Chávez - Load up the rubber bullets.

[DC]

BTW: Though I love America I don't even claim that America is the best. It's great but I think the Scandinavian nations are doing a much better job than we are. I'm not against socialism.

This idea of hating America or any nation is a waste of your time. We have good points and bad points. And Chavez isn't a messiah. He's a human being and as subject to the corrupting influence of power as anyone.

sure he is a Human. and far away from a perfect human.
But until now, in contrary to most of our politicans, he fullilled what he promised, he does fight for his people.

but our media is presenting the guy as if he is the devil himself...

 

[RandFan]

yeah, sure its not important to take a closer look...

I never said I wouldn't take a closer look.

tell you what, the Venezuelans do remember.

Ok. I'm glad that Chavez has been able to give them a scape goat for their problems. When things go bad just hate America. You don't need to take responsibility. Just hate America.

I'm here for you dude. Let me absorb all of that hate.

 

[RandFan]

But until now, in contrary to most of our politicans, he fullilled what he promised, he does fight for his people.

Sounds like Mao. He sincerly fought for the Chinese.

but our media is presenting the guy as if he is the devil himself...

Like I said, hate America. Don't take responsibility. It's Bush's fault. And soon it will be Obama's fault.

 

[DC]

People in the US are not inherently better or worse than anyone else.

At least we have freedom of the press.

Actually I do. That's why I read a wide variety of sources.

If you are going to sit there and say that America is always bad and always wrong and always biased then you just look like brainwashed leftist stooge. Unlike you I can give both credit and criticism to both Chavez and America.

I've no blind faith.

freedom of press is also in Venezuela FFS.

the TV station was not closed, the licence for terrestrial transmittion was not renewed. because they wanted to launch a new National TV station. and still the provate owned media is overwhelming.
and day in and out they spread anti chavez propaganda.

Most of the TCTV Costumers are cable customers anyway, and there the very same channel is still avaible, with the same old propaganda.

 

[DC]

Sounds like Mao. He sincerly fought for the Chinese.

Like I said, hate America. Don't take responsibility. It's Bush's fault. And soon it will be Obama's fault.

oh yeah, quickly OT, bring up Mao......

yeah sure, now its all the fault of the Venezuelans, the US governmnet try to overtrow theyr government, but hey, dont blame the US.......

open your eyes man...........

you just dont like the direction the Venezuelan people head to.....

 

[RandFan]

...because they wanted to launch a new National TV station. and still the provate owned media is overwhelming.

And conveniently get rid of the opposition. It's a smart move for a political leader.

 

[DC]

I never said I wouldn't take a closer look.

Ok. I'm glad that Chavez has been able to give them a scape goat for their problems. When things go bad just hate America. You don't need to take responsibility. Just hate America.

I'm here for you dude. Let me absorb all of that hate.

are you really that dumb?

oh dear.

scapegoat?

YOUR GOVERNMENT TRYED TO OVERTHROW THEIR ELECTED GOVERNMENT.

but hey its theyr own fault....

laughable Randfan, just laughable....

when will you wake up?

when will you realise why Venezuela is making it far more often into the news, like the North Korans for example?

why dont you demand from your government that they take care aout North Koreas "Democracy"`? why Venezuela? why is it so important?

because they are the country with most oil reserves in the world......

wake up or atleast admit that you give a crap about Venezuelans and you have a right to get your oil to your conditions, and not the Venezuelans conditions....

 

[RandFan]

...bring up Mao...

Not OT. It demonstrates that fighting for your people isn't enough.

yeah sure, now its all the fault of the Venezuelans, the US governmnet try to overtrow theyr government, but hey, dont blame the US.......

No, I agree. Everything is America's fault. Blame the US. That's what I'm saying. Why take responsibility when you can blame someone else?

open your eyes man...........

YES SIR! Eyes front and center. Check. It's America's fault. Check.

you just dont like the direction the Venezuelan people head to.....

Right. Like it's really important to me that the Venezuaelans do poorly.

 

[DC]

And conveniently get rid of the opposition. It's a smart move for a political leader.

you are so clueless LOL.

he didnt get rid of them. not even of RCTV, and RCTV was sure not the only anti chavez channel.........

and RCTV is still on cable, where most of their clients are ffs.

 

[DC]

Not OT. It demonstrates that fighting for your people isn't enough.

No, I agree. Everything is America's fault. Blame the US. That's what I'm saying. Why take responsibility when you can blame someone else?

