Can Water Quality Effect?

[Donks]

Why, people, why? That's all I'm going to put out there for you...

WHY?!?!?

You know who you are, and you know what I'm talking about. Just answer - why? WHY do you need to continue to feed Kumarbotâ„¢?

-TT

P.S. I only read the title of this thread. Nothing else. I'm replying out of principle. Nothing more.

I guess I'm not as principled as you

 

[Dr. Imago]

I guess I'm not as principled as you

-TT

 

[Kumar]

Why, people, why? That's all I'm going to put out there for you...

WHY?!?!?

You know who you are, and you know what I'm talking about. Just answer - why? WHY do you need to continue to feed Kumarbotâ„¢?

-TT

P.S. I only read the title of this thread. Nothing else. I'm replying out of principle. Nothing more.

Because others can't accept comments of a person who just read title of threads & take decisions. Sorry TT, people here agree on to, nothing is "absolute" in science, so I say all of its mentioning are open to doubt, dynamic/different thinking, own understandings per available medical informations to save to self etc.

Standing on a sand mountain may not be so safe.

Common people just re-read alike computer but few just re-think alike humans--is the only difference & reason, why people are attracted towards me.

Be productive dynamically as things are not "absolute" with you. Routine things are available in tons on internet/referances. Most of really respected/known people in history are those, who thought dynamically/differently--not the computer type.

Can you give your achievements which you have added to the science?????????

 

[Donks]

Because others can't accept comments of a person who just read title of threads & take decisions.

Who says they (or we, as I'm part of "others") can't? Don't put words in other people's mouths.

Sorry TT, people here agree on to, nothing is "absolute" in science

You said "absolute," which means this paragraph is about to devolve into claptrap.

so I say all of its mentioning are open to doubt, dynamic/different thinking, own understandings per available medical informations to save to self etc.

There we go. Claptrap.

Standing on a sand mountain may not be so safe.

Randi has a much better analogy than yours. Let's see if you can figure out in which road homeopathy is (from the commentary archives):

Let me illustrate for you, as I frequently do for my lecture audiences, how I see that lack of supporting structure. Suppose we adopt, as a time-line, the image of a road coming from over the horizon behind us, and pointing straight ahead. This is our progress in science, bordered on each side by structures representing the significant events and discoveries that have been made in science. Looking over our shoulders, we can see, just a bit back on the road, a building that represents Digital Technology; workers are scrambling over the very substantial structure, adding to it and refining its parameters, while traffic in and out is unimpeded. Just a bit farther back, the Quantum Physics building looms, rather dark and mysterious, but prominent and stable. Much further back, we can see the Newton block, well-lit and landscaped. Well out of our sight but well-tended and firmly founded, is the Galileo edifice. All of that leads up to the roadway on which we stand, which, as with other edifices back there like the General Relativity bunker, is constantly being patched, repaired, and maintained by an ever-busy crew.

On each side of the firm, level, road, at the spot we find ourselves occupying right now on our journey, construction is under way on a beautiful but strangely-shaped shop humming away with occupants poring over weird diagrams. That's the Human Genome square. Adjacent is the busy Hubble quarter, processing endless images to discover secrets of great portent. Just ahead, the Nanotechnology Center is taking form on its foundation, slowly but confidently. And other fuzzy, poorly-defined but substantial excavations amid stacks of construction materials are to be seen in tantalizing profusion. The structures behind are firm and well-maintained; they support what we presently experience and are subject to change and the admission of more and better data.

Contrast this with the equivalent symbolic road that serves Parapsychology. On this rather winding and narrow road, pitted with potholes and poorly paved, we see next to us brave structures like Meta-Analysis and Gut Feelings, hastily assembled from scraps and with no foundations, rather sagging and in imminent danger of collapse. Behind the traveler on this road there are no structures still standing; only the tumbled ruins and smoking, burned-out frames of discredited and abandoned theories and paradigms can be seen. Just visible, far back, is the Fox Sisters mansion, deserted and moldering away. That's the Geller structure just a bit back there, built out of bent spoons; a light is on in one window, but it flickers. And ahead of us on this muddy road we discern only darkness, cold, and dense fog. The road dips away steeply and it has a bumpy, slippery, surface. No foundations are being prepared, only a few brave souls are seated drafting building plans at the roadside, and they mumble and fret as their main occupation. We note that baskets of rose-colored glasses are offered for the use of the travelers...

