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Split Thread Charlie Kirk conspiracy theories

I haven't heard this actually pedaled but heard folks talk about how crazy it is, "Mossad killed him because he'd recently become slightly less Zionist."
 
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bad CT.
a Mossad False Flag would be far more believable since it wouldn't be the first time, and Kirk would be a decent target for that.
Of course, that's not what happened (or did it? no, no it did not).
 
Candace Owens in a YouTube short: "Allegedly, allegedly, allegedly ..."
I spoke to the Family of Tyler Robinson's Boyfriend (@realcandace on YouTube, Sep 17, 2025 - 2:57 min.)
There was some unusual traffic, a lot of cars that were seen outside leading up to the shooting in the days before the shooting (...) If I don't feel good about what we're hearing, okay, and Lance Twig's family doesn't feel good about what we're hearing, there's more people involved.
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She is just sooo disappointed that no Antifa paraphernalia was found at the crime scene that she can't live with it.
 
Beelzebuddy said:
It was a CIA operation with three aims: to distract America from the Epstein Files, to cover up a glaring error in their latest face-shrinking technology, and to give FBI director Kash Patel a softball win because the dude clearly needs it, he's got resting regret face. Although Kash initially failed to find a skinny white dude in Utah, his crack team of agents did pull off the clever investigatory stratagem of sit around and wait for the suspect's dad to turn him in.
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You don't appreciate the genius of Patel!
Tyler Robinson's father turned him in after only two (!) days, whereas it took police a five (!) days to arrest Mangione!
That proves that Patel's FBI is much more efficient than Sleepy Joe's FBI! (That's actually what he's claiming.)
 
The old man that distracted the police is really going to feed the conspiracy theories. At the very least folks are going to insist he had to be in on it from the start.
 
Rolfe said:
For my sins, I follow a few people on Twitter who are keen on conspiracy theories. I just saw these two.
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I was about to say you must have committed some really deadly sins, until I remembered some of the people we deal with around here. :oops:

Rolfe said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1968415728802976128
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First, 1141 x 0.08 = 90, and 1141 x .14 = 160. CT math. :rolleyes:

Second, assuming the scale is accurate, it clearly shows a delay slightly in excess of 0.2 seconds, so I'm not sure where "Smartski" came up with 0.14 as the longest interval, unless he thinks you're supposed to measure the time between the end of the sonic crack and start of the explosive report. :faint:

Third, he doesn't say (and may not know) where the other recording devices were located with respect to the known position of the victim and the suspected position of the shooter.

Finally, and crucially, he makes a fatal assumption; he assumes there was no delay between the time the bullet left the muzzle and the time the sonic crack reached the recording devices. Standard .30-06 ammunition has a muzzle velocity between 2400 and 3000 feet per second (fps), or a little over twice the speed of sound. This would have dropped off by maybe 150 fps by the time the round struck Kirk. So we'll assume an average velocity of 2600 fps. I could use a more accurate speed of sound based on local conditions (Orem is 4400 ft above mean sea level), but there's no point, as we're estimating the muzzle velocity.

Video evidence indicates the shooter was about 425 ft from Kirk. So, we would expect that the sonic crack from the bullet would have been picked up by the mic labeled "right rear of tent" starting about 425 ft/2600 ft/sec, or about .16 sec after the bullet left the muzzle. There would be an additional small delay due to the fact that the microphone wasn't directly on the bullet's path; about 0.01 sec for every 10 ft. But we would expect the explosive report to be detected about 425 ft/(1141 ft/sec), or about .37 sec after the bullet left the muzzle, and that sound wave would travel directly to the microphone. .37 sec - .16 sec = .21 sec, approximately what's shown on the graphs.

Obviously, I've made some assumptions here, but the point, of course, is that the delay is perfectly reasonable and not at all suspicious.

Are you able to post responses to this guy?

