Cern and String Theory

[Answer]

Answer,



First of all, I am not a Professor. I am what is known in academia as a Post-Doc. As to your question, it is far to vague for me to answer in a meaningful way.

.. in other words, despite years of learning, you don't even understand your own field of study ..

Well, there's your first mistake. There aren't many sheep around here. Like I said, there are several physicists on this board, and many other people who know more than enough about QM to recognize your blather for the nonsense it is.

is that right! feel free to point out the flaws in my "nonsense".

I don't know whether it is or not. All I know is that if it is deterministic, then it must also be non-local.

ding ding! we have a winner!

First of all, I don't have any idea what "quantum consciousness" means. Second, wavefunction collapse is not a physical event. The wavefunction is an abstract mathematical tool for predicting probabilities of events occurring. Your question presupposes the metaphysical claim that the wavefunction directly represents whatever the true "ontological existent" is. This may or may not be true. Since it is a metaphysical, rather than a scientific claim, I am not going to waste my time speculating about it.


Dr. Stupid

ah, so you are going to run away instead of admit your ignorance, eh?

you don't even understand the implications of violation of Bell's inequality! and you are a physics major! there is no "if it is deterministic" .. YOUR AREA OF STUDY HAS ALREADY PROVEN THAT IT IS!

absolutely mind blowing, physics majors don't even understand physics.

 

[sorgoth]

Anyway, just in case there are people wondering what the hell we're talking about and want a basic grasp of string theory (in entertaining format, nonetheless!), go see The Elegant Universe


If you just want to watch, go to "Watch the Program".

It's three shows, an hour long each, divided into 8 chapters each.

VERY interesting, even to a layman.

 

[LucyR]

Answer,

Do you have a publication record? How many times have you been cited in the scientific literature?

Why can't you write properly?

 

[espritch]

heh! credentials as meaningless as your holographic prison.

So credentials are meaningless. I guess we are supposed to take your ideas seriously because you have no credentials? Or are the insults and ALL UPPER CASE PROCLAMATIONS supposed to sway us?

Honestly, I think you need to start taking your meds again. You're starting to babble incoherently.

 

[Answer]

Answer,

Do you have a publication record? How many times have you been cited in the scientific literature?

Why can't you write properly?

educated-stupidity is not a goal to reach, it is a hole to fall into. does being educacted-stupid allow mr. physicist to prove me wrong? nope, he doesn't even understand his own *ology.

 

[Stimpson J. Cat]

Answer,

First of all, I am not a Professor. I am what is known in academia as a Post-Doc. As to your question, it is far to vague for me to answer in a meaningful way.
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.. in other words, despite years of learning, you don't even understand your own field of study ..

Or alternatively, you don't understand it well enough to be able to formulate your question in a meaningful way.

First of all, I don't have any idea what "quantum consciousness" means. Second, wavefunction collapse is not a physical event. The wavefunction is an abstract mathematical tool for predicting probabilities of events occurring. Your question presupposes the metaphysical claim that the wavefunction directly represents whatever the true "ontological existent" is. This may or may not be true. Since it is a metaphysical, rather than a scientific claim, I am not going to waste my time speculating about it.


Dr. Stupid
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ah, so you are going to run away instead of admit your ignorance, eh?

What are you talking about? I can only guess that you have failed to understand my above statement, because your response makes absolutely no sense.

you don't even understand the implications of violation of Bell's inequality! and you are a physics major! there is no "if it is deterministic" .. YOUR AREA OF STUDY HAS ALREADY PROVEN THAT IT IS!

No, it hasn't. Bell's inequalities imply exactly what I said, that if reality is deterministic, then it is non-local. They do not in any way imply that reality is deterministic. This simply is not known.

absolutely mind blowing, physics majors don't even understand physics.

What is mind-blowing is that somebody who has not studied the subject would be so presumptuous as to claim that the reason that people who have studied the subject disagree with him, is because they don't understand it. Your ignorance seems to be exceeded only by your arrogance.


Dr. Stupid

 

[Answer]

So credentials are meaningless. I guess we are supposed to take your ideas seriously because you have no credentials? Or are the insults and ALL UPPER CASE PROCLAMATIONS supposed to sway us?

Honestly, I think you need to start taking your meds again. You're starting to babble incoherently.

the skeptics began the insults, not i. skepticalsciencesuperioritism or whatever that Genius towel dude was talking about, idiots.

let mr. Physicist defend himself, sheeple. you are filling the thread with that which does not apply. of course, he'll likely run away instead of admit his lack of understanding.

 

[Answer]

Answer,



No, it hasn't. Bell's inequalities imply exactly what I said, that if reality is deterministic, then it is non-local. They do not in any way imply that reality is deterministic. This simply is not known.

Dr. Stupid

VIOLATION of Bell's inequality! READ, PROFESSOR! how do you think we all know green is green? QUANTUM CONSCIOUSNESS, that's how.

