Cont: Brexit: Now What? 7th heaven...

[Lukraak_Sisser]

Clear ruling from Bercow that the government cannot bring back a deal that is "the same, or substantially the same" as the one that was rejected last week.

Given that that is the deal the UK will get, regardless of what they claim, I guess that's a no-deal exit then.

 

[Dave Rogers]

Clear ruling from Bercow that the government cannot bring back a deal that is "the same, or substantially the same" as the one that was rejected last week.

Cue complaints from Brexiteers that failing to allow a repeated vote on the same motion is undemocratic.

Dave

 

[angrysoba]

Cue complaints from Brexiteers that failing to allow a repeated vote on the same motion is undemocratic.

Dave

No. It seems they are supporting the decision.

 

[Dave Rogers]

No. It seems they are supporting the decision.

As are remainers. Weird; Bercow seems to have found the one thing both extremes can agree on, yet he's being criticised for bias.

Dave

 

[Andy_Ross]

Clear ruling from Bercow that the government cannot bring back a deal that is "the same, or substantially the same" as the one that was rejected last week.

Apparently there is a precedent in Erskine May from 1604 "The Same Question Or Bill May Not be Twice Offered in One Session"

(Erskine May is the 'rule book' for Parliament)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erskine_May:_Parliamentary_Practice

 

[catsmate]

As are remainers. Weird; Bercow seems to have found the one thing both extremes can agree on, yet he's being criticised for bias.

Dave

It might pass this time, so the Brexiteers wouldn't get their hard exit and the Remainers would lose their chance of stopping the mess.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

Clear ruling from Bercow that the government cannot bring back a deal that is "the same, or substantially the same" as the one that was rejected last week.

How dare you suggest it's the same! Helvetica, people, Helvetica! Last time it was TNR.

 

[Archie Gemmill Goal]

Given that that is the deal the UK will get, regardless of what they claim, I guess that's a no-deal exit then.

The government have said that if they cant get a deal they will ask for a long extension. so that has to happen now. or at least that is what has to happen if the government has any scruples at all.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

As are remainers. Weird; Bercow seems to have found the one thing both extremes can agree on, yet he's being criticised for bias.

Dave

It's the three way standoff from the end of The Good, The Bad and The Ugly.

Unfortunately events have conspired that the middle position, which no-one wants but that probably beats the other option you don't want, gets shot first.

 

[ponderingturtle]

The government have said that if they cant get a deal they will ask for a long extension. so that has to happen now. or at least that is what has to happen if the government has any scruples at all.

So will they participate in the EU elections then? Given how much running down the clock to put pressure on the EU was a primary strategy doesn't this undermine the whole leave campaign so far?

 

[catsmate]

How dare you suggest it's the same! Helvetica, people, Helvetica! Last time it was TNR.

Well kudos for embracing the world of sans-serif....

 

[catsmate]

So will they participate in the EU elections then? Given how much running down the clock to put pressure on the EU was a primary strategy doesn't this undermine the whole leave campaign so far?

That's why I wonder if the EU will actually allow an extension beyond July.

 

[ponderingturtle]

That's why I wonder if the EU will actually allow an extension beyond July.

Yea that seems unlikely with out some indication that the UK would reach a decision.

Seems very apt

https://thehill.com/policy/international/434548-frances-eu-minister-names-her-cat-brexit-because-when-she-opens-the-door

 

[Mojo]

How dare you suggest it's the same! Helvetica, people, Helvetica! Last time it was TNR.

Comic Sans would have been more appropriate.

 

[Mojo]

The government have said that if they cant get a deal they will ask for a long extension. so that has to happen now.

Or were they just saying that to try to get the hard brexiteers to vote on their side?

 

[Pixel42]

Apparently there is a precedent in Erskine May from 1604 "The Same Question Or Bill May Not be Twice Offered in One Session"

(Erskine May is the 'rule book' for Parliament)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erskine_May:_Parliamentary_Practice

Apparently Theresa May's husband is a direct descendant of his.

 

[Nessie]

Rees-Mogg has tweeted he thinks leaving on the 29th with no deal is the best option.

With Mays deal off the table the choice is now no deal or ask for a long extension.

 

[dudalb]

Someone posted more film of the marchers. By lunch time there were only about 30 of them left, trudging through the rain.

Someone asked "Where are they now?"

the reply was "About 1953"

I am so stealing that to use about Trump supporters in the US....

 

[dudalb]

That's why I wonder if the EU will actually allow an extension beyond July.

I think the attitude that they should let the kid touch the hot stove lid with hand and learn the hard way is gaining daily/

 

[a_unique_person]

Clear ruling from Bercow that the government cannot bring back a deal that is "the same, or substantially the same" as the one that was rejected last week.

He could have done some preparation and earned his pay by looking all this up before hand. This situation has been predicted by several pundits.