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Challenge to William Rodriguez

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Here is my offer to William Rodriguez:

I host a NYC cable show called 'Hardfire.' In the last few months, we have featured spirited debates on the controversies surrounding the jihadist attacks of 9/11/01. Les Jamieson, Jim Fetzer, and two of the Loose Change boys have made the case for the conspiracists.

William Rodriguez is cordially invited to appear on either one or two half-hour shows. He can engage Mark Roberts, debunker extraordinaire, in debate or simply be interviewed by me.

Ronald Wieck
 
Beware the backlash of interrogating a survivor of the attacks...kid gloves recomended.

TAM:)
 
Why? It's not like we're going to be accusing him of being complicit to mass murder.

Yes but the twoofers wait like salivating dogs for any opportunity to make the JREFers and Debunkers look bad, and giving a survivor a hard time would give them alot of ammo.

TAM:)
 
Yes but the twoofers wait like salivating dogs for any opportunity to make the JREFers and Debunkers look bad, and giving a survivor a hard time would give them alot of ammo.

TAM:)
i think a debate would be wrong but an interview with Ron is not wrong. If anybody wants to try and spin that as "evil" let them but the truth is obvious...
 
Yes but the twoofers wait like salivating dogs for any opportunity to make the JREFers and Debunkers look bad, and giving a survivor a hard time would give them alot of ammo.

TAM:)


They will accuse us of doing things we haven't done no matter how much we try to avoid it, it's what they do.
 
Willy Rodriguez is making extraordinary claims. His claims therefore justify extraordinairy questions. Ask questions...demand answers..isn't that what Dylan says?
 
Willy Rodriguez is making extraordinary claims. His claims therefore justify extraordinairy questions. Ask questions...demand answers..isn't that what Dylan says?
I'm not too sure his claims really are anything extraodinary. The spin from some of the woo makes it seem that way but an honest interview WITHOUT leading questions (eliminates all the woo) may tell a story radically different from what we have been told by the truth movement.
 
All I want to know is: how does he know the explosion he felt was BEFORE the plane hit...and not AFTER? He didnt see the plane hit..so there is no way he could tell which came first.
 
I aint saying dont interview da guy....I is just sayin be nice about it...kid gloves man.

TAM:)
 
I aint saying dont interview da guy....I is just sayin be nice about it...kid gloves man.

TAM:)
Glad you agreed before I had to pull out my gangsta gun...

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He is the fiddycent of the feline world...or as we know him...

9Lives.

TAM:)
 
In the previous debates Mark and Ron have been far nicer to the twoofers than they deserve, I don't see any need for a change in tact.
 
Hmm what a surprise. I just nicely sent you an email agreeing to do your show without knowing you were challenging me in this forum. Very surprised you went this route. So my offer know is off. For the record, like I said on the e-mail, I happen to like Mr Roberts and remeber meeting him on Ground Zero. Very cordial. also after checking in my past list of media contacts, I found that I sent you an email long time ago when you had Les Jamieson on your show because you lied on the air saying that I did not go to the NIST because all I wanted was money. Wrong approach buddy.



to Ronald Wieck <ronniejames@att.net>
date Apr 29, 2007 4:23 PM
subject Re: Hardfire Appearance
mailed-by gmail.com

Hi, thanks for the invitation. I will love to appear and since my actual agenda is full, I will find a date in the coming weeks to help you. I like Mr. Mark Roberts very much and agree with him in many aspects. It will be a humble honor to have a dialogue with him. what number my organizer should call you at?
William Rodriguez
 
I received an acceptance from Mr. Rodriguez followed, twenty minutes later, by a withdrawal. Obviously, such behavior is pretty routine for twoofers. If you're being asked to defend pernicious falsehoods and bogus science, the prudent course is to avoid anyone likely to ask hard questions. There really was no necessity for anyone to request polite treatment for Rodriguez. My policy is never to attempt to humiliate anyone on the show.

Here is Rodriguez's second e-mail:

"Very surprised of your lack of proffesionalism. I saw your "challenge" on JREF and was indeed surprised after I agreed to appear on your show. I have reached more than 500 million viewers around the world and have been in shows of all kinds but never was actually challenged on an open forum to do YOU a favor. I do not have the time and stamina for this kind of actions. Thanks for your offer and I hope you find others to do your show. "

William Rodriguez


Here is my reply:

Dear Mr. Rodriguez,

As I don't know you, I'll play along and proceed on the assumption that your acceptance was genuine. It is my policy to announce invitations to prospective guests/debaters on the JREF. To heighten interest, I bill these offers as "challenges." It hasn't occurred to anyone, until now, to act offended. What the nature of the offense might be is, of course, impossible to guess.

How gracious of you to do me a favor, if only for twenty minutes! I was under the impression that I was doing one for you. Possibly we could both use some lessons in humility.

You may have noticed that Jim Fetzer showed the courage of his convictions by coming in and defending his views. Many 9/11 conspiracists feign interest only to vanish without further notice, a la Webster Tarpley, or, as in Jim Hoffman's case, they schedule their appearance only to duck out at the last minute. Now, we are supposed to believe that you, for obscure reasons, were so offended by the public announcement of my invitation to you that you just couldn't possibly bear to go on. Uh-huh. Sure. Makes perfect sense.

Apparently, it strikes you as unusual that I would want to advertise my show to its biggest audience. Yeah, that must be it. So, presumably now the playbook calls for you to notify the fantasist community that you bravely accepted my offer, but withdrew twenty minutes later over my lack of "professionalism" in announcing it on the site where I announce ALL my invitations.

Look at the bright side. You're dealing with twoofers: They swallow sillier stuff than that.

Ron Wieck


Now, I'd bet heavily that Rodriguez had no intention of appearing on 'Hardfire.' The "lie" he accuses me of telling during my debate with Les Jamieson is, typically, no lie at all. I had asked Mike Newman of NIST about William Rodriguez. Newman replied that NIST was eager to talk with him, but he proved extremely elusive. He seemed far more interested in grandstanding at hearings than in actually sharing information. According to Newman, Rodriguez had changed his address and refused to respond to NIST's inquiries. If Newman had got anything wrong, Rodriguez had the perfect opportunity to set the record straight. He prefers to act offended over something that is a bit too cryptic to describe in words.

So, can we simply write off William Rodriguez as just another fraud? He will preach to the uncritical choir, but when an opportunity arises to make his case, he conjures up an escape route.
 
Hi Ron,

Forget Rodriguez. Interview members of the FDNY, NYPD and PAPD.
 

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