Bestiality

[toddjh]

Ok, this is a sick thought, but why do we care whether the animal consents? Do we ask for consent before we kill and eat it? Surely that is worse that what is suggested in this thread.

I was going to say the same thing, but you beat me to it. Consent is a non-issue for animals. We don't require their consent for anything else -- if we did, my cats would never go to the vet.

Jeremy

 

[Crossbow]

Does anyone have a problem with consensual bestiality, and if so, why?

Of course not!

When I was married, I had consensual sex with wife and only later did I find out just what a big dog she was.

 

[Jon_in_london]

Bestiality has really gone to the dogs. Incest however, is still a game the whole family can play.

 

[Skeptical Greg]

There are different types of bestiality, and your question doesn't really indicate what type you're talking about.

I'm not sure we want too much clarification on the matter, though.

Let us know just before we have had ' too ' much...

 

[epepke]

Does anyone have a problem with consensual bestiality, and if so, why?

Well, I wish I could figure out a way to stop Bosco the Undifferentiated Terrier from trying to lick my penis when I come to bed. Does that count as opposition?

 

[Skeptical Greg]

Re: Re: Bestiality

Well, I wish I could figure out a way to stop Bosco the Undifferentiated Terrier from trying to lick my penis when I come to bed. Does that count as opposition?

I think this is what scribble was talking about..

 

[fhios]

Ok, this is a sick thought, but why do we care whether the animal consents? Do we ask for consent before we kill and eat it? Surely that is worse that what is suggested in this thread.

Actually, isn't this a pretty good arguement for vegetarianism? If we think that animals have enough ability to percieve pain and humiliation to be victimizable by rape, then mustn't we assume their ability to percieve the tragedy of their own deaths and/or those of others?

 

[wraith]

....another top quality thread here....

 

[athon]

I'm into astronecropyrobestiality personally. That's when you go into space, set a dead animal on fire and make sweet love to it.

NASA has rejected my astronaut application for some reason...

My friends and I had a game in highschool where we would try to string together as many different prefixes to see who could come up with the longest '-philia.

I came up with necrobeastipedapodapyroaphelia - the love of setting fire to dead, baby animal's feet.

Or substitute in '-phobia'...whatever.

Athon

 

[daenku32]

What about the people who's job is to extract semen from animals?

They do it by hand don't they. With humans this would be considered a sexual act..

 

[Keneke]

My friends and I had a game in highschool where we would try to string together as many different prefixes to see who could come up with the longest '-philia.

I came up with necrobeastipedapodapyroaphelia - the love of setting fire to dead, baby animal's feet.

Or substitute in '-phobia'...whatever.

Athon

Naw, the best was pedonecrobeastiality....doin' dead puppies.

 

[scribble]

What about the people who's job is to extract semen from animals?

They do it by hand don't they. With humans this would be considered a sexual act..

Interesting point. They do do it by hand. It's not a particularly sexual experience by any means, though - even the animal on the receiving end doesn't usually seem to be very into it.

 

[Dorian Gray]

Interesting point. They do do it by hand. It's not a particularly sexual experience by any means, though - even the animal on the receiving end doesn't usually seem to be very into it.

Are you sure you aren't anthropomorphizing based on the responses from your own sexual partners?

sorry about that

 

[Skeptical Greg]

Interesting point. They do do it by hand. It's not a particularly sexual experience by any means, though - even the animal on the receiving end doesn't usually seem to be very into it.

You seem to be well informed about this.. Can you expand?

 

[sorgoth]

Pyronecrophilia - Doing the ashes.

"But...it's so warm !"

 

[El Greco]

I've seen a documentary where they were taking semen from an unconscious lion by electrically stimulating the prostate.

If you are going to use the masculine properties of an animal isn't consent necessary ?

 

[scribble]

You seem to be well informed about this.. Can you expand?

I've some experience with taking sperm samples for breeding animals. They're fascinating under the microscope. Sperm counts and other health checks are just as important for breeding animals as for a breeding human.

I don't know what you'd like to know about it. The animals I've had experience with ejaculate with only minor stimulation.

Edited to add: I assure you it's all very clinical.

 

[scribble]

I've seen a documentary where they were taking semen from an unconscious lion by electrically stimulating the prostate.

If you are going to use the masculine properties of an animal isn't consent necessary ?

Ouch!

"Er, excuse me, Mr. Lion, do you mind if I just stick this cattle prod up your butt?"

How do you get consent for that?

I assume it's just like the sort of thing I'm talking about. Were they having breeding issues with this lion? In any case, it sounds like a clinical process, not a sexual one.

 

[Bikewer]

Years ago, we took the kid to see a "birds & bees" documentary that was highly touted.

They showed footage of a fellow whose job it was to collect bull semen.
They built a facsimile "cow" on a wheeled frame, covered with cowhide, and dosed with appropriate pheremones. The bull would dutifully mount this contraption.
The collector sat inside with a large (like LARGE) tube with a sheet rubber thingy over the end.

When the bulls rather large member came into the framework, the guy would slap the tube over the thing, and hopefully collect a full load.
Some job.

 

[Ratman_tf]

If the animal initiates the act, then clearly it consents to the act.

Then why is satutory rape illegal?