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Bring back hanging

I see that the whole debate already has a comprehensive thread. I'll go an have a look at that one.
 
hodgy said:
The differentiator is that this was someone serving the public. It was for us, for you, not for her. And her daughter now has no Mother.
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What if she was a corrupt cop? Do you know if she was on the take or not?
 
Tmy said:
Why would this merit hanging more than any other murder?

Or do Brits just want to bring back the death penalty in general.
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For some reason the murder of a police officer always seems to cause more calls for hanging to be brought back then most other murders. Apparently the murder of a police woman is more important then the killing of say my mother.

To your question - at the moment the evidence is that a majority would support it. However I suspect that majority would quickly dwindle if there was an actual chance to bring it back. We've had too many miscarriages of justice over the last few years for any rational person to feel comfortable with giving the state the power to kill us.

I posted this just the other day:
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If the UK had a death sentence it is likely that these three innocent women would have been killed:

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hodgy said:
The differentiator is that this was someone serving the public. It was for us, for you, not for her. And her daughter now has no Mother.
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And what you are asking for is to make the public--each person--a party to another killing. One you (and perhaps the majority) feel is more than justified, but this person would be killed in the name of even those who disagree.
 
Ok - good points all and some interesting links for me to follow up.
The OP had an emotional motivation and being honest - I wish I hadn't posted it (don't like wearing my heart on my sleeve).

I'm not sufficiently objective to argue this point rationally so I'll bow out here. I hope no-one thinks badly of me for that.
 
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hodgy said:
Ok - good points all and some interesting links for me to follow up.
The OP had an emotional motivation and being honest - I wish I hadn't posted it (don't like wearing my heart on my sleeve).

I'm not sufficiently objective to argue this point rationally so I'll bow out here. I hope no-one thinks badly of me for that.
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Collect your thoughts and come back to it. It's a debatable point and I'm hoping you don't feel there was any hostility, at least on my part. I have strong feelings on the subject as well and we are all here because we like to discuss. Well, most of us. ;)

And wearing your heart on your sleeve can be awfully messy.
 
BRING BACK HANGING...around on street corners.

(Old Punch cartoon)
 
hodgy said:
Ok - good points all and some interesting links for me to follow up.
The OP had an emotional motivation and being honest - I wish I hadn't posted it (don't like wearing my heart on my sleeve).

I'm not sufficiently objective to argue this point rationally so I'll bow out here. I hope no-one thinks badly of me for that.
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It is an emotional topic. My argument against you is, I think, every bit as emotionally motivated as your OP.

Nothing wrong with subjectivity, when we recognise it for what it is. We are subjective creatures, after all, and it would be the height of folly to pretend we are not, when issues are as emotional as this one is.

You have my respect for this post, even if we disagree on the issue.
 
Gurdur said:
Why stop with hanging? Bring back rum, sodomy and the lash!
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That sounds like an above-decks slogan. Below decks, "Rum, Bum and Concertina" mirrored "Wine, Women and Song". The lash has always been more of a public-school thing.

By notoriety, the US prison system does involve the principle of sodomy as a punishment, rather than a pastime, promise or privilege. Not sure how I'd rate that against the death penalty. "Utility Bitch No 4, E-wing" is not how I'd like to see out my days.
 
Iconoclast said:
Can you post a link? I'm not saying I don't believe you, but this is the first I've heard of a groundswell of poeple wanting to bring back capital punishment.
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It doesn't require a groundswell, there's always been a majority in favour of the death penalty in the UK. There's always an immediate case - IRA terrorists (bye-bye Brummie 6, Guildford 5 and other provably-Irish folk), serial killers, children who kill, paedophiles, terrorists again - Islamic now - and police-killers anytime. But the issue is not of political importance, as it is in parts of the US. Rather like abortion or homosexuality. People will say "I'd vote for the death penalty", but they don't vote on the issue. And nobody's going to give the electorate a referendum on the matter.

Apologies, Gurdur, but you are in this case an example of the simplistic majority's reaction. That's a poll of 100% of 1, Iconoclast. Recent enough?:)
 
CapelDodger said:
That explains why the heart has supplanted the liver as the metaphorical seat of emotion. The fashion industry.
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I tried wearing my spleen on my sleeve for a while, but frankly, it did not set off the colour of my eyes nearly so well as my heart did. So I vented my spleen, let out my gall bladder, and the rest of the story is all there in the appendix.
 
hodgy said:
Hanging should be brought back to England, Parliament dos not represent the will of the people on this issue...
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Why hanging?

And I thought gun control was supposed to keep this type of thing from happening. It’s weird that it didn’t.
 
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I'm in complete shock that no one has posted this yet...


OOOOhhh, the Lord loves a hangin', that's why he give us necks
It tightens up our vocal chords, and loosens up our specs.
So if you are a horse thief and guilty to the bone,
Go ahead and blame a friend and you won't hang alone!

It may be hard to swaller, but you'll be three feet taller,
And find new ways to entertain your friends.
You say you are a villian, but can't abide by killin',
Go ahead and steal yourself a horse.

Two three eleven or five seven
I'm a pickin' and I'm a swingin'!
I'm ignorant, and I'm ugly!
That you are, boys.

OOOOhhh, The Lord loves a hangin', and so do we by heck!
So go and get a lasso and decorate your neck!
Oh we is awful ignorant and uglier than sin,
so go ahead and cut us down...And hang us all again!
 
Tony said:
Why hanging?

And I thought gun control was supposed to keep this type of thing from happening. It’s weird that it didn’t.
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Well nothing is perfect.

It's a bit like having a death sentence as a deterrent and then expecting there would be no murders.
 
In a possibly-related note, CNN reported within the last couple of weeks that some politician was promoting the use of the Guillotine again.

'Tis quick, though somewhat messy.

The History channel had a show on the history of capital punishment a while back, and they mentioned that though the world in general had given up on the device, the Germans still employed it through WWII for "civil" executions.
In typical German fashion, they had a rather complex device with a cleverly-routed drainage system and a receptacle for the deceased head.
 
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