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Botched Execution, Again

I cannot feel compassion for the man. He raped, shot and buried his victim while she was apparently still alive. The second prisoner deserved even worse. He raped his girlfriends 11 month old baby and then he killed the infant.

So he feels a bit of pain. I personally could care less.
 
Cainkane1 said:
I cannot feel compassion for the man. He raped, shot and buried his victim while she was apparently still alive. The second prisoner deserved even worse. He raped his girlfriends 11 month old baby and then he killed the infant.

So he feels a bit of pain. I personally could care less.
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I don't think anyone is asking or expecting you (and the others expressing similar sentiments) to care about this particularly person's pain and suffering. What we're all supposed to care about is following the law, which includes a ban on cruel and unusual punishment. That ban doesn't exist to protect convicted child killers; it exists to protect a) society (we're all better off if our public institutions avoid cruelty) and b) those who might be wrongfully convicted of crimes (since absolute certainty of guilt is not legally required to convict someone of a crime).
 
svenax said:
Isn't the whole point of having people watch executions to let them feel revenge and have a properly gruesome show? What's with the squeamishness then - if you don't want to see someone die, then don't watch it.

Also, why the elaborate (and error prone) setups for lethal injection and other execution methods used in the US? You want to kill someone, right? Let's just make it as easy as possible and use a captive bolt pistol as used on larger animals in an abattoir. Quick and painless, no?
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I think the point of having witnesses to an execution is for the same reasons that there are witnesses to a marriage. This gets expanded to include family and journalists.
 
applecorped said:
The statement about me is predicated on the requirement that the convict suffered. He suffered, I laughed.
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Again: why ? Because you want to "get back" at this person for what he did ? Do you believe that making yourself feel good at the expense of even the guilty is somehow a good thing, and that this is how we should solve our problems in a society ?
 
We have a situation here where a twice-convicted criminal is up for release, and.. the community is pretty much opposed!
As a 2-Strikes Offender, the next conviction is an automatic life term.
Therefore it is to his advantage to leave no living witnesses when he attacks again.
http://ktla.com/2014/04/04/court-he...y-release-of-pillowcase-rapist/#axzz30gWyzcc9
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I signed the petition to keep him in prison for life..
My alternate suggestion.. remove ALL his junk, and ALL of his fingers, AND his eyes, and release him in the custody of a parole board member who voted for his release, and who has a daughter... probably wouldn't be done.
 
What does that even mean ?

You were fishing for a reaction, and when called on it, rather than have a debate, you kept piling it on. The only reason for you to do that is to get a greater reaction. Since I'm not looking for that kind of discussion, there is no point in continuing.
 
I don't envy the prison guards for their jobs. It's not one I'd be willing to do, especially on Death Row. Even if they don't sympathize with the condemned, or simply see executing a prisoner they may have known and worked with for years as part of the job, I'd imagine they'd still like see the task done with a minimum of stress. I doubt they much appreciate their job being that much harder for no purpose other than the BS wrangling of politicians.

Bring back the guillotine, or firing squads, if we really want to make state sanctioned executions as quick and painless as possible.
 
There's many videos of firing squads on the 'net.. none of them appear to be quick.
Saddam's hanging was.
One of his cronies had the Black Jack Ketchum result on the same gallows.
 
Why not drown the guy? Strap him down tight and just dunk him for 10 minutes in a tank of water.
 
Takes too long.
A proper hanging is over with very quickly, as is a decapitation.
Many of the problems in the past have been the insistence of the powers-that- be to make a public spectacle of the event, with muckety-mucks pronouncing "truths" and the clergy bleating the 23rd Psalm, etc.
Utah's firing squads are effective, but there's a lot of ceremony involved there also.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2010/jun/18/killer-executed-firing-squad-utah
 
Caper said:
I'm not saying I'm right... but it's funny how once you read what he actually did...... how little you care that he suffered a bit.
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This statement sums up my feelings best.

So he didn't get to fade off to sleep while prison staff sang him a lullaby? Cry me a river.
He laughed while Stephanie Neiman begged for her life and then buried her alive.
 
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I Ratant said:
Takes too long.
A proper hanging is over with very quickly, as is a decapitation.
Many of the problems in the past have been the insistence of the powers-that- be to make a public spectacle of the event, with muckety-mucks pronouncing "truths" and the clergy bleating the 23rd Psalm, etc.
Utah's firing squads are effective, but there's a lot of ceremony involved there also.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2010/jun/18/killer-executed-firing-squad-utah
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The video didn't show for me, but I read this linked article instead.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/jun/18/firing-squad-executes-death-row-inmate

Interesting. Apparently there were demonstrations against this particular means of execution, even though it was chosen by the condemned himself. And, as you say, a lot of ceremony and mumbo-jumbo. "Five skilled marksmen were selected for the shooting". To shoot a man at 25 feet? That probably requires a lot of skill. "One of the five rifles was loaded with an ineffective round, so the executioners couldn't know who delivered the fatal shot, thus lessening their psychological trauma." Presumably they had volunteered for the job, so what's the big deal?
 
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