Chomsky -- selective memory and false doctrine

[rikzilla]

I don't know what to think about that one. He is only 17 after all, and he isn't exactly headed to club med either. I think they have a few more shots at him in different counties and so on so he's not "safe" yet.

Plus you might want to blame the jury. They are the ones that spared the kid's life. It's not the lawyers fault the jury fell for their argument. What happened to that "personal responsibility" thing you conservatives seem to harp about?

Suddenly,

All kidding aside, on a purely intellectual level I am in awe of you and your important and frankly dangerous chosen profession.

On another, admittedly baser level, I see you as a scumbag lawyer trying to put a murderer...etc...back on our streets.

So, mixed feelings are the order of the day where you and your colleagues are concerned.

As far as the Malvo case goes, I think the kid deserves to get the shot. But then again, I was one of those people looking nervously around while pumping gas during his rampage. Also, on the monday night that Linda Franklin was shot, my wife was singing at a restraunt/bar called "Pistone's" which is just across the street from the Home Depot in Fairfax county. I remember when the report scrolled during the Monday Night football game... woman shot in parking lot in Fairfax by sniper....I remember feeling like I was going to barf until I reached her on the phone. I can't imagine what Mr. Franklin felt as he was spattered by his wife's brains.

So, even though normally I'd share your reservations about executing such a yound offender,...this guy I'd fry in a NY minute. I guess that's why they took the trial out of our area.

-z

 

[Suddenly]

Suddenly,

All kidding aside, on a purely intellectual level I am in awe of you and your important and frankly dangerous chosen profession.

On another, admittedly baser level, I see you as a scumbag lawyer trying to put a murderer...etc...back on our streets.

So, mixed feelings are the order of the day where you and your colleagues are concerned.

As far as the Malvo case goes, I think the kid deserves to get the shot. But then again, I was one of those people looking nervously around while pumping gas during his rampage. Also, on the monday night that Linda Franklin was shot, my wife was singing at a restraunt/bar called "Pistone's" which is just across the street from the Home Depot in Fairfax county. I remember when the report scrolled during the Monday Night football game... woman shot in parking lot in Fairfax by sniper....I remember feeling like I was going to barf until I reached her on the phone. I can't imagine what Mr. Franklin felt as he was spattered by his wife's brains.

So, even though normally I'd share your reservations about executing such a yound offender,...this guy I'd fry in a NY minute. I guess that's why they took the trial out of our area.

-z

If you recall I also spent some time while pumping gas last summer considering fields of fire with my head on a swivel, looking for possible snipers. The shooting seemed to be moving up the Kanawha valley towards where I live, and there ain't a whole lot of gas stations here. They still haven't caught that guy yet, although the shootings have stopped. One night during these shootings, my wife was delayed coming home from her singing (some kind of classical choir type stuff) for several hours. We don't have that kind of local media so I didn't know if there was or was not a shooting, but it wasn't a very happy time. So I know somewhat of what you speak.

Funny thing is if they did catch the guy there is every chance I'd at some point participate in the defense.

I think my opinion w/r/t Malvo is greatly affected by the theories that claim that the human brain does not fully develop w/r/t responsibility usually until the very early twenties. I've found that consistent with my experience dealing with people who in their teens did something quite vile and are now behind bars likely for good. Some are just scum, pure and simple. However, there are those that seem to understand now what they maybe couldn't grasp back then. The irony is that these are usually the people that tell me that they to the most extent deserve their fate.

I don't think youth excuses this sort of thing, but it does bug me a bit when we are killing teens and giving 12 year old boys life without parole sentences.

 

[Grammatron]

I imagine that, in the 1930´s, some people were told that they were reading too much into this "Mein Kampf" stuff...

Be wary of the beginnings, I say.

Well you can run around scream it's the end of the world all you want, I'm not going to stop you. But frankly, there are far more scary stuff in bible, koran, torah than in that link. If you want to worry about something, worry about that.

 

[shecky]

NAZI's have been mentioned...thread is now closed....

Interesting how conservative nuts used the Hitler analogy with Hussein before the war, yet selectively toss it out the window when it's used against them.

 

[Chaos]

If it is Nazi comparisons that bother you, Skeptic et al., how about this:

I suppose that in the 19th century, people were told that they were "reading far too much into this Mr. Marx´s rants".


Face it. You have a long, long history of ignoring the real threats, and when things finally get ugly, of blaming the others for everything.

 

[Shane Costello]

Originally posted by Chaos:
I imagine that, in the 1930´s, some people were told that they were reading too much into this "Mein Kampf" stuff...

I imagine that the people who were telling them this were the same people who maintained a diplomatic solution could be reached with Hitler and that Churchill was a washed out war monger?

 

[Mike B.]

I imagine that the people who were telling them this were the same people who maintained a diplomatic solution could be reached with Hitler and that Churchill was a washed out war monger?

BINGO!!!

lol

Yes, that arrogant, unilateral, simplistic war-monger Churchill...

Doesn't he realize the world is complicated and not black and white as he sees it?

He refuses to work through the Leauge of Nations (You know the one that made it illeagal for weapons to go to the Ethopians as they were attacked?)

Why can't he be sophisticated like us?

 

[Mike B.]

If it is Nazi comparisons that bother you, Skeptic et al., how about this:

I suppose that in the 19th century, people were told that they were "reading far too much into this Mr. Marx´s rants".


Face it. You have a long, long history of ignoring the real threats, and when things finally get ugly, of blaming the others for everything.

Interesting...

You know for about 40+ years there were thousands of US troops stationed in the FRG, because the Soviet Bloc was indeed a real threat.

Or was it?

Was it a case of the US trying to steal German natural resources like the US always does to other countries?

BTW,
Who was being blamed for this?

And right now, who is the "real threat"?

I am not trying to flippant Chaos, but you made some very broad statements there. I am just trying to figure out what you mean.

 

[RandFan]

I imagine that the people who were telling them this were the same people who maintained a diplomatic solution could be reached with Hitler and that Churchill was a washed out war monger?

That's what I was thinking. The analogy was wrongly used. Reading too much into the threat of Hitler and reading too much into the threat of Saddam.