Cheney still defending previous administration

Tin Foil Timothy said:
Being patronizing is a discrediting feature.
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Being an sub-literate moron is a far worse one.

If you knew anything about Cheney you'd understand perfectly. I'm not here to educate the naive. Go away and learn about him.
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Nope. Explain how Cheney is a crypto-Neocon or admit you hadn't the slightest clue what the prefix "crypto-" meant when you used it. Your refusal to answer is indicative of your petulance and dishonesty.
 
INRM said:
Cheney will never experience remorse for what he did as he is simply incapable of feeling it because the emotion would cause his cholesterol saturated cardiac venom pump to spring a new leak and kill him dead on the spot.
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Fixed it for you.
 
I notice that Cheney couldn't give up the "they hate us because of our freedoms" rhetoric that was discredited early on in the administration.
 
Shortly after our start of hostilities in Afghanistan, Michael Sheuer, the chief CIA analyst in charge of the "Bin Laden Project" wrote a book taking the Bush administration to task for this assertion.
He pointed out that Al Qaeda didn't give a fig about our "freedoms" or lifestyle or any other such thing; they hated us because of our foreign policy.

Specifically, such things as our support for Israel, our support of anti-Islamic (in Bin Laden's view) dictatorships such as Saudi, Egypt, and Kuwait, the presence of Western troops on Islamic lands, etc, etc.
Bin Laden justified attacks on civilians by reason of the fact that we were a democracy; the people had elected the leaders responsible for these things.
 
Bikewer said:
Shortly after our start of hostilities in Afghanistan, Michael Sheuer, the chief CIA analyst in charge of the "Bin Laden Project" wrote a book taking the Bush administration to task for this assertion.
He pointed out that Al Qaeda didn't give a fig about our "freedoms" or lifestyle or any other such thing; they hated us because of our foreign policy.

Specifically, such things as our support for Israel, our support of anti-Islamic (in Bin Laden's view) dictatorships such as Saudi, Egypt, and Kuwait, the presence of Western troops on Islamic lands, etc, etc.
Bin Laden justified attacks on civilians by reason of the fact that we were a democracy; the people had elected the leaders responsible for these things.
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I think Micheal Sheuer is perhaps closer to the truth than Cheney.

That aside I am finding Cheney's behaviour to odious to say the least. He chose not to stand for public office. The incomming adminstration campaigned on the basis of change, and looking for new directions to solve issues affecting the US

Cheney's approach really does feel as though it is bordering of dictatorial. By constant critisim of the Obama admin, is Cheney really saying he disgrees with the decision made by the American people.

Cheney should take a leaf from George Bushs book. Retire form public life, keep your dignity and enjoy a well earned rest after 8 very difficult years in American histoy
 
MG1962 said:
Cheney's approach really does feel as though it is bordering of dictatorial. By constant critisim of the Obama admin, is Cheney really saying he disgrees with the decision made by the American people.
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Don't be absurd. Were the democrats being dictatorial by criticizing Bush? No, of course not. They were, and Cheney is, engaged in one of the most fundamental processes in any democracy: the open debate of ideas. If you want to argue that what Cheney is saying is wrong, go ahead and join in that debate by saying so. But really, the accusation that a man with no position in government is being in the least bit dictatorial by voicing his opinion is itself far more undemocratic than anything Cheney is saying.
 
is Chaney really saying he disgrees with the decision made by the American people.
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Well if he won't say it, I will

"I disagree with the decision of the American people" The Painter.

There I said it..

Now I will ask you a question. Did you disagree with the American people when Bush was elected? I seem to recall a lot of discussion about how stupid the American voters were for voting Bush into office. I even recall discussions about an intelligence test to be able to vote.

Cheney says Obama sucks and it is now unAmerican. You have now joined the dark side.
 
Ziggurat said:
Don't be absurd. Were the democrats being dictatorial by criticizing Bush? No, of course not. They were, and Cheney is, engaged in one of the most fundamental processes in any democracy: the open debate of ideas. If you want to argue that what Cheney is saying is wrong, go ahead and join in that debate by saying so. But really, the accusation that a man with no position in government is being in the least bit dictatorial by voicing his opinion is itself far more undemocratic than anything Cheney is saying.
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Please dont twist my words - I have no issue with Republicans giving it to the Democrats or visa versa- I do have an issue with an outgoing VP of any party laying into a new administration repeatedly within the first hundred days.

Part of every new adminstration - no matter the party, is cleaning up the mess and unfinished buisness of the previous adminstration. The nation does not reboot every 4 years in Jan
 
Bikewer said:
Shortly after our start of hostilities in Afghanistan, Michael Sheuer, the chief CIA analyst in charge of the "Bin Laden Project" wrote a book taking the Bush administration to task for this assertion.
He pointed out that Al Qaeda didn't give a fig about our "freedoms" or lifestyle or any other such thing; they hated us because of our foreign policy.
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Michael "I don't consider Osama bin Laden a terrorist. I consider him to be a resistance fighter," Sheuer? Michael "The truth of the matter is that it is all of the Democrats and the Republicans, except perhaps for Mr. Paul and Mr. Kucinich, who are marching to Osama Bin Laden's drum," Sheuer? Michael "The war in Iraq is the responsibility of the American fifth column that supports Israel," Sheuer?

This guy's got a bigger axe to grind than Paul Bunyan.
 
MG1962 said:
Please dont twist my words - I have no issue with Republicans giving it to the Democrats or visa versa- I do have an issue with an outgoing VP of any party laying into a new administration repeatedly within the first hundred days.
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Yet the argument you gave for why you found it objectionable was absurd, and I brought up democrats to demonstrate why it was absurd. I don't see that as having changed at all even with your current statement.
 
Brainster said:
Michael "I don't consider Osama bin Laden a terrorist. I consider him to be a resistance fighter," Sheuer? Michael "The truth of the matter is that it is all of the Democrats and the Republicans, except perhaps for Mr. Paul and Mr. Kucinich, who are marching to Osama Bin Laden's drum," Sheuer? Michael "The war in Iraq is the responsibility of the American fifth column that supports Israel," Sheuer?

This guy's got a bigger axe to grind than Paul Bunyan.
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I knew Scheuer had a weird anti-Israel fetish, but I wasn't aware that Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich were his favorite pols. I guess it's not too surprising, though, the nutters seem to attract each other.
 
Ziggurat said:
Yet the argument you gave for why you found it objectionable was absurd, and I brought up democrats to demonstrate why it was absurd. I don't see that as having changed at all even with your current statement.
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Because I only explicitly mentioned Cheney, you widened the scope of the comment so that it suited your arguement.
 
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