Breaking down telepathy

[Marduk]

So if someone proved telepathy, would they be considered the starting point in the further evolution of mankind?

Only if they were attractive to the opposite sex
otherwise no, telepathy in the evolutionary stakes is a pretty crappy advantage when compared to say good looks or a fat wallet
I can't actually think of any women I know who'd want a telepathic partner either, peoples thoughts are inside their heads for a reason
most likely the true telepath would get shunned by society and then cut up by the military

 

[Kleonaptra]

http://www.pemft.net/part-2-frequency.html

I recommend, 'frequencies emitted by energy healers (.3 - 30HZ)'

about half way down the page.

I completely agree in Emily Rosa's experiement, none of them could do it. Not arguing with you on that. But that it doesnt exist at all? Big claim, not enough evidence. Of course you say I'm doing the same thing.

 

[Kleonaptra]

Only if they were attractive to the opposite sex
otherwise no, telepathy in the evolutionary stakes is a pretty crappy advantage when compared to say good looks or a fat wallet
I can't actually think of any women I know who'd want a telepathic partner either, peoples thoughts are inside their heads for a reason
most likely the true telepath would get shunned by society and then cut up by the military

Hmm, thats a damn good reason why no one who can actually do it has claimed the million, but wouldnt that be special pleading?

 

[Apology]

Sorry all, the bird was a poor example - I meant, its not common for a wild bird to be SICK because of worms because of their resistance to them. Birds have worms like cats do. BTW all those pages refer to pet birds in closed environments, and they cycle their worms.

Ok then, these two refer to parasitic worms in wild birds. Apparently it's more common than you believe:

Parasites (including worms) in Wild Birds

"Roundworms are common in poultry, waterfowl and wild birds."

Seriously, Google is your friend.

 

[Marduk]

Hmm, thats a damn good reason why no one who can actually do it has claimed the million, but wouldnt that be special pleading?

you'd need special pleading to get laid,

I ran a quick survey of the women in my household and the general consensus is that dating a telepath would be "creepy", apparently to make a woman happy you have to demonstrate the telepath like ability known as "being informed" of their needs, but being actually telepathic is cheating

 

[Kleonaptra]

you'd need special pleading to get laid,

I ran a quick survey of the women in my household and the general consensus is that dating a telepath would be "creepy", apparently to make a woman happy you have to demonstrate the telepath like ability known as "being informed" of their needs, but being actually telepathic is cheating

Most people do. But Im a married female. Statistically I use special pleading to get OUT of getting laid

 

[Kleonaptra]

Ok then, these two refer to parasitic worms in wild birds. Apparently it's more common than you believe:

Parasites (including worms) in Wild Birds

"Roundworms are common in poultry, waterfowl and wild birds."

Seriously, Google is your friend.

I meant, its not common for a wild bird to be SICK because of worms because of their resistance to them. Birds have worms like cats do.

 

[Kleonaptra]

My dictionary describes telepathy as -

"Action of one mind on another at a distance without communication of the senses"

Thats how I define it, just wanted to clarify because we all seem to have a different definition. That does not imply that I know everything about everyone I meet because I can do the vulcan mind meld. Its broad and open with lots of room for variables.

 

[PixyMisa]

http://www.pemft.net/part-2-frequency.html

I recommend, 'frequencies emitted by energy healers (.3 - 30HZ)'

about half way down the page.

That page is complete garbage. Some of it is real stuff, just badly garbled, but a lot of it is nonsense and lies.

We can go through it at length if you really want, but you'd be better of not believing everything you read on the internet.

I completely agree in Emily Rosa's experiement, none of them could do it. Not arguing with you on that. But that it doesnt exist at all? Big claim, not enough evidence.

The thing is, lots of people claim to have paranormal abilities. No-one has ever demonstrated any such ability when tested.

So until someone does demonstrate such an ability, we are entirely justified in concluding that such abilities do not exist. Doubly so in that such abilities are physically impossible.

Of course you say I'm doing the same thing.

No. My claim is justified, yours is not.

 

[PixyMisa]

My dictionary describes telepathy as -

"Action of one mind on another at a distance without communication of the senses"

Thats how I define it, just wanted to clarify because we all seem to have a different definition. That does not imply that I know everything about everyone I meet because I can do the vulcan mind meld. Its broad and open with lots of room for variables.

And doesn't happen.

 

[Kleonaptra]

When you are looking into your partners/childrens/pets eyes you know they love you. You dont know how you know its love, it just is. You know it. There is no scientific evidence for it. No way to measure it.

I hereby put forth that love does not exist and never will because no one can demonstrate to me scientific evidence of its existance.

 

[PixyMisa]

When you are looking into your partners/childrens/pets eyes you know they love you. You dont know how you know its love, it just is. You know it. There is no scientific evidence for it. No way to measure it.

