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Automatic Drawing

What specifically is your claim, Lance? To determine how to specify your claim in acceptable terms I refer you to the Challenge Application, point #1.

How do you intend to prove it? This means excluding all other possible explanations in your demonstration.

What would you call a successful demonstration of your ability, what would you call a failure?
 
No coherent claim, no proper application, babbling galore on part of Lance Katcher.
Enough happening for ya? ;)

I guess I was confused because of Randi's emails that were posted. I had the impression they were finding someone for the test regardless of the other bunk.
 
it would be nice if Randi or his assistant jumped in these threads to confirm/deny things like this once in a while :cool:
 
it would be nice if Randi or his assistant jumped in these threads to confirm/deny things like this once in a while :cool:

If you need verification, feel free to inquire directly: challenge@randi.org

I agree with you, osmosis, a more transparent handling of the Challenge activities would be desirable, but it seems the JREF simply has their hands more than full.

Hence, I refrain from inquiring about every other would-be applicant although curiousity plagues me often. :)

Experience suggests that serious applicants will surface sooner than later. Most applicants - or wanna-be applicants - usually fade away quickly; see: Dargo, Mental Professor, Peace Crusader, Renee Rynn, Gerald Epling (bassett), etc.
 
Wait a minute.....

Was this really from James Randi ? "We’ll find a representative in the area who will test you to fill in a drawing."

I am an artist. Even sell some !!
It is quite a common talent to look at a shape, close your eyes and