Common people just re-read alike computer but few just re-think alike humans--is the only difference & reason, why people are attracted towards me.

Let me guess, you're one of the "uncommon people."
Kumar, I can think of many reasons why I reply to you. Your ability to reason is not one of them.

Be productive dynamically as things are not "absolute" with you.

Stop asking people to "be productive." You have never been productive yourself.

Routine things are available in tons on internet/referances.

You might be shocked to learn that the Internet does not yet contain all of the world's knowledge. And you mght also be surprised to learn that in Medical school they learn more than a few things that you would have a hard time finding out on the web, even if you actually tried learning for once.

Most of really respected/known people in history are those, who thought dynamically/differently--not the computer type.

You have delusions of grandeur only surpassed on this forum by lifegazer's.

Can you give your achievements which you have added to the science?????????

How about you, what have you added to science?

 

[Kumar]

Who says they (or we, as I'm part of "others") can't? Don't put words in other people's mouths.

Ok, do you accept words of that person who just read title of post & comments?

You said "absolute," which means this paragraph is about to devolve into claptrap.

There we go. Claptrap.

??


Let's see if you can figure out in which road homeopathy is ):

Other system is also progressive & florishing, they can also show there progress, mass people acceptances etc. Whether they use costructed strucure'd road or nature's walk, is to be seen in sense of real health/progress/nature's balance.


Let me guess, you're one of the "uncommon people."
Kumar, I can think of many reasons why I reply to you. Your ability to reason is not one of them.

Whatever may be the reason, still people are attraced towords dynamism--not towords still things.

Stop asking people to "be productive." You have never been productive yourself.

If I am not in your views, still people can be. Stop collecting cloured stones in jungle can't be considered as productive/ dynamism.

You might be shocked to learn that the Internet does not yet contain all of the world's knowledge. And you mght also be surprised to learn that in Medical school they learn more than a few things that you would have a hard time finding out on the web, even if you actually tried learning for once.

Yes can be, because science is not absolute & internet is also one gift/curse of science. Therefore, I put things here for your check/views to cross check.

You have delusions of grandeur only surpassed on this forum by lifegazer's.

Pls try to understand your position in view of 'nothing is absolute'.

How about you, what have you added to science?

I am trying to sort out/think about 'can be absolute', 'can be dynamic', 'can be real', 'can be doubtful', 'can be beneficials', can be crudes+potencies, 'can be photograh type effect'..... unlimited aspects. Moreover, you indicate that you are science or pro-science people, so first, it is your duty to add to it.

 

[Donks]

Ok, do you accept words of that person who just read title of post & comments?

Depends on the words.

??

Every time you say "absolute" whatever follows is meaningless drivel.

Other system is also progressive & florishing, they can also show there progress, mass people acceptances etc.

Must be those rose-colored glasses Randi was talking about. Homeopathy hasn't changed in 200 years. What progress?

Whether they use costructed strucure'd road or nature's walk, is to be seen in sense of real health/progress/nature's balance.

Ahhh, the other indicator of meaningless drivel, "nature's balance." So not only can you not construct a proper analogy, you can't understand one either. Read again what Randi said.

Whatever may be the reason, still people are attraced towords dynamism--not towords still things.

Wo, the irony is getting thick around here. Science is extremely dynamic. Homeopathy is as motionless as possible. Get new analogies.

Oh, and I'm not one to point out contradictions but... you have often claimed one of science's weaknesses was that it changed. So which is it? Is it good to be still, or to be dynamic?

If I am not in your views, still people can be. Stop collecting cloured stones in jungle can't be considered as productive/ dynamism.

Another analogy. Don't use them, you don't kow how to construct them.

Yes can be, because science is not absolute & internet is also one gift/curse of science. Therefore, I put things here for your check/views to cross check.

No, you put things here so that somehow someone will confirm your views.

