Bioelectromagnetics

[cogreslab]

If you want to contact MRC I suggest you confront David Coggon there at Southampton with my allegations. I will be interested in his response, and will have more to say about him anon. Actually i am minded to bring his action to Court, but that's another issue.

It is about time this whole disgraceful saga got into the open and to show how the establishment has been covering up the EMF issue for decades.

 

[BillHoyt]

If you want to contact MRC I suggest you confront David Coggon there at Southampton with my allegations. I will be interested in his response, and will have more to say about him anon. Actually i am minded to bring his action to Court, but that's another issue.

It is about time this whole disgraceful saga got into the open and to show how the establishment has been covering up the EMF issue for decades.

Right, then. No evidence to support the allegation. Next?

 

[cogreslab]

To Cleopatra: I have not dodged your question about the Phonedome. I answered it completely.

 

[cogreslab]

To BillHoyt: You have thre opportunity of verifying my allegation via the MRC direct. That is the strongest support one could ever ask for. Go and check it out.

 

[Darat]

If you want to contact MRC I suggest you confront David Coggon there at Southampton with my allegations. I will be interested in his response, and will have more to say about him anon. Actually i am minded to bring his action to Court, but that's another issue.

It is about time this whole disgraceful saga got into the open and to show how the establishment has been covering up the EMF issue for decades.

From this I take it you have resolved any issue you had about understanding the JREF rules about naming people and possible libel issues.

Therefore please give me the name of the Professor at Bristol University name so I can contact him.

Thanks

 

[Marian]

To BillHoyt: You have thre opportunity of verifying my allegation via the MRC direct. That is the strongest support one could ever ask for. Go and check it out.

You assert on your site that you have done studies.

Where have those studies been published? If they have not been published where is the study data publically accessable (through you).

Otherwise I can say I've done studies that demonstrate the complete opposite. No you can't see them, ask Bill about it. But I'm not saying that, as it would be untrue.

You claim studies...I would like to see said studies, and your "among other things" evidence that you tout on your site.

 

[cogreslab]

To Cleopatra: The question of morals. I say that the NRPB are without morals not me.

 

[BillHoyt]

To BillHoyt: You have thre opportunity of verifying my allegation via the MRC direct. That is the strongest support one could ever ask for. Go and check it out.

You made the claim, you provide the evidence. You've thus far made the claim and then used the libel rules as a ruse. That was called. Then you provided us ways to check it out ourselves, though we asked you to name the professor. Ruse. Ruse. Ruse.

 

[Upchurch]

Please provide evidence for the existence of these commercial enterprises in Hahnemann's time.

Please provide evidence for the existence of a scientific establishment in Hahnemann's time.

Please provide evidence for the existence of (presumably medical) "drug cartels" in Hahnemann's time.

Please provide evidence for the scientific acceptance of homeopathy in our time.

But please also take this discussion elsewhere, as the topics here center around this advocator of infanticide, his claims and, of course, his product lines.

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[CFLarsen]

If it is the truth, it can't be libel, can it?

Correct. In this context, it is very interesting that it was Roger who brought up the subject of libel....

 

[MRC_Hans]

Excuse me, but on the side of a cell-phone (practically all cellphones) facing the user is the display and the keyboard. How do you read the display and operate the keyboard through a fine metal mesh inside a stylish leather casing . Edited to add: And why does a one-shilling piece of metal mesh sell at nearly 40 quid? Must be some fine leather casing.

*snip*
Hans

Perhaps you have been busy, but I would like to see an answer to the question above. Perhaps I should clairify it:

I agree that a metal mesh might yield some attenuation of the EMF field from a cell-phone, although the effect of a floating grid is somewhat dodgy. However, to have any useful effect, it must be placed between the user and the transmitter, which means that it must be placed so that it covers the display, speaker, and keyboard area of the typical cellphone. How do you then operate the equipment?

Second question: The production price of a small piece of metal grid and a leather casing is at most a couple of pounds. Don't you think your profit margin is a tad steep?

Hans

 

[BillHoyt]

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Wow, incisive skeptical questions reported as "personal attacks." Gotta love it.

 

[BillHoyt]

Correct. In this context, it is very interesting that it was Roger who brought up the subject of libel....

Uh-huh, but bluff is being called. Remember UCE and Blackmore? Redux.

 

[Lucianarchy]

Correct. In this context, it is very interesting that it was Roger who brought up the subject of libel....

No. Cogreslab brought up the subject of EM risks and the bias within the scientific establishment.

You, and Lil'Bill, otoh, are a pair of obsessive pedants who brought their own psychological and personality disorders into the forum. Don't you get it yet? You are both nuts. You'd both rather split the hairs of a shrew's scrotum than advance science with honesty and integrity.

 

[drkitten]

Wow, incisive skeptical questions reported as "personal attacks." Gotta love it.

Don't be any stupider than you have to be, please. Re-read the final paragraph of the relevant post, where someone was being accused of advocating criminal behavior.

Heck, that's libel per se. You're lucky you aren't joining WooWu on the banned list.

 

[Upchurch]

Re-read the final paragraph of the relevant post, where someone was being accused of advocating criminal behavior.

I'm obliged to protect the identity of the poster who made the report, but yes, the "advocator of infanticide" comment was specifically pointed out.

 

[Upchurch]

But please also take this discussion elsewhere, as the topics here center around this advocator of infanticide, his claims and, of course, his product lines.

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