Can Water Quality Effect?

[Kumar]

Hello all,

Water is very important for us. Different places can have different constituents in their natural water. Water quality of different places can be different due to its chemical, Indicator & Microbiological parameters. People will have to take available or distributed/supplied water & its quantity of intake can be thought as 'substabcial effect causing agent on human health'. The following are few links which gives details of chemical, Indicator & Microbiological constituents & parameters & WHO guidelines for Drinking-water Quality. Still, Many many combinations & qualities of water can be there.

http://www.lenntech.com/EU's-drinking-water-standards.htm

http://www.lenntech.com/WHO's-drinking-water-standards.htm

Since, this concept can have substancial influence on mass/all people, I have following questions:-

1. Can water quality effect substancially to different person-- constitutionally & aqusition of some good or bad permanent/persistant/chronic properties on taking specific water of their localities during childhood for long?

2. What is the effect of using hard or soft water during childhood and for long time?

3. What is the effect of using water with different pHs during childhood and for long time?

4. Many people in many countries store water in earthen/clay pots. Few find it as very useful, other consider it bad due to contaminations possibilities.

What chemical reactions can happen by storing water in clay pots & how it can effect to people drinking it regularily? Cooling by evapouration, aeration is one aspect, which I am not considering.

5. Can we also loose something on health ground, by drinking filtered, UV treated, purified..water for long?

6. Can some microbes/bacterias/chemicals/properties..be useful to us for health which we may loose on applying modern techniques of filtration, UV treatments, purifications, bottling etc.?

7. Can water type also effect us by using it, other than drinking(bathing, washing etc.?

8. What will happen if anyone drink & use distilled water--means with least constituents in that?

I think, nothing is homeopathic here unless you make it. So pls avoid.

Best luck.

 

[Rolfe]

Kumar, you need to look up the difference between "effect" and "affect". Otherwise your posts will become even more impenetrable than they already are - if that's possible.

Rolfe.

 

[Donks]

Otherwise your posts will become even more impenetrable than they already are - if that's possible.

Rolfe.

Be careful, he might take that as a challenge. Next thing you know, his posts are random strings of characters.

 

[Kumar]

Kumar, you need to look up the difference between "effect" and "affect". Otherwise your posts will become even more impenetrable than they already are - if that's possible.

Rolfe.

I don't find any confusion in this.

 

[Donks]

Kumar, before I consider seriously answering your post, one question. Why aren't you googling for this information? Most, if not all, of your questions could probably be answered by some heavy duty googling.

 

[Kumar]

Kumar, before I consider seriously answering your post, one question. Why aren't you googling for this information? Most, if not all, of your questions could probably be answered by some heavy duty googling.

I doubt it. Pls give me some links to the effect of your above advice. Moreover, I may also be thinking in indications, sharing, telling & getting.

 

[Deetee]

Hello all,

What will happen if anyone drink & use distilled water--means with least constituents in that?

I think, nothing is homeopathic here unless you make it. So pls avoid.

Best luck.

Are you being ironic?


PS. This is not to be misinterpreted as an invitation to talk about what iron effects(sic).

 

[Donks]

I doubt it. Pls give me some links to the effect of your above advice. Moreover, I may also be thinking in indications, sharing, telling & getting.

Nope. If you don't demonstrate the minimum amount of effort, I'm not doing any work. You'll have to hope someone else is more willing to do the work for you.

 

[Kumar]

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Are you being ironic?


PS. This is not to be misinterpreted as an invitation to talk about what iron effects(sic).

No, but I may try to discuss fluoride/silica link on water stored in clay pots: how a person not drinking sufficient water start drinking much water if water from clay pots is used, how pH is changed by keeping water in clay pot , how microbes in water can be beneficial/harmful, how we loose beneficial effects from microbes or gain, how pH of water can effect & reduce/increase effects of medicines, how Ca, Mg in hard water can cause problems---you know there can be lot of unattended concepts & dynamic thoughts which can be known, provided you know some & want to understand more.

 

[clarsct]

Hmm..

Drink impure water can be bad for you...depending on the impurities and the concentration. Drink pure water is, relatively, good for you. Staying hydrated is a good thing. My advice is to drink the purest water you can find...