Rolfe said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1968414149123211768
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As everyone here is probably aware, there would have been a mandatory autopsy for any murder victim. As everyone is probably also aware (but CTs love to complain about), evidence such as autopsy reports is frequently sealed until after the conclusion of a trial (and sometimes the appeals process), in order to avoid prejudicing potential jurors. That also assumes it's even allowed to be released at all under Utah law.

You already posted some footage that was taken from fairly close, so apparently this person doesn't know where to look.

As for building on the site, Utah Valley University is a public university, and the state legislature will undoubtedly appropriate funds to erect some sort of memorial on the spot, so that's a particularly stupid point. :rolleyes:
 
SpitfireIX said:
I was about to say you must have committed some really deadly sins, until I remembered some of the people we deal with around here. :oops:


First, 1141 x 0.08 = 90, and 1141 x .14 = 160. CT math. :rolleyes:

Second, assuming the scale is accurate, it clearly shows a delay slightly in excess of 0.2 seconds, so I'm not sure where "Smartski" came up with 0.14 as the longest interval, unless he thinks you're supposed to measure the time between the end of the sonic crack and start of the explosive report. :faint:

Third, he doesn't say (and may not know) where the other recording devices were located with respect to the known position of the victim and the suspected position of the shooter.

Finally, and crucially, he makes a fatal assumption; he assumes there was no delay between the time the bullet left the muzzle and the time the sonic crack reached the recording devices. Standard .30-06 ammunition has a muzzle velocity between 2400 and 3000 feet per second (fps), or a little over twice the speed of sound. This would have dropped off by maybe 150 fps by the time the round struck Kirk. So we'll assume an average velocity of 2600 fps. I could use a more accurate speed of sound based on local conditions (Orem is 4400 ft above mean sea level), but there's no point, as we're estimating the muzzle velocity.

Video evidence indicates the shooter was about 425 ft from Kirk. So, we would expect that the sonic crack from the bullet would have been picked up by the mic labeled "right rear of tent" starting about 425 ft/2600 ft/sec, or about .16 sec after the bullet left the muzzle. There would be an additional small delay due to the fact that the microphone wasn't directly on the bullet's path; about 0.01 sec for every 10 ft. But we would expect the explosive report to be detected about 425 ft/(1141 ft/sec), or about .37 sec after the bullet left the muzzle, and that sound wave would travel directly to the microphone. .37 sec - .16 sec = .21 sec, approximately what's shown on the graphs.

Obviously, I've made some assumptions here, but the point, of course, is that the delay is perfectly reasonable and not at all suspicious.

Are you able to post responses to this guy?


As everyone here is probably aware, there would have been a mandatory autopsy for any murder victim. As everyone is probably also aware (but CTs love to complain about), evidence such as autopsy reports is frequently sealed until after the conclusion of a trial (and sometimes the appeals process), in order to avoid prejudicing potential jurors. That also assumes it's even allowed to be released at all under Utah law.

You already posted some footage that was taken from fairly close, so apparently this person doesn't know where to look.

As for building on the site, Utah Valley University is a public university, and the state legislature will undoubtedly appropriate funds to erect some sort of memorial on the spot, so that's a particularly stupid point. :rolleyes:
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I am not going within 100 miles of these nutters. I saw the tweets because someone I follow who is a bit on the credulous side shall we say retweeted them, that's all.

I saw the video of the bullet hitting Kirk. You can't fake that. His intra-cranial blood pressure would have dropped like a stone and he'd have been unconscious before he hit the ground.
 
ahhell said:
The old man that distracted the police is really going to feed the conspiracy theories. At the very least folks are going to insist he had to be in on it from the start.
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The first day the CTists said the old guy was also a witness to the World Trade Center on 9-11, so obviously Mossad.
 
I've seen one abut the convo with the roommate .. how convenient it is. Confessing. Explaining the motive. Describing the rifle. Where it was left and how it was hidden. Leaving no doubt, no question unanswered.
 
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