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Bloomberg for President?

Skeptic Ginger said:
Not sure how you figure that. His ads tout his accomplishments.
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I’ve seen about 3 different ads, one of them hammers Trump with his lie about protecting coverage for pre-existing conditions. The other two are about His accomplishments. The attack ad ends with Bloomberg touting his protection of pre-existing conditions, so even so it’s not the most negative ad I have seen.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
Bloomberg is running an anti-Trump, not a pro-Bloomberg campaign. And he is spending literally hundreds of millions of his own money to do so.

Regardless of whether you want him to become President or not, some thanks are in order as far as I am concerned.
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1) Lets see how anti-Trump he is when Bernie gets the nomination. I'm gonna guess notsomuch and he'll likely run as an independent and hand Trump another term.

2) lolololol. Some guy with a wealth hording disorder decides to spend his spare change on a vanity campaign because he's annoyed that some other preening rich guy became president and he didn't and we are supposed to thank him. Seriously, the only thing billionaires deserve is to have their wealth nationalized.
 
Bloomberg has already offered to donate his staff to the eventual Democratic nominee regardless of who that person is.
Mike Bloomberg will pay for the nearly 500 staffers on his presidential campaign to continue working through November to support whoever wins the 2020 Democratic nomination, even if it's not him, NBC News reports. Why it matters: The former New York mayor is focused on getting President Trump out of the White House, and his vast operation — focused beyond the traditional early states — could provide a strong foundation in key battleground states, like North Carolina and Pennsylvania. NBC News
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Bloomberg is not stupid. He's from New York, he has seen first-hand what a train wreck Trump is. He seems to clearly understand the huge danger the U.S. faces with this idiot as president and that it will only get worse over time. A danger that transcends -- or at least should -- party lines and personal ambition. Good for Bloomberg.
 
newyorkguy said:
Bloomberg has already offered to donate his staff to the eventual Democratic nominee regardless of who that person is.


Bloomberg is not stupid. He's from New York, he has seen first-hand what a train wreck Trump is. He seems to clearly understand the huge danger the U.S. faces with this idiot as president and that it will only get worse over time. A danger that transcends -- or at least should -- party lines and personal ambition. Good for Bloomberg.
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Bernie will rightly tell him to piss up a rope. This is just a billionaire trying to buy influence. If he wanted to use his fortune to oppose Trump there is a whole universe full of ways he can do it without running for president and making a spectacle of himself.

The idea that billionaires are capable of solving our problems and that they are being selfless when they try (or act like they are trying) to do so is why Trump is in office in the first place.
 
Suddenly said:
1) Lets see how anti-Trump he is when Bernie gets the nomination. I'm gonna guess notsomuch and he'll likely run as an independent and hand Trump another term.
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yeah, let's see.

Bloomberg has my full support when it comes to sticking it to Trump and the Republicans.
I will withhold my support of his Presidential Campaign until after he is nominated.
 
Suddenly said:
Bernie will rightly tell him to piss up a rope. This is just a billionaire trying to buy influence. If he wanted to use his fortune to oppose Trump there is a whole universe full of ways he can do it without running for president and making a spectacle of himself.

The idea that billionaires are capable of solving our problems and that they are being selfless when they try (or act like they are trying) to do so is why Trump is in office in the first place.
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Bloomberg is not just a billionaire. He was mayor of New York City -- with more people than many states -- for 12 years after being elected three times. He took office immediately after 9/11 and had a lot to do with rebuilding the city. Despite criticism for "stop and frisk," he had a generally good record. He also created a multi-billion-dollar business from scratch, including inventing a new way to assemble and deliver financial information. He might not be the best candidate, and he might not win the nomination, but I wouldn't dismiss him with a sneer.
 
Bob001 said:
He was mayor of New York City -- with more people than many states --
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That's a very conservative understatement actually. 38 states to be exact. Quite a fact in light of how our demographics are impacting the Senate and Electoral College.
 
Bob001 said:
Bloomberg is not just a billionaire. He was mayor of New York City -- with more people than many states -- for 12 years after being elected three times. He took office immediately after 9/11 and had a lot to do with rebuilding the city. Despite criticism for "stop and frisk," he had a generally good record. He also created a multi-billion-dollar business from scratch, including inventing a new way to assemble and deliver financial information. He might not be the best candidate, and he might not win the nomination, but I wouldn't dismiss him with a sneer.
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So a business-friendly candidate who implemented racist law and order measures and who has helped concentrate wealth in urban centers by supporting a finance industry he directly profited from and that draws much of its wealth by seeing labor as a cost to be trimmed? For bonus points he saw himself as so important that he worked to get the law changed to allow himself an extra term. That's always good when people who think that way get a hold of executive power.

Be still my beating heart. Definitely just the man to lead the Democratic Party. I'm convinced. What in the world was I thinking.

Really, It is like someone took the worst things about Hillary Clinton and gave it a penis and a worse backstory.
 
Bloomberg is the perfect nightmare for Trump: he is richer, more successful and more respected.
Being told that someone is spending literally hundreds of millions of their own money without a blink must be incredibly scary.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
Bloomberg is the perfect nightmare for Trump: he is richer, more successful and more respected.
Being told that someone is spending literally hundreds of millions of their own money without a blink must be incredibly scary.
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As if it matters what scares an irrational moron. He's scared of stairs and exercise. Not other rich people. If anything, Bloomberg would be validating to him anyway.
 
Suddenly said:
As if it matters what scares an irrational moron. He's scared of stairs and exercise. Not other rich people. If anything, Bloomberg would be validating to him anyway.
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This. I've never seen Trump as having disdain for other rich people. If anything, it appears that he's spent most of his life desperately trying to win the approval of the ultra-wealthy New York elite types who always looked down on him for being the son of a low-level property hustler from outside of Manhattan. Someone like Bloomberg treating him as an equal, even in an adversarial capacity, is like his dream come true.
 
I've seen a new Bloomberg ad over the weekend. This one covering the environment. Like the healthcare ad it starts pointing out a Trump lie and going about Be policy from there.
 
As to Bloomberg specifically it's way too late (which is depressing since in any sane world the 2020 election campaign wouldn't even start for another few months but that's another topic) in this whole donnybroke for someone with no message beyond "Lookit me, I'm not Trump" to throw his hat into the ring.
 
JoeMorgue said:
As to Bloomberg specifically it's way too late (which is depressing since in any sane world the 2020 election campaign wouldn't even start for another few months but that's another topic) in this whole donnybroke for someone with no message beyond "Lookit me, I'm not Trump" to throw his hat into the ring.
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Not necessarily. When most candidates start "way too late," it means it's too late for them to raise money and build a campaign organization. MB has literally unlimited funds, and he already has hundreds of people working for him across the country. He's in a unique position to play catch-up.

And he's more than "I'm not Trump." He has a record as a successful three-term mayor of the nation's largest city, bigger than many states, and he has poured many millions of dollars into progressive causes, including fighting the gun lobby and supporting Democratic candidates in 2018.

And of course, he's not Trump.
 
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