Of course there's a way to measure it. It affects your biochemistry and behaviour. It's been the subject of research in psychology, neurology, neurochemistry and biochemistry for decades.

I hereby put forth that love does not exist and never will because no one can demonstrate to me scientific evidence of its existance.

That's a very, very silly claim.

And this is, once again, special pleading.

 

[Kleonaptra]

Of course there's a way to measure it. It affects your biochemistry and behaviour. It's been the subject of research in psychology, neurology, neurochemistry and biochemistry for decades.


That's a very, very silly claim.

And this is, once again, special pleading.

I think you're the one thats special pleading now.

If it could be measured, why is it still the subject of research in all of those fields? There could be many things that influence biochemistry and behaviour - no one has proved its love. We just like to believe in love rather than particularly well matching pheremones.

Theres proof of effects on biochemistry and behaviour, sure. But no one has proved the existance of love.

 

[PixyMisa]

I think you're the one thats special pleading now.

You usually do. You're wrong.

If it could be measured, why is it still the subject of research in all of those fields?

That IS why. Things that can't be measured aren't the subject of research. Because they don't exist.

There could be many things that influence biochemistry and behaviour - no one has proved its love.

Lots of things do influence biochemistry and behaviour. One of them is love.

Or, to be more accurate, love is a particular pattern of behaviour influenced by biochemical changes.

 

[Kleonaptra]

You usually do. You're wrong.


That IS why. Things that can't be measured aren't the subject of research. Because they don't exist.


Lots of things do influence biochemistry and behaviour. One of them is love.

Or, to be more accurate, love is a particular pattern of behaviour influenced by biochemical changes.

Before you can claim that, first prove to me the existance of love.

 

[Halfcentaur]

I think you're the one thats special pleading now.

If it could be measured, why is it still the subject of research in all of those fields? There could be many things that influence biochemistry and behaviour - no one has proved its love. We just like to believe in love rather than particularly well matching pheremones.

Theres proof of effects on biochemistry and behaviour, sure. But no one has proved the existance of love.

This is just embarrassing.

 

[PixyMisa]

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Before you can claim that, first prove to me the existance of love.

Do you accept that biochemistry exists?

Do you accept that patterns of behaviour exist?

Do you accept that biochemistry influences behaviour?

Well, "love" is simply a word we attach to certain patterns of behaviour.

As I said, this is a very, very silly argument.

And it's special pleading.

 

[Kleonaptra]

That page is complete garbage. Some of it is real stuff, just badly garbled, but a lot of it is nonsense and lies.We can go through it at length if you really want, but you'd be better of not believing everything you read on the internet.


The thing is, lots of people claim to have paranormal abilities. No-one has ever demonstrated any such ability when tested.

So until someone does demonstrate such an ability, we are entirely justified in concluding that such abilities do not exist. Doubly so in that such abilities are physically impossible.

No. My claim is justified, yours is not.

Please provide evidence to support these claims.

 

[Kleonaptra]

Do you accept that biochemistry exists?

Do you accept that patterns of behaviour exist?

Do you accept that biochemistry influences behaviour?

Well, "love" is simply a word we attach to certain patterns of behaviour.

As I said, this is a very, very silly argument.

And it's special pleading.

All you are proving is that its ok to use special pleading when you want to. You believe in the existance of love because you KNOW you have experienced it, even though its outside the scope of scientific measurement. You can measure patterns of behaviour and biochemistry forever, you cant prove the existance of love. Its entirely subjective, and the reactions will be different in every specimen and every test. You cant prove love is the cause of these biochemical reactions or behavioral patterns. Its just as likely to be caused by outside stimuli or reaction to pheremones. Using the scientific theorim you have given me, you cant even start measuring the affects of love until you prove it exists.

 

[Giza]

Only if they were attractive to the opposite sex
otherwise no, telepathy in the evolutionary stakes is a pretty crappy advantage when compared to say good looks or a fat wallet
I can't actually think of any women I know who'd want a telepathic partner either, peoples thoughts are inside their heads for a reason
most likely the true telepath would get shunned by society and then cut up by the military

Haha, I was thinking that the telepath(going to talk as if it were a male) would have different standards when it comes to a relationship, this person would be able to read their partners mind, whenever a man appears on television once the partner has that little 'dirty' thought, the telepath would then turn the cold shoulder. Making him even more withdrawn from even attempting another relationship without a complete 'analyzation' of a prospect. This partner of the telepath would have to be solid in their love for him 100%. You know how hurtful it would be to the telepath if they were making love and realizing the partner was thinking of another man? Or you're out in public with your mate and she's thinking of the guy that just walked past? The telepath would have a great struggle when it comes to a relationship even with a person of the same sex. Imagine being out in public and reading people's mind when they are having a negative opinion of you. Telepathy wouldn't be all fun & games, is what I'm trying to say.