BBC's Horizon on The Bible Code

Nucular you star! Thanks for the responses (see Luci, THAT'S how its done - Q&A's are so much easier when you answer them)

Isn't the "sufficiently advanced" theory also the same one put forward by Hancock in regards to the pyramid measurements and the "message" contained within it? Ihave to say that I found that an even biger stretch than the bible code. Hancock crossed a while back between researcher and loon.
 
Summerisle_Lord said:
I think the best prediction made is the world "might" end in 2006. If it doesn't Michael Drosnin will claim he warned us in time to prevent it !
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I would like to get hold of Mr. Drosnin's e-mail address so I can propose to him that I will give him the entire contents of my bank account today, in return for him giving me his entire net wealth on 1st January 2007.
 
If he were to agree, I foresee only 50% of that transaction coming to pass. I'm sure he would insist that the wprld had come to an end and he was unable to complete the second part of the transaction
 
When the first Bible Code book came out, I wrote a small program to search arbitrary texts for strings. This was on VAX/VMS, so I used the Rdb database system help manual as my document. I found "Kennedy", "Dallas", and "shot" within a few characters of each other, in about ten seconds. My conclusion is that every book in the world prophesied JFK's assassination. Damn, the FBI must have been really sleeping on the job.
 
uneasy said:

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In the interest of "balance", kooks from both sides are brought forward.

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One of my pet peeves is the obsession of the media to ensure they always present a "balanced view". This is ridiculous PMism!

I expect the media to be unbiased but unfortunately many parts of the media seem to think “unbiased = balanced” :mad:
 
Isn't hebrew written without vowel? If it's the case, then obviously it will be much easier to find "codes" in the hebrew version than in the english one.
 
ZouPrime said:
Isn't hebrew written without vowel? If it's the case, then obviously it will be much easier to find "codes" in the hebrew version than in the english one.
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Correct; it means that you can find much more impressive-looking words. For example, a seven-letter word like "Kennedy" is not all that easy to find, but "KNND" will turn up hundreds of times more often. (Obviously the relationship between original word length, vowel-less length, and frequency will be different between English and Hebrew, but the same principle applies).

I'd be interested in seeing how many times the Hebrew equivalent of a word such as "disingenuous", or indeed any other pentasyllabic word, turns up. Or are we meant to believe that the authors of the Bible, while able to predict the future, did so only in the literary style of Ernest Hemingway ?
 
max said:

The BBC also left out an important interview that Drosnin conducted with the chief scientist at the Israeli Ministry of Defence, who confirmed that he had been shown the prediction that Yitzhak Rabin would be assassinated a year before the event.
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Some logic: IF ancient Hebrew texts predicted the assassination of Yitzhak Rabin, then the future is pre-ordained and prayer is useless. i.e. God has already planned the future and written those plans down, so prayer can't change anything....

On the other hand, I predict that any Israeli politician who makes unpopular concessions to the Palestinians is likely to be assassinated....
 
patnray said:

On the other hand, I predict that any Israeli politician who makes unpopular concessions to the Palestinians is likely to be assassinated....
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Yes, but that's also pre-ordained... as is, logically, your message. And this one. In fact John Allen Mohammed couldn't help it, it was pre-ordained that the Beltway victims would die. As will he, bwahahahaha.
 
Sounds like it - in particular, the fact that Moby Dick got exactly a 2-minute mention.
 
anachronym for you all ..... Bible..=.....Basic Information Before Leaving Earth:D :book: :bgrin:
 
A point that has not been brought out here so far is that Rips is a mathematician. The Bible 'Code' needs an understanding of statistics. They are very different disciplines, indeed the determinism of a mathematician may make him absolutely unqualified to deal in statistics.

Other readers may be interested to know that the Brendan McKay who appeared in the programme is party to an attempt to make the homeopaths face validation;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/h2/h2...do.bbc.co.uk>&board=science.headlines&sort=Te

Please cotact him and the BBC board to support his effort.
 
Oh No, Kumar has turned up there! And as he is posting as "Kumar V", I rest my case that he's "Kayveeh" from homeopathyhome.

These guys on the BBC board are hopeless. They need to go away and do some serious reading before they stick their necks out. Like, don't they know that all the "provings" of "like cures like" are done on ultradilute material, so you can't now separate the concepts?

Get in there and sort them out, Lost Boy. Now. :D

Sorry just blowing off here 'cos I can't be bothered to emulate Kumar and join up on the BBC tonight.

Edited to add: Damn board's closed. They don't like insomniacs or antipodeans, obviously. I don't think I'm going to be able to help myself tomorrow....

Rolfe.
 
Lost Boy said:
A point that has not been brought out here so far is that Rips is a mathematician. The Bible 'Code' needs an understanding of statistics. They are very different disciplines, indeed the determinism of a mathematician may make him absolutely unqualified to deal in statistics.
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And even if he were a statistician, that doesn't mean others will agree with him.

There is a vocal minority of dentists who claim that fluoride harms teeth, and another minority of researchers with PhDs who (still today, I think, certainly a few years ago) claim that the HIV virus doesn't cause AIDS. I'm not saying they are necessarily wrong, either, but it seems there is very little in science that *everybody* who is "qualified" to talk about it, agrees upon.

And then you have Dr. Andrew Wakefield in the UK claiming that the MMR virus causes autism, and "he's a doctor, so he knows, and all the other doctors who say he's wrong are part of the conspiracy" (of course, the other doctors are specialists in virology and immunology and autism, and backed up by statisticians, and Wakefield is a gastro-enterologist, but for the media, he's "A Doctor Who Dares To Speak Out Against The Establishment", not "Someone Who Has Made A Mistake But Doesn't Know How To Back Down" (although it seems he is back-pedalling quite hard these days).

I like "Always get a second opinion; 50% of doctors graduated in the bottom half of their class".
 
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