Pls try to understand your position in view of 'nothing is absolute'.

I understand my position. You don't understand yours.

I am trying to sort out/think about 'can be absolute', 'can be dynamic', 'can be real', 'can be doubtful', 'can be beneficials', can be crudes+potencies, 'can be photograh type effect'..... unlimited aspects. Moreover, you indicate that you are science or pro-science people, so first, it is your duty to add to it.

You keep trying to shift the burden of proof. Understand this: It is your claim, so the burden of proof is on you. It is not my duty to look for an explanation to a phenomenon that nobody has shown to exist.

 

[Kumar]

Depends on the words.

Common or of your interest.

[/b]Every time you say "absolute" whatever follows is meaningless drivel.[/b]

No. Avoid dual/pro thinking. One side you agree that you are not absolute/final/conclusive but fore others you want it.

Must be those rose-colored glasses Randi was talking about. Homeopathy hasn't changed in 200 years. What progress?

I doubt about Not changed. Sill it can mean persistant, near to final/absolute/already progressed...so on. What is then wrong with it? On dynamic thinking it is a quality not a defect. You should not tell it a defect that a person unable to climb when he is on mountain.


You keep trying to shift the burden of proof. Understand this: It is your claim, so the burden of proof is on you. It is not my duty to look for an explanation to a phenomenon that nobody has shown to exist.

I think I mostly asked or provided links. I don't know why you want more proof or proof on questions.

Any we this is endless TTTT, so better, if we can be some productive.

 

[Donks]

Common or of your interest.

No. It depends if the words make sense. You should try that sometime.

No. Avoid dual/pro thinking.

What is "dual/pro thinking"?

One side you agree that you are not absolute/final/conclusive but fore others you want it.

Not really. It would be nice if your side presented some proper evidence. Right now it's you with your usual TTTT, and Olaf posting the same old studies over and over again.

I doubt about Not changed. Sill it can mean persistant, near to final/absolute/already progressed...so on.

Then why do the effects dissapear on proper trials?

What is then wrong with it?

Doesn't work.

On dynamic thinking it is a quality not a defect.

Oh, so now dynamic is good. Unless it's about static homeopathy.

You should not tell it a defect that a person unable to climb when he is on mountain.

And what happens when that person is unable to climb even when on the bottom?

I think I mostly asked or provided links. I don't know why you want more proof or proof on questions.

Because you haven't provided any evidence. You keep droning on about mass this and persistent that, like it actually mattered. And even after it is explained to you why it doesn't matter, you keep on going like if nothing was said. It's almost like if you were impervious to learning.

Any we this is endless TTTT, so better, if we can be some productive.

Ok, don't respond to anything above this line. Let's stick to the topic of the thread. How about this part:

Can it be dyanamically thought that' some routine infections are due to our bio-chemical imbalances & so meant to balance these as a natural process of getting these balanced, getting immunities & resistances, which we may probably by some unrequired/excess purifications?

Please answer this quesitons:
1) Which routine infections?

2) What bio-chemical imbalances?

3) Meant by whom?

4) How do antibodies and other immunological responses balance the bio-chemical imbalances of question (2)?

5) How do "unrequired/excess purifications" cause the bio-chemical imbalances of question (2)?

Please answer them one by one, instead of lumping the answers into one paragraph that actually answers none.

 

[Kumar]

Please answer this quesitons:
1) Which routine infections?

Let us just take cough & cold, running nose/.

2) What bio-chemical imbalances?

Mostly, Sodium chloride.

3) Meant for whom

any person.

4) How do antibodies and other immunological responses balance the bio-chemical imbalances of question (2)?

Antiniotocs not related. But running nose, anersion to salt etc may balance NaCl.

5) How do "unrequired/excess purifications" cause the bio-chemical imbalances of question (2)?

We may miss few useful bacterias & minerals from water.

 

[Zep]

Makes you wonder why you bother asking, sometimes...

 

[Mojo]

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Can it be dyanamically thought that' some routine infections are due to our bio-chemical imbalances...?

No. Infections are caused by infective agents such as bacteria.



