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Border Security Poll...

Why do you think the US borders are still open for illegal immigrants?

  • The government wouldn't ever be able to, there would still be ways through, so why bother.

    Votes: 3 14.3%

  • It would be too expensive to build any safe fence or "virtual fence" for that matter. It isn't worth

    Votes: 1 4.8%

  • A combination of one and two.

    Votes: 12 57.1%

  • The Gov't WILL secure them, but it takes time.

    Votes: 2 9.5%

  • The CT way. NAU, neo-cons, NWO and whatnot.

    Votes: 3 14.3%
  • Total voters
    21
gumboot said:
There's no "I'm from outside the USA and could give a [rule8] about your stinkin' fence" option.

-Gumboot
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I want a "who cares if the US gets taken over by Mexicans, the world would probably be a better place for it" option
 
The border with Mexico should be closed...sealed...totally...no traffic whatsoever. I like to see something like a Berlin Wall. They won’t do it because the Mexicans on this side will riot and cause major problems.
 
MaGZ said:
The border with Mexico should be closed...sealed...totally...no traffic whatsoever.
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You might want to rethink that proposal, considering that the U.S. gets 15% of all its crude oil imports from Mexico. And that's not even mentioning all the other trade that crosses that border every day, both in terms of imports and exports.
 
MaGZ said:
The border with Mexico should be closed...sealed...totally...no traffic whatsoever. I like to see something like a Berlin Wall. They won’t do it because the Mexicans on this side will riot and cause major problems.
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Why doesn't that surprise me?

-Gumboot
 
Corsair 115 said:
You might want to rethink that proposal, considering that the U.S. gets 15% of all its crude oil imports from Mexico. And that's not even mentioning all the other trade that crosses that border every day, both in terms of imports and exports.
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You sound like a Republican. "Think of the economy!"

I’m a 'big picture' type of guy.
 
MaGZ said:
You sound like a Republican. "Think of the economy!"

I’m a 'big picture' type of guy.
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America will never be restored until it's only white people, will it MaGZ?

You should get rid of all those Africans and those filthy people who believe in wiccan too.

-Gumboot
 
MaGZ said:
The border with Mexico should be closed...sealed...totally...no traffic whatsoever. I like to see something like a Berlin Wall. They won’t do it because the Mexicans on this side will riot and cause major problems.
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You want a continuous wall, 3141 kilometres long, tall and strong enough to prevent anyone getting past, that would have to be continuously policed?

To what end?
 
MaGZ said:
You sound like a Republican. "Think of the economy!"

I’m a 'big picture' type of guy.
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You couldn't be more off the mark. I'm not even an American.

Blanket proposals are all well and good, but unless you like the idea of either higher gasoline prices in the U.S. and/or gasoline shortages, you're going to need crude oil from that neighbour to the south. The value of trade with Mexico, and the jobs created by that, are not inconsequential either. So unless you'd like there to be more unemployed workers in the U.S., trade with that neighbour to the south is of some significance.

The point of all this is to say there is often more than one way to tackle a problem. And ways that don't necessarily involve causing needless pain to oneself.
 
I think I can now concisely summarize MagZ's political philosophy very nicely:

Brown people in America = bad.
Jews anywhere = bad.
Brown people killing Jews = good*!

*Provided the brown people are nowhere near him.
 
gumboot said:
America will never be restored until it's only white people, will it MaGZ?

You should get rid of all those Africans and those filthy people who believe in wiccan too.

-Gumboot
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Yeah, get rid of them all, including those Native Americas. Then they can start on the Italians and the Irish and work their way alone untill there are only pure blooded Ayreans with blonde hair and blue eyes left. Then the world would be perfect, as long as they all agreed with him that is.
 
PhantomWolf said:
Yeah, get rid of them all, including those Native Americas. Then they can start on the Italians and the Irish and work their way alone untill there are only pure blooded Ayreans with blonde hair and blue eyes left. Then the world would be perfect, as long as they all agreed with him that is.
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Well any Aryans who don't agree with him are not real Aryans. They are traitors to their blood, and probably have tainted inferior blood from some filthy ancestor. So they don't count.

It's frankly sickening.

-Gumboot
 
parky76 said:
um....what about pressure from immigrant groups and big buisness?
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(Illegal) immigrant groups have no right to plead for amnesty or for open borders. Illegal immigrants are what they are, they have no right to be in here so it's the government's call on what to do with it.
Regular immigrant groups however its a different story and little bearing to illegal immigration legislature.. since they're.. you know, legal.

Now pressure from big business.. thats a conspiracy, ain't it. Because I do agree there's pressure from them. But whats their argument about? "Come on let us have sum illegals so I can abuse their labor and make more profit while firing out American citizens who don't want to work for 6 bucks or even less"?

The whole issue is based upon the premise that illegal immigration is overall bad for the country. And it's illegal. It's somewhat like drug smuggling. Would you see some smugglers pressuring congress to not stop them from building a fence? Or some Al-Qaeda operatives? I mean each one is a separate issue but the main idea in each is that they're illegal activities and should be stopped. One legal entity can't pressure congress to stop them from fighting it...

Unless youre thinking of blackmailing or buying off representatives; then you're talking about "CTs". Which is one of the choices.

I know you people love to derail this and make it a general "immigration issue", but let me say it again, it's frigging ILLEGAL immigration. I'm an immigrant myself and I have no bias hatsoever towards immigration. I think it's fine as long as it's not abused by anyone. Which in this case, it is. Quit patronizing how wonderful would it be a world with no barriers or fences. I quite agree with you, but this is not an applicable situation we're dealing with. Thousands of illegal immigrants are coming in everyday, and the big bucks are making use of it.

Either you think that this is an inevitable process or there's something going on. Pick your flavor and don't complain about it.
 
How do I vote for "We need illegal immigrants or our massive grey market economy will colapse and the inflation will destroy us all"?
 
gumboot said:
America will never be restored until it's only white people, will it MaGZ?

You should get rid of all those Africans and those filthy people who believe in wiccan too.

-Gumboot
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With the demographic changes in America I think we are heading toward something similar to a second civil war. America will break up into smaller nation/states formed along racial lines. Look for this to happen within the next twenty years.
 
MaGZ said:
With the demographic changes in America I think we are heading toward something similar to a second civil war. America will break up into smaller nation/states formed along racial lines. Look for this to happen within the next twenty years.
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Whatever you say, Mr. Manson.
 
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