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Breaking down telepathy

Kleonaptra said:
I did mention my knowledge of the animal in question and perception of its body language. I never said I worked on feeling alone, that was your conclusion.
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Seems as if the thoughts of a being rolls off their movements.
 
Giza said:
I have a question, have you ever saw the (hard to explain) 'avatar' of a person as if you believe they are thinking you? Or just animals, wasn't sure if you were able to with humans as well.
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'Avatar' is a sanskrit word meaning 'god in human form'. I think you mean what is usually referred to as a 'fetch' or 'wraith' which means a non physical imprint of a person. It is the 'wraith' which walks out of the body during astral travel (supposedly). Ive never seen one no, but I dont 'see' in that way. My mom in law lives in another state and when I went into labour she called me immediately "I can feel your pains - its started hasnt it?" or if my mum is coming over I will have a feeling she needs grain for her birds and go and get it and when she gets here she'll say "Ah, you got my message" little things like that.
 
Interesting.. perhaps animals are easier to 'read' due to how many thoughts they produce(or lack of thought), which I believe would be miniscule compared to a human.
 
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Giza said:
Seems as if the thoughts of a being rolls off their movements.
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For me its cumulative - I know the species, the normal parameters, but that can mean little to the individual, and I know my animals, I know their personalities and their individual body language. I watch them everyday and any change in behaviour is a red flag. Then I observe to see if its serious or if its simple. Its all just 'feelings' which doesnt amount to any evidence. I havnt looked after client horses in 5 years so I dont know if Id be as quick to learn their quirks, I worked as a groom about 2 years ago and it took me a good few weeks to feel like I knew the horses and could start spotting things other people hadnt seen, but that just makes me observant and perceptive, not telepathic.

The last animal I rescued was about a year ago, a common mynah. It got hit by a car. I touched it and knew instantly it was affected with intestinal worms (which is rare in birds that fly) so I treated it and the worms were evident in its droppings a few hours later. It eventually died of its head injuries, which was sad but to be expected.
 
Giza said:
Interesting.. perhaps animals are easier to 'read' due to how many thoughts they produce(lack of thought), which I believe would be miniscule compared to a human.
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I believe they think just as much as us, but in much simpler ways. When my show gelding is standing looking at the shed, I know he's wondering what will be in his dinner tonight. Once when my partner had to handle one of my horses (we dont own him anymore) who was not too bright he told me "theres nothing in his head but sunlight and gum leaves"

But my stallion thinks really thinks. When we replaced boards in his paddock, he went and carefully chewed the edges of the wood from the new nails so the planks came down again. He systematically tests the electric fence so he can try to get into the feed shed. He is the only animal Ive ever known to exhibit problem solving behaviour.
 
I see, the animal has a lot less distraction than a human, so their thought process would be easier to perceive possibly. I've noticed that since I have a lot less distraction I've also become a lot more perceptive of things such as well. As if too much distraction actually handicaps our perceptive ability as humans.
 
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Giza said:
I see, the animal has a lot less distraction than a human, so their thought process would be easier to perceive possibly. I've noticed that since I have a lot less distraction I've also become a lot more perceptive of things such as that. As if too much distraction actually handicaps our perceptive ability as humans.
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Yes, less distraction but also simpler goals - eating, sleeping, breeding, surviving. So, simpler images might mean its easier to 'read' them but Im not sure it can be tested accurately or in a way that would satisfy everyone.

I have read about people who can use mental energies, and all of the people who have been reported to do it consistantly are closed off from society, they live simple lives and meditate for most of their day. People like this arent interested in testing their abilities or the million dollars, these are people seeking inner peace. As a rule they dont bother themselves with anything from the outside world. I'm referring to yogis and monks. Im not about to become a monk, but I can improve my meditation practises, I can test my telepathy and I can see if I get more accurate with time.
 
Interesting, what do the mental energies do? I too am not secure in these abilities as of yet. I find it intriguing to break it down and try to find others that can relate.

How about synchronicity when making such connections? Or in your daily routines.
 
Giza said:
Interesting, what do the mental energies do? I too am not secure in these abilities as of yet. I find it intriguing to break it down and try to find others that can relate.

