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Avoiding Win 11 and staying with 10

I've never quite understood the urge to change things just to change them, but this happens all the time. Camera menus are much the same - just a little change here and there without any change of function. Windows XP used to have a keyboard shortcut to shut down that was [window key] ,u,u. Then for some reason they changed it to [window key and X together],u,u. In Windows 11, not much is really changed, but nothing is where it used to be. And for some unaccountable reason, they narrowed the scroll bar on windows to about half its previous width, making it damned near impossible to pull down easily.

I'm reminded of a passage in a book I read long ago by an illustrator who often did advertising art, who found that managers can't stand to accept a thing as it is, and must take charge by changing something. So as not to mess his stuff up, he said he would always put in one glaring error that the manager could take credit for correcting. (Alexander King, an amusing writer if not a very reliable witness).
 
Why does Microsoft produce win 11 in a way that lots of computers cannot run it. Do they get paid by hardware manufacturers to make it necessary to get a new computer? I for one am not going to get a new computer for as long as possible because the one I have is perfectly good for my purposes. It runs streaming video and films with no problems.

As for the lock feature, I viewed it with extreme suspicion, and have been scared to click on it in case it locks my computer..
 
This is kind of funny (odd funny). I just tried to enroll for the Windows 10 Extended Security Updates and it failed with the message:

We can’t enroll you in Extended Security Updates right now ...​

I tried a few more times with the same result.

Then I consulted Google and someone suggested turning on "Find My Device" in Windows settings. It is hard to imaging why that would be necessary, but it was easy to try so I did it.

And it worked. I have now successfully enrolled for the ESU.
 
Scorpion said:
Do they get paid by hardware manufacturers to make it necessary to get a new computer?
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No, it makes it easier for them and corporate buyers by increasing the security of the PC, and corporate buyers are their biggest market segment.

Of course an exploit was found so it's probably worth checking your BIOS is up to date if you have an older PC\Laptop
 
Wudang said:
MS have released an emergency fix for the WinRE issue
www.bleepingcomputer.com

Windows 11 KB5070773 emergency update fixes Windows Recovery issues

Microsoft has released an emergency update to fix the Windows Recovery Environment (WinRE), which became unusable on systems with USB mice and keyboards after installing the October 2025 security updates.
www.bleepingcomputer.com www.bleepingcomputer.com
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Maybe the forced download is why my laptop seized up AGAIN just this morning. It happens about once a month -- everything just stops. Then I have to do a hard reset and hope I didn't lose any work.
 
A taskbar that won't un-hide after you let it autohide gets really annoying.

(I don't look at this thread much but I searched and didn't find a previous mention.)

On both my Dell home laptop (Win 11 from new) and HP work laptop since going to Win 11 the taskbar regularly fails to reappear when I mouse to the bottom of the screen. I thought a quick online search would find innumerable other sufferers but no, there seem to be bug complaints about autohide not activating at all or activating when it's switched off but my problem of the taskbar not reappearing seems to be rare. Yet both machines do it.
 
PS Today I Learned:

If your taskbar won't appear, <Alt>+<Tab> brings up all open apps and browser pages as tiles you can select from. Or you can hold <Alt> and tap <Tab> to step through them to the one you want.

Everyone else probably discovered this twenty years ago but <shrug>. Today I learned because Microsoft's bug made me.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
PS Today I Learned:

If your taskbar won't appear, <Alt>+<Tab> brings up all open apps and browser pages as tiles you can select from. Or you can hold <Alt> and tap <Tab> to step through them to the one you want.

Everyone else probably discovered this twenty years ago but <shrug>. Today I learned because Microsoft's bug made me.
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I learned about it back in my early Everquest days because I would have multiple game instances open. I use it for absolutely everything.
 
jimbob said:
It gets better*

Previous version of outlook, if you want to alter the general settings, you click on "file, options" if you want to set the conditional formatting for messages, you get to them from the "view settings" option. In the new version you use the same "view settings" option for all settings.
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It gets better still.

The new outlook doesn't have the "insert symbol" option, so you are forced to either use the character map or use the alt keys. Which is fine for me with a proper keyboard, but the laptop keyboard version is a pain that I had never needed to learn until now
 
Jack by the hedge said:
PS Today I Learned:

If your taskbar won't appear, <Alt>+<Tab> brings up all open apps and browser pages as tiles you can select from. Or you can hold <Alt> and tap <Tab> to step through them to the one you want.

Everyone else probably discovered this twenty years ago but <shrug>. Today I learned because Microsoft's bug made me.
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I use that often. But mostly when my laptop freezes up about once a month. At that point I can't tell if it's just slow processing something, the mouse battery has died, or it's downloading the monthly update (which is often the case, I think). So if Alt/Tab doesn't bring me to another window, I know it's cacked and I have to do a hard reset and restart.
 
jimbob said:
It gets better still.

The new outlook doesn't have the "insert symbol" option, so you are forced to either use the character map or use the alt keys. Which is fine for me with a proper keyboard, but the laptop keyboard version is a pain that I had never needed to learn until now
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Or just stop trying to insert symbols into emails. If it's important business information, there's probably a dedicated platform for it. And if it isn't? Why bother?
 
jimbob said:
It gets better still.

The new outlook doesn't have the "insert symbol" option, so you are forced to either use the character map or use the alt keys. Which is fine for me with a proper keyboard, but the laptop keyboard version is a pain that I had never needed to learn until now
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Could Power Toys Quick Accent do any of that? I have a vague memory of possibly tweaking a copy of it to do something.
 
theprestige said:
Or just stop trying to insert symbols into emails. If it's important business information, there's probably a dedicated platform for it. And if it isn't? Why bother?
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I'm an engineer, and it's something that is very easy in the previous version of outlook.

Yes I could write a report, but often email is the most efficient communication method. And seeing familiar symbols, like Å, μ, ε, or Ω, is the easiest way to communicate something without causing confusion
 
jimbob said:
I'm an engineer, and it's something that is very easy in the previous version of outlook.

Yes I could write a report, but often email is the most efficient communication method. And seeing familiar symbols, like Å, μ, ε, or Ω, is the easiest way to communicate something without causing confusion
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Efficient, but not definitive.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
PS Today I Learned:

If your taskbar won't appear, <Alt>+<Tab> brings up all open apps and browser pages as tiles you can select from. Or you can hold <Alt> and tap <Tab> to step through them to the one you want.

Everyone else probably discovered this twenty years ago but <shrug>. Today I learned because Microsoft's bug made me.
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You might also try Ctrl+Escape which pops up the start menu, but also (at least on my boxes) pops up the taskbar.
 
Seems like (as usual) the windoze users are having to 'learn new ways of doing things' anyway lol

I on the other hand have gone through several decades of Linux use without having had to learn a single new way of doing the same tasks lol

How strange, the one thing that windows users claim is its biggest advantage seems to not be the case at all.....
 
bruto said:
If you can get the taskbar to appear at all, you can right click it and get the taskbar settings, which might give you what is needed.
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You can also get to Taskbar settings by opening the Settings app (available from the Start Menu) and type Taskbar in the search field. You get the same settings as right-clicking on the Taskbar.
 
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