 

[LucyR]

how do know he's not a PROFESSOR?! READ, ANSWER because he told us he a POSTDOC, that's how

 

[Answer]

how do know he's not a PROFESSOR?! READ, ANSWER because he told us he a POSTDOC, that's how

educated-idiot, i am not attached to your pedantic-illusion.. he is anything i want him to be.

 

[geni]

educated-idiot, i am not attached to your pedantic-illusion.. he is anything i want him to be.

But by this logic you are anything I want you to be. I want you to be not posting.

 

[Stimpson J. Cat]

Answer,

No, it hasn't. Bell's inequalities imply exactly what I said, that if reality is deterministic, then it is non-local. They do not in any way imply that reality is deterministic. This simply is not known.

Dr. Stupid
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VIOLATION of Bell's inequality! READ, PROFESSOR!

That's cute, you telling me to read. Don't worry, I am quite aware that Bell's inequalities would hold in the case of local determinism, and that it is the experimental violation of those inequalities that indicates that if reality is deterministic it must be non-local. Unfortunately, you do not seem to be aware of this. If you were, you would not be claiming that they somehow prove that reality is deterministic.

how do you think we all know green is green? QUANTUM CONSCIOUSNESS, that's how.

Evidence please? Or are we just supposed to take you uneducated word for it?

You can start by defining Quantum Consciousness, and then presenting your evidence for its existence.

Or you can just admit that you are completely full of crap, and quit bothering us.


Dr. Stupid

 

[Yahweh]

VIOLATION of Bell's inequality! READ, PROFESSOR! how do you think we all know green is green? QUANTUM CONSCIOUSNESS, that's how.

How does the fact that we all know green is green (which is INCORRECT because colorblind people and animals have no concept of the sensation of green) logically imply quantum consciousness?

 

[Answer]

But by this logic you are anything I want you to be. I want you to be not posting.

it's a good thing i am all and nothing.

now, PROFESSOR..

use the knowledge the study of physics gave you. a wave of light has no color until it collides with matter. i am standing in the left corner of my room and my best friend is at the doorway; in the middle is a GREEN globe.. HOW IS IT POSSIBLE FOR THE GLOBE TO BE GREEN IF WE ARE SEPARATE ENTITIES?

 

[sorgoth]

Look, I doubt even HE belives what he's saying.
Everything is because we want it to be?

Maybe he's actually look for an answer behind all that incoherent nonsense.

Or maybe he's just trolling us. Who knows?

 

[Answer]

Answer,



That's cute, you telling me to read. Don't worry, I am quite aware that Bell's inequalities would hold in the case of local determinism, and that it is the experimental violation of those inequalities that indicates that if reality is deterministic it must be non-local. Unfortunately, you do not seem to be aware of this. If you were, you would not be claiming that they somehow prove that reality is deterministic.



Evidence please? Or are we just supposed to take you uneducated word for it?

You can start by defining Quantum Consciousness, and then presenting your evidence for its existence.

Or you can just admit that you are completely full of crap, and quit bothering us.


Dr. Stupid

you fear g0d, i've explained myself a trillion times. you take what you learn and discard it so that it fits into your skeptical little world; you like to control but you don't realize that you can only control yourself.

 

[LucyR]

Re: Re: Re: Cern and String Theory

What relevance (if any) does reported experimental evidence for nuclear supersymmetry (Phys. Rev. Lett. 83 1542) have to this discussion?

I quote myself since I think my little question got lost in amongst all the high-brow interchanges.

 

[Yahweh]

all is lost on the educated-idiots. you want to know how many dimensions there are? AS MANY AS YOU IMAGINE THERE TO BE. ALL THEORIES ARE CORRECT.

How about mutually imcompatible theories?

Or perhaps theories absent of logical coherency?


I feel a desire to play, and a desire to increase my desperately low post-count... initiating "Insane Yahweh" in 5...4...3...2...1...

[BIG GRIN}

 

[Answer]

it's a good thing i am all and nothing.

now, PROFESSOR..

use the knowledge the study of physics gave you. a wave of light has no color until it collides with matter. i am standing in the left corner of my room and my best friend is at the doorway; in the middle is a GREEN globe.. HOW IS IT POSSIBLE FOR THE GLOBE TO BE GREEN IF WE ARE SEPARATE ENTITIES?

answer, mr physicst.

 

[Yahweh]

haha.. it is truly going to be a good day when the Skeptics are proven to be EDUCATED-IDIOTS.. every comment the word-fools make adds on to the hilarity.

ALL of them are IDIOTS, but you are confused, mr. answer, you ARE ONE OF THEM@!

The things you've already written only add to insults to your own self, salvage your integrity and do not say such stupid things. I do not have as much formal education as the rest of these folks, however I know idiocy when I see it. You are spewing idiocy.