YES SIR! Eyes front and center. Check. It's America's fault. Check.

Right. Like it's really important to me that the Venezuaelans do poorly.

yeah close the eyes........

its never the US fault especially not when they overtrow elected governments.

but hey, you cant remember, so it cant be the US fault.....

 

[RandFan]

scapegoat?

Hey, it works for a lot of countries and seems to have you enthraled, so yeah.

why Venezuela? why is it so important?

Oh yeah, it's sooooo important. Oh my is it important.

...admit that you give a crap about Venezuelans...

You will believe whatever you want regardless of what I tell you so does it matter? Isn't your mind allready made up?

 

[DC]

you deny to be Ignorant.
But you didnt even take the time, to read if your government was indeed involved in that coup.
you are scared of the truth, because you know, it is very possible its true. so best dont look into it, so you can easy say, i dont know......

 

[RandFan]

yeah close the eyes........

Would you make up your mind? First it's open then it's closed.

its never the US fault especially not when they overtrow elected governments.

2002. Assuming we did what does that have to do with 2009? Don't you need to take some responsibility at some point?

but hey, you cant remember, so it cant be the US fault.....

Nice strawman.

 

[DC]

Hey, it works for a lot of countries and seems to have you enthraled, so yeah.

Oh yeah, it's sooooo important. Oh my is it important.

You will believe whatever you want regardless of what I tell you so does it matter? Isn't your mind allready made up?

scapegoats work for you aswel.

the US media and government is presenting you a scapegoat, a bolivarian scapegoat, aka Chavez.

but atleast you realise when a foreign government is using scapegoats

yea your for sure are not ognorant, aint it?

 

[RandFan]

But you didnt even take the time, to read if your government was indeed involved in that coup.

Oh for crying in the dark. There are hundreds of nations around the world. Why do you think Venezuala is my number one concern?

you are scared of the truth, because you know, it is very possible its true. so best dont look into it, so you can easy say, i dont know......

Oh, I'm sooooo scared. Imagine if I find out my country did something bad..... lions and tigers and bears, oh my.

It may very well be true. I'm happy to look at the evidence. Browbeating me is a waste of your time. I was allways happy to look at it. Just like I was happy to look at the 9/11 truth movement and many other issues.

 

[RandFan]

the US media and government is presenting you a scapegoat, a bolivarian scapegoat, aka Chavez.

Oh yeah, it's front page stuff here by golly. Every day all day, Chavez, Chavez, Chavez. Right.

You flatter yourself. NK and Cuba are far better boogey men than Chavez. He's rather silly actually.

but atleast you realise when a foreign government is using scapegoats

And we blamed our problems on Chavez when?

 

[DC]

Would you make up your mind? First it's open then it's closed.

2002. Assuming we did what does that have to do with 2009? Don't you need to take some responsibility at some point?

Nice strawman.

2009?
your government is doing the same thing they did in 2002.
But alsong your mainstream media is not presenting the story to you, it is not happening. we will see in a few weeks.

 

[WildCat]

INform yourself ffs, yes that is what happened.

the UBL speaches are not shown without consultation to the CIA or FBI.
moslty the UBL tapes are shown only partial.
And especially would an US tv station not conspire with UBL and spread lies and present the Jihad UBL transition government of unelected jihadists.

OBL speeches do not need any kind of permission from the CIA, FBI, or any other government agency to be broadcast. And how much the stations broadcast are entirely up to the stations themselves.

And I haven't seen you post anything showing that the Venezuelan station in question had anything to do with planning the coup, or carrying it out.

 

[DC]

Oh for crying in the dark. There are hundreds of nations around the world. Why do you think Venezuala is my number one concern?

Oh, I'm sooooo scared. Imagine if I find out my country did something bad..... lions and tigers and bears, oh my.

It may very well be true. I'm happy to look at the evidence. Browbeating me is a waste of your time. I was allways happy to look at it. Just like I was happy to look at the 9/11 truth movement and many other issues.

oh, and why did you never look into it?

because you are lookng for scapegoats?

 

[WildCat]

scapegoats work for you aswel.

the US media and government is presenting you a scapegoat, a bolivarian scapegoat, aka Chavez.

but atleast you realise when a foreign government is using scapegoats

yea your for sure are not ognorant, aint it?

The US government actually says very little about Chavez. He's barely on the radar, though Hugo desperately wishes he was Public Enemy #1 here.