How about synchronicity when making such connections? Or in your daily routines.
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I'm referring to the use of 'chi' by shaolin monks, use of telepathy and telekineses by krishna yogis. Its all speculation, none of it has been properly tested or accurately reported. Its just the idea of training your mind to affect your energy flow I like, and I feel that way because meditation and positive thought have created improvment for me with my medical condition - I had a bad head injury some years ago after a fall from a horse and experienced a lot of complications. With a combination of medical and wholistic approach, I am now functional, which I was not 2 years ago.

Oh and BTW everyone, when I said 'known' I meant, 'known physically' not 'known' as in 'I read about it'.
 
Kleonaptra said:
I cant say I've ever kept chimps. For a horse to exhibit problem solving behaviour is unusual, but you wouldnt know that if you havnt kept horses.
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Your lack of knowledge is not my fault. Blaming me for your faults is a covert-aggressive behavioral disorder, and I don't stand for that. Stop it.

http://www.horsetalk.co.nz/features/horseintelligence-119.shtml

http://www.thehorse.com/ViewArticle.aspx?ID=15396

http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/nica...ldn-t-tell-you-and-mr-ed-kept-to-himself.aspx
 
Kleonaptra said:
I cant say I ever reached a rock hard conclusion that it was telepathy. When diagnosing an animal theres always the big grey area, because you can know the area thats affected, and you can make educated guesses as to whats causing it but actually finding out the exact problem is the tricky part. Often we treat for a broad range to eliminate possibilities, I only said I had a knack for narrowing the range. Since Ive never kept records on every animal and my 'hunches' before we went to the vet, I cant answer your question, Im sorry.
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What makes you think it might be telepathy at all, to the slightest extent, as opposed to being lucky a few times, forgetting your misses, and maybe some cold reading thrown in?

I'm suspecting that when we finally get down to it, there's no good reason at all to think it is telepathy to any extent. That's the purpose to my questions. I'd be happy if my suspicions were not correct, though.
 
carlitos said:
Your lack of knowledge is not my fault. Blaming me for your faults is a covert-aggressive behavioral disorder, and I don't stand for that. Stop it.

http://www.horsetalk.co.nz/features/horseintelligence-119.shtml

http://www.thehorse.com/ViewArticle.aspx?ID=15396

http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/nica...ldn-t-tell-you-and-mr-ed-kept-to-himself.aspx
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I've read those articles. I'm familiar with it, but in the horse industry it is a new idea that horses are smart and can exhibit problem solving behaviour. If it was commonly accepted and shown by every horse, we wouldnt be writing articles about it. When I started training 15 years ago I was being trained by people who believed horses were big dumb creatures and any idea that they were intelligent was only just breaking ground. Most of this research is being done by trainers in my age bracket because we dont like the old ideas or methods.

I didnt blame you for anything. I think we are having a communication breakdown.
 
Paul2 said:
What makes you think it might be telepathy at all, to the slightest extent, as opposed to being lucky a few times, forgetting your misses, and maybe some cold reading thrown in?

I'm suspecting that when we finally get down to it, there's no good reason at all to think it is telepathy to any extent. That's the purpose to my questions. I'd be happy if my suspicions were not correct, though.
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Its just a sense of connection I have, a feeling. Its in no way any kind of evidence, just an idea. As an example, if I take an animal to the vet and I say, "I think we should look here" there have been times when both the vet and I were very surprised to find I found the problem first go without lots of invasive or expensive tests. When I worked on a stud, the stud boss used to always ask me to sit in with the vet because in his words "K always knows where to look" I found it funny, but he thought it was a great way to save money.

Your suspicions might be correct, I might be wrong. Even if Im not, I cant prove it so I'm content to live in the grey area, and quick to speak up if I get a hunch about something.

Earlier this year I was convinced my old broodmare was on the way out. She was mostly exhibiting normal behaviour but I felt something was 'off' with her. I switched her over to a special old horse pellet and now she's galloping about like a 3 year old. So I was really happy to be wrong.
 
I forgot something.. a sort of practice.

Has anyone had any experience with mimicking the words of another as they come out of their mouth? Not with the intention of mocking but a way of practicing your ability to perceive what they are about to say. I usually do it while watching television as a way of practicing.

If you have, have you ever tried to do that practice with their thought?
 
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