony show before the last general election. Disappeared 2 or 3 days before the election, though... for a couple of years! I'm sure it's a coincidence. Might've been a big tree to fell in his back yard and lost track of the time.
 
Foolmewunz said:
I think you missed the OP's dog-and-pony show before the last general election. Disappeared 2 or 3 days before the election, though... for a couple of years! I'm sure it's a coincidence. Might've been a big tree to fell in his back yard and lost track of the time.
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Obama's reelection was one of the best days of my life. Half becauss I knew that the country would be in good hands for another four years and half because I could tell Republican/conservative ******** to go screw themselves.. What made it best was the undeserved confidence they had. They where so sure they would win evevn tbough math (aka reality) said that Obama was tbe heavy favorite.
 
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