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Cont: Brexit XII

jeremyp said:
Exports decreased by 27% but imports decreased by 32%. So you are saying our trade balance with the EU has improved.

I think I'm going to cry.
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I suppose that's one way of looking at it. The other way is to say that those imports had a role in the UK economy as goods for sale, as components in a value added process in the UK economy, as components in goods for export and so on. The UK economy is damaged as a result of those goods no longer coming in even if they are replaced by locally manufactured alternatives because the local alternatives will be higher cost and/or lower quality otherwise they would always have been used.
 
The Don said:
I suppose that's one way of looking at it. The other way is to say that those imports had a role in the UK economy as goods for sale, as components in a value added process in the UK economy, as components in goods for export and so on. The UK economy is damaged as a result of those goods no longer coming in even if they are replaced by locally manufactured alternatives because the local alternatives will be higher cost and/or lower quality otherwise they would always have been used.
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Yes I know. My reply was a slightly tongue in cheek reimagining of how the Brexiteers might spin it.

The reality, of course, is it is a total disaster.
 
jeremyp said:
Yes I know. My reply was a slightly tongue in cheek reimagining of how the Brexiteers might spin it.

The reality, of course, is it is a total disaster.
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I'm reminded of a guy I was working for in the immediate post Brexit vote period (he owned a wine supply company) who told me he voted Leave because "We spend more with Europe than anyone else", I asked him if he was also planning to drop his main wine supplier for the same reason.
 
P.J. Denyer said:
I'm reminded of a guy I was working for in the immediate post Brexit vote period (he owned a wine supply company) who told me he voted Leave because "We spend more with Europe than anyone else", I asked him if he was also planning to drop his main wine supplier for the same reason.
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Once again I'm reminded of the store staff, who didn't restock top selling goods, because: "They sell too fast".
 
P.J. Denyer said:
I'm reminded of a guy I was working for in the immediate post Brexit vote period (he owned a wine supply company) who told me he voted Leave because "We spend more with Europe than anyone else", I asked him if he was also planning to drop his main wine supplier for the same reason.
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Clearly he wants to stick to selling only british wine.
 
ponderingturtle said:
Clearly he wants to stick to selling only british wine.
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So much better than that foreign muck.

Best of all is "British Table Wine" which was a staple of the lower end of the market 40 years or so ago - wine made in the UK from imported grape concentrate - yum !
 
There is a difference between British wine, generally made from grape juice concentrate and not great, and English wine made from English grown grapes and pretty good. Several have won prizes in fact.
 
Some English white sparkling wines are rated with the best Champagne.

There's a very good winery in North Yorkshire just over the moors from us.
 
I'm well aware that Britain makes some excellent wines.

However, the reds are at best OK and compare very poorly to the best from Europe IMO.
 
The biggest problem with British wine is that there just isn't enough of it, total production with no exports would satisfy less than 10 days of the UK 's annual demand.
 
Andy_Ross said:
Some English white sparkling wines are rated with the best Champagne.

There's a very good winery in North Yorkshire just over the moors from us.
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Sparkling wine is interesting in that the qualities that make it really good actually make really poor non sparkling wines, grapes from cooler regions that would make sour still wine are exciting and refreshing with the addition of a bit of carbon dioxide.
 
Once again, I am amazed that so many in the UK don't want to admit they are part of Europe.
 
The Don said:
Safe drinking water is overrated. The sunlit uplands will provide plenty of UV light to render polluted drinking water safe to use.
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◊◊◊◊ in our drinking water is a small price to pay for the twin glories of Brexit & Privatisation! To anyone that complains I say "Let them drink Evian!"
 
It's nothing new.

Ian Dury sang about pollution in the water years ago

I took a sudden notion
To go down to the ocean
I'd got my sun-tan lotion
My flippers and my mask

In proper distribution
Of fully-formed ablutions
Formed an ocean of pollution
In which I daredn't bask

Some turds were teeny-tiny
And some were big and shiny
But they all ◊◊◊◊◊◊ up the briney
In which I dipped my toe

If you go swimming in the ◊◊◊◊◊-us
You'll get worse than dermititis
From the sea of grey detritus
Where the sewage ebbs and flows

There's no respite
From the cess-pit
No shelter from the pong
The poor old ocean
Is full of motions
Where the hell did we go wrong?

Like a lamb off to the slaughter
Poured myself a glass of water
I failed to spot I'd caught a
Little creature in my cup

I was well and truly bolleaux-ed
From the fires of hell that followed
T'was the cup of life I'd swallowed
And it almost did me up

Something coming
Through the plumbing
That should not be there at all
The glass is brimming
And things are swimming
And quite frankly, I'm appalled

I was a very hungry fella
I defrosted my paella
Came down with Salmonella
Three weeks intensive care

They failed to send technicians in
To check the air-conditioning
Which was unfortunately transmissioning
A case of Legionnaires
There's a malaise
In the mayonnaise
There's a poo-poo in the prawn
Where we missed them
In the system
Little germs are being born
There's no respite
From the cess-pit
There's no shelter from the pong
Where the hell did we go wrong?

 
Allow me a laugh or two!

www.theguardian.com

Majority of Brexit voters ‘would accept free movement’ to access single market

Europe-wide polling finds UK and EU leaders now out of step with public opinion and pursue ‘ambitious reset’
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

Among all UK voters, 68% of respondents would now back free movement in exchange for single market access, with 19% opposed and majority support among supporters of every party apart from Reform UK (44% of whose voters also backed the idea).
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:bgrin:
 
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