 

[Jeff Corey]

'That's why I drink pure rainwater and absolute alcohol - to preserve my vital bodily fluids, Mandrake.'
lt. Gen. Jack D. Ripper

 

[Donks]

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Nhow microbes in water can be beneficial/harmful, how we loose beneficial effects from microbes or gain,

Taken from
here.
Bacteria
Vibrio cholerae
Shigella
Campylobacter
Francisella tularensis
Aeromonas
Legionella pneumophila
Salmonella
Toxigenic Escherichia coli
Leptospira
Yersinia enterocolitica
Helicobacter pylori
Mycobacterium avium

Protozoa
Giardia lamblia
Naegleria fowleri
Entamoeba histolytica
Isospora belli
Toxoplasma gondii
Cryptosporidium parvum
Acanthamoeba
Cyclospora cayetanensis
Ballantidium coli
Microsporidia

Viruses
Norwalk and Norwalk-like
Rotavirus
Hepatitis A and E

Look them up.

 

[Kumar]

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Look them up.

Donks, thanks for the link. From your link;

we use a multi-barrier approach to protecting our drinking water; this generally involves watershed protection, water filtration and disinfection, and maintenance of the water distribution system. None of these barriers can completely eliminate chemicals or microorganisms from our drinking water (and there is a strong argument that this would be detrimental to the development of natural immunity). However, it is important to reduce pathogen concentrations well below infectious doses for the general population and to reduce chemical concentrations well below levels known to be toxic.

Pls also look at other side:-

Without microbes, we couldn’t eat or breathe.

Without us, they’d probably be just fine.

Understanding microbes is vital to understanding the past and the future of ourselves and our planet.

Types of Microbes
Archaea
These bacteria look-alikes are living fossils that are providing clues to the earliest forms of life on Earth.

Bacteria
Often dismissed as “germs” that cause illness, bacteria help us do an amazing array of useful things, like make vitamins, break down some types of garbage, and maintain our atmosphere.

Fungi
From a single-celled yeast to a 3.5-mile-wide mushroom, fungi do everything from helping to bake bread to recycling to decomposing waste.

Protista
Plant-like algae produce much of the oxygen we breathe; animal-like protozoa (including the famous amoeba) help maintain the balance of microbial life.

Viruses
Unable to do much of anything on their own, viruses go into host cells to reproduce, often wreaking havoc and causing disease. Their ability to move genetic information from one cell to another makes them useful for cloning DNA and could provide a way to deliver gene therapy.

Microbial Mergers
Mergers and collaborations on a minute scale paved the way for higher life forms. Today, symbionts (the scientific terms for these mergers) help fertilize plants, construct coral reefs, and help us digest food.
http://www.microbeworld.org/htm/abo...ably by some unrequired/excess purifications?

 

[Donks]

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Pls also look at other side:-

Your information does not support your position. You have to look for information that shows detrimental health effects from drinking as pure a water as possible. Not a single line in your pasted text mentions beneficial health effects of ingesting any of those things. Do you even read what you copy? Mind you, we do need some microbes to function properly. Look it up.

It can be important to understand:-

Can there be useful microbes along with harmful ones, which we may loose on purification?

Find which microbes are beneficial and how we acquire them.

Whether dead microbes on boiling/by radiations serve some purpose of providing many nutrients to us and we loose same on filteration, RO etc. or not?

Not. We get our nutrients from food, not from a minute ammount of contaminants in our drinking water. Kumar, you said this wouldn't be about homeopathy so I'll pretend I don't see where this is going, but think about it. How much food do you eat everyday? About a kilogram? Which happens to be teaming with microbes? Do you really think it's indispensible to get a fraction of a gram more?

Can it be dyanamically thought that' some routine infections are due to our bio-chemical imbalances & so meant to balance these as a natural process of getting these balanced, getting immunities & resistances, which we may probably by some unrequired/excess purifications?

Pure nonsense.
1) Assumes some undetermined "bio-chemical imbalances."
2) Assumes an intelligent entity forcing a "balance."
You have support for these two assumptions? If not, are you going to examine them, or is talking to you a waste of time?

 

[Kumar]

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Mind you, we do need some microbes to function properly.

