Bioelectromagnetics
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Timble said:
"[...]The US National Academy of Sciences is refusing to release dozens of reports proposing or describing their development, even though the documents are supposed to be public records.
The academy is justifying its unprecedented reticence by citing security concerns after 11 September. But campaigners think the real reason is that the research violates both US law and international treaties on chemical and biological weapons.
The documents in question were collected in 2001 by a panel of academic and industry scientists set up by the NAS to evaluate recent non-lethal weapons research for the Pentagon's Joint Non-Lethal Weapons Program. The US took an increased interest in non-lethals after its disastrous peacekeeping mission in Somalia in 1993, when rioting civilians killed American soldiers.
The panel, whose report is due out later in 2002, collected 147 reports and proposals from researchers, many of them funded by the JNLWP. One group at Oak Ridge National Laboratory in Tennessee, for example, proposes using intense electromagnetic fields to produce effects "ranging from the disruption of short-term memory to total loss of control of voluntary bodily functions". Others propose directed energy weapons.[...]"
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99992254
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MRC_Hans said:
With respect, you may see it, Hans, but you don't present it. There have been many links, refs etc posted on this very thread which suport the claims of cogreslab. However, I have not seen any presented here which debunk those claims.
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MRC_Hans said:
"it"? Come on now, you have been given a large number of references from independant sources which clearly outweigh one biased FAQ.
Lucianarchy said:
If you knew anything about this topic you'd realise they're talking about vehicle mounted and/or hand held weapons for battlefield or riot-control use.
The ELF array is a communications system not some SF doomday device as you and Mr Coghill pretend.
Perhaps you could RV it and check this out?
Lucianarchy said:
If this is what you read then I have a serious problem with my English.
It's not that Roger Coghill questions some facts it's that he tries to fight the establishment( sic) by selling products of questionable efficiency that he hasn't tested in vivo.
Did you have some time to check the site of the PhoneShield people that quotes Coghill in order to sell a woo-woo object? Can Coghill guarantee that people won't believe the advertisment and they will start using their phone believing that they are protected by the woo-woo object he promotes?
What about that?
You know Luci if I lived in Wales in the local elections I would vote for Roger Coghill regardless the whole merchandise he is involved to. People won't die from his magnets and I like governments to be pushed about regulations.Mr. Coghill seems efficient in that. But today, while I was searching a way to contact his lab about the Atlantis CD--because I haven't heard from his sales manager yet-- I discovered that among other things he promotes necromancy.
Well. That is too much.
Having returned from the Royal Society meeting on the same train with Denis Henshaw I have confirmed with him personally the way in which the MRC decided to terminate his funding and tried to shut down his whole department. He tells me he has not seen any emails asking about this, but is happy to confirm the facts as I related them. The MRC's excuse (for those who wish to take up the matter with the MRC direct) is that although he gained alpha plus grading in their scale, they only had enough funding to finance eight of the 20 or so project applications. I take it this issue is now dead and I am accepted as having given the correct version of events?
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Timble said:
.... which are EM weapons.
Information about which appears to have been suppressed by the USNAS.
I am astonished to learn that I support necromancy, Cleopatra! I hardly know the meaning of the word. FTSOTR (for the sake of the record) I do not support necrophilia, necromancy, nor sadism, nor do they in way support me (though sometimes I wonder if I am flogging a dead horse on this forum) . As far as I know when we die we finish, but I will keep an open mind as usual, and not simply dismiss the possibility. So far I've not seen any direct evidence, except I hear that when you die you feel exceedingly stiff the day after. (This post attempt two jokes, btw).
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Cleopatra said:
With respect, Ms Cleo, it would perhaps do well for you to keep these things in perspective.
Well. it does now seem as if Dragon has confirmed that Moulder has altered at least one of his two websites regarding his statements about me. Thanks for that confirmation, Dragon. Can we please now get back to CF Larsen's more important and quite proper request that I support my view that Moulder's two sites are heavily biased in favour of the US Navy's interests? This is a job I have been meaning to do for some years, and it will be a long and detailed critique, because Mouder's sites are long and detailed, but worth it I think in the long run.
cogreslab said:
It's fine that you admit that you have shown no evidence whatsoever that Moulder's opinions are biased on behalf of the US Navy's interests. Yet another unsubstantiated claim from you.
But why would his opinions be biased, if he is not backed by the Navy?
I will take it off if you think that it is inappropriate. I just wanted to introduce the area of things like telepathy and energy transfer into the field of view, but maybe that was not the right site to start with. What do you think I should do?