[Of course, this depends upon what you mean when you use the word "dynamically" with respect to thinking. The contexts in which I have noticed you using it suggest you may mean "wrongly," thus making your question above mean "can it be wrongly thought that some routine infections are due to our bio-chemical imbalances..."]

 

[Mojo]

Why, people, why? That's all I'm going to put out there for you...

WHY?!?!?

You know who you are, and you know what I'm talking about. Just answer - why? WHY do you need to continue to feed Kumarbotâ„¢?

-TT

P.S. I only read the title of this thread. Nothing else. I'm replying out of principle. Nothing more.

And I'm terribly disappointed that Kumar didn't introduce another made up abbreviation here: TTTTTT (ThirdTwin This & That Type Talks).

 

[Donks]

Let us just take cough & cold, running nose/.
Mostly, Sodium chloride.

So a cold is due to a NaCl imbalance? Too little ot too much NaCl? Do you have evidence?

Originally NOT POSTED BY ME
3) Meant for whom

Do not edit my questions and pretend I asked something I didn't I asked "Meand BY whom." In other words, who meant to correct imbalances using routine infections.

Antiniotocs not related.

I neither know nor mentioned any "antiniotocs." I mentioned antibodies. Look them up.

But running nose, anersion to salt etc may balance NaCl.

How?

We may miss few useful bacterias & minerals from water.

Which useful bacterias? Which minerals? Who is drinking water so pure and food so clean that they do not come into contact with these bacteria or minerals?

 

[Kumar]

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No. Infections are caused by infective agents such as bacteria.

True, but what attracts/result them to infect.

Donks,

Try to concentrate on awnsering not questioning, which is probably my field.

 

[Donks]

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Donks,

Try to concentrate on awnsering not questioning, which is probably my field.

This can work one of two ways:
1) You present a claim, we ask questions about it, and you answer them.
2) You honestly ask for help in understanding a concept, we give you resources such as books, articles or websites. You study them. You come back and ask questions regarding them. We respond.

So far what you have been doing is pretending to want to understand a concept, you ask questions, dismiss the information given, then present your theory and pretend it was supported by our information.

 

[Kumar]

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Donks, if you really want to learn pls study;

http://www.acu-cell.com/dis.html

 

[Rolfe]

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Donks, if you really want to learn pls study;

http://www.acu-cell.com/dis.html

Just for the avoidance of doubt, the analysis methods referred to on this site are pure quackery.

Rolfe.

 

[Donks]

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Donks, if you really want to learn pls study;

http://www.acu-cell.com/dis.html

*Deep breath*
*Counts to 10*

*Deep breath*

*Deep breath*

Ok, I feel much better now. Time for a song.


Mad World by Gary Jules (Donnie Darko Soundtrack)
Original lyrics by them Tears for Fears guys.

All around me are familiar faces
Worn out places
Worn out faces
Bright and early for the daily races
Going no where
Going no where
Their tears are filling up their glasses
No expression
No expression
Hide my head I wanna drown my sorrow
No tomorrow
No tomorrow
And I find I kind of funny
I find it kind of sad
The dreams in which I’m dying are the best I’ve ever had
I find it hard to tell you
I find it hard to take
When people run in circles its a very very
Mad world
Mad world
Children waiting for the day they feel good
Happy birthday
Happy birthday
And I feel the way that every child should
Sit and listen
Sit and listen
Went to school and I was very nervous
No one knew me
No one new me
Hello teacher tell me what’s my lesson
Look right through me
Look right through me
And I find I kind of funny
I find it kind of sad
The dreams in which I’m dying are the best I’ve ever had
I find it hard to tell you
I find it hard to take
When people run in circles its a very very
Mad world
Mad world
Enlarging your world
Mad world

 

[Kumar]

Ok, then check tissue salts related to any disease.

Rolfe, this may be your views based on some non-absolute base.

 

[Rolfe]

Rolfe, this may be your views based on some non-absolute base.

No, it's my professional knowledge, based on what I am qualified in and what I do for a living. It is an absolute fact that "evoked nerve point potential" has nothing at all to do with the genetic makeup of the individual and has no relationship to any mineral or other measurements.

I'm not even going to touch the first remark.

Rolfe.