Yes, that I want to indicate. My previous link also indicates the same. We can check water borne beneficial microbes.


Not. We get our nutrients from food, not from a minute ammount of contaminants in our drinking water. Kumar, you said this wouldn't be about homeopathy so I'll pretend I don't see where this is going, but think about it. How much food do you eat everyday? About a kilogram? Which happens to be teaming with microbes? Do you really think it's indispensible to get a fraction of a gram more?

We can check it by drinking double distilled water. Some chemical as fluoride, hard/soft water effect, water pH effects can be prominently related to water drinking.

Pure nonsense.
1) Assumes some undetermined "bio-chemical imbalances."
2) Assumes an intelligent entity forcing a "balance."
You have support for these two assumptions? If not, are you going to examine them, or is talking to you a waste of time?

We can check it by checking the body chemisry on infection & post infection. Btw, do infective agents, mosquitos etc. are attracted & infect us for some imbalances in biominerals in us or due to blood? Why mosquitos do not bite all the people who are similarily exposed to them at the same time?

 

[Donks]

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Yes, that I want to indicate. My previous link also indicates the same. We can check water borne beneficial microbes.

What previous link? You posted my link and pretended that the information you pasted came from there. Which it didn't. And the informaiton you did post does not support your point. So far you are just asserting that. Present evidence or this conversation will go nowhere.

We can check it by drinking double distilled water. Some chemical as fluoride, hard/soft water effect, water pH effects can be prominently related to water drinking.

Does the water supply anywhere consist of double distilled water?

We can check it by checking the body chemisry on infection & post infection.

So that's a "No, I have no support for my assumptions, and I will not examine them. In fact, I will pretend no questions were asked of me and instead post some new and completely unrelated questions."
Let's see the new questions. And since your refusal to answer pissed me off, I will reply as you would.

Btw, do infective agents, mosquitos etc. are attracted & infect us for some imbalances in biominerals in us or due to blood?

You can see here: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&c2coff=1&q=mosquitoes+attraction+&btnG=Search

Why mosquitos do not bite all the people who are similarily exposed to them at the same time?

You can look for here: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&c2coff=1&q=mosquitoes+biting+preference&btnG=Search

 

[Kumar]

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What previous link? You posted my link and pretended that the information you pasted came from there. Which it didn't.

Donks, sorry I posted your link in my previous post due to oversight. The correct link is:-

http://www.microbeworld.org/htm/aboutmicro/microbes/types_start.htm

I shall try to change it.

It is interesting:-

"Scientists have known for years that lactic acid—present on human skin—is a mosquito attractant. So far, this is true for only a handful of species, one of which is the yellowfever mosquito, Aedes aegypti.
http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/AR/archive/feb00/mosq0200.htm
Stimuli That Attract Mosquitoes

Mosquitoes use visual, thermal, electrical, and olfactory stimuli to locate a host, but the olfactory clues are the most important. The human body releases 300-400 chemicals that are the by-products of metabolism, and, of these, carbon dioxide and lactic acid have the greatest mosquito-attracting power. Carbon dioxide, in fact, can be detected by a mosquito over 100 feet away from the source. At close range, skin temperature plays an important role, and the preference for some mosquitoes to bite the head and neck, or at the feet and ankles, may be due to increased skin temperatures (as well as sweat gland activity) at these sites. At very close range, antennae electrical activity and other mechanisms may predominate.
http://www.sawyerproducts.com/sawyer_products/pages/insect_repellent/Travel_Guide/mosquitoes.htm

Lactic acid is of great interest for me.

 

[Zep]

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Lactic acid is of great interest for me.

Then you should drink LOTS of it. Homeopathically diluted, of course.

 

[Kumar]

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Then you should drink LOTS of it. Homeopathically diluted, of course.

Zep, I suspect some link between;

Most Modern lifestyle/environment imbalances>> Most LA imbalances

 

[Dr. Imago]

Why, people, why? That's all I'm going to put out there for you...

WHY?!?!?

You know who you are, and you know what I'm talking about. Just answer - why? WHY do you need to continue to feed Kumarbotâ„¢?

-TT

P.S. I only read the title of this thread. Nothing else. I'm replying out of principle. Nothing more.