Avoiding Win 11 and staying with 10

[Hlafordlaes]

Winaero is a must-have, Classic Shell is one way to get Win95-Win7 menus back. In short, there are myriad tools and registry hacks to make Win11 indistinguishable from Win10, using even earlier UI elements.

 

[Wudang]

Because Win 11 buys you nothing and if anything is worse (for ex. how in File Manager, you have to click "more options" to see common options now)?

Yeah that pissed me off. Stupid tweak making assumptions (IMHO) about what operations users use right-click for.
Anyway I fixed that and a couple of other minor things with Winaero.

 

[Darat]

Because Win 11 buys you nothing and if anything is worse (for ex. how in File Manager, you have to click "more options" to see common options now)?

Yeah that pissed me off. Stupid tweak making assumptions (IMHO) about what operations users use right-click for.
Anyway I fixed that and a couple of other minor things with Winaero.

By File Manager/FM I'm assuming you are meaning "File Explorer"? If so which common options aren't on the first right-click menu in File Explorer?

 

[Wudang]

By File Manager/FM I'm assuming you are meaning "File Explorer"? If so which common options aren't on the first right-click menu in File Explorer?

My Win11 desktop isn't available to me right now as SWMBO has commandeered the study but from memory for me, various zip tools, Notepad++ etc. I wonder if it was done to speed up the often slow right-click response as a windows box crufted up. I wish they'd adopt OS/2 style file association.

 

[plague311]

Because Win 11 buys you nothing and if anything is worse (for ex. how in File Manager, you have to click "more options" to see common options now)?

There are a lot of things that Win11 gets that are really nice. Tabbed File Explorer is at the top of my list. I didn't realize how much I'd love it but when I'm transferring data or working on multiple items it comes in very handy.

There are certainly things that I don't like starting with the settings menu, but overall I really don't get all the fuss. It's seriously not that different and almost everything is customizable even without a shell program. Anyone not switching because of the cosmetics and is willing to sacrifice getting security updates after October just because of a few menu options certainly isn't making a very wise decision.

 

[Darat]

The longest rightclick menu is when I do it on an image file. (And yes OS/2 did it all better!) The first image below is the default menu,
the second is the "...more" options one.

 

[Wudang]

Latest Win 10 update has added a new embuggerance to the lock screen. If you see widgets like weather, video etc appear on your lock screen, go to Settings -> Personalise -> Lock Screen -> "Choose one app to show status on the lock screen" and the default seems to be a greyed cloud icon "Weather and more". Select None.

 

[Ron Obvious]

Latest Win 10 update has added a new embuggerance to the lock screen. If you see widgets like weather, video etc appear on your lock screen, go to Settings -> Personalise -> Lock Screen -> "Choose one app to show status on the lock screen" and the default seems to be a greyed cloud icon "Weather and more". Select None.

Thanks! I just noticed that this morning. I could swear I've already turned this off at least once before, but it was back this morning. I don't get "Personalise" under settings, but right click on the display, display settings and typing "lock" in the edit box takes you there too.

I hate crap like that!

 

[dudalb]

God, this is a repeat of the ' WIndows XP vs Windows Seven" fuss a few years back.
But in the end, every Windows version will go to the Island of Dead OS systems.
Of course you have the whole retro computing craze to contend with.

 

[theprestige]

God, this is a repeat of the ' WIndows XP vs Windows Seven" fuss a few years back.
But in the end, every Windows version will go to the Island of Dead OS systems.
Of course you have the whole retro computing craze to contend with.

Seriously.

Pinning yourself to a particular consumer OS edition is a fool's errand.

Change is inevitable.

 

[commandlinegamer]

By File Manager/FM I'm assuming you are meaning "File Explorer"? If so which common options aren't on the first right-click menu in File Explorer?

If I remember rightly, early versions of Windows 11 didn't show Cut, Copy, Delete and possibly one or two others in the main part of the context menu and you needed to click More Options to access those. Now they are available (the top line), presumably from a more recent update.

 

[plague311]

If I remember rightly, early versions of Windows 11 didn't show Cut, Copy, Delete and possibly one or two others in the main part of the context menu and you needed to click More Options to access those. Now they are available (the top line), presumably from a more recent update.

I always thought they showed but rather than being words, the options showed as those stupid symbols. I could easily be wrong though.

 

[JimOfAllTrades]

I always thought they showed but rather than being words, the options showed as those stupid symbols. I could easily be wrong though.

That was my memory as well, but I didn't upgrade from 10 right away so they may not have shown in the earliest release and I just didn't see it.

I did (and do) hate the icons, but at least now they're labeled. But if you're going to label them why not just lose the icons and stick with the labels?

Overall, though, my switch to 11 was pretty painless. And I think it does perform slightly better on the same hardware I was running 10 on.

 

[jeremyp]

Nobody here worried about the feature that takes a screenshot every three seconds so that Microsoft can do AI stuff with it? It’s currently opt in but how long will that last if MS learns how to monetise it?

Or the fact that MS really wants you to go to a subscription licence model.

 

[Wudang]

Thread 'Microsoft CoPilot and recall concerns'

Jun 5, 2024

https://www.computing.co.uk/news/42...rity-concerns-about-microsofts-recall-feature

More technical article by a security guy
https://doublepulsar.com/recall-ste...r-own-windows-pc-is-now-possible-da3e12e9465e

Article by Stross
https://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2024/06/is-microsoft-trying-to-commit-.html

tl;dr - it takes periodic screenshots and stores them unencrypted on your PC. I know the NHS would scream at this and I assume many other places that require security of data. And it...

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[Darat]

Nobody here worried about the feature that takes a screenshot every three seconds so that Microsoft can do AI stuff with it? It’s currently opt in but how long will that last if MS learns how to monetise it?

Or the fact that MS really wants you to go to a subscription licence model.

If I upgrade my PC to one that supports Recall I might check a bit more to understand where, what and how the data is processed.

Microsoft moved to a subscription model over a decade ago, had to quickly check the exact date and it was 2013 so a dozen years ago.

 

[Wudang]

You'll find details in Charles Stross' article in the link above. He was a tech writer before SF and he has tons of credibility in my view though it's potentially outdated.

 

[Darat]

You'll find details in Charles Stross' article in the link above. He was a tech writer before SF and he has tons of credibility in my view though it's potentially outdated.

That's from when it was originally announced, it's been changed since then.

 

[arthwollipot]

Microsoft moved to a subscription model over a decade ago, had to quickly check the exact date and it was 2013 so a dozen years ago.

Just like everyone else.

 

[Skeptical Greg]

Microsoft moved to a subscription model over a decade ago

For the OS? Isn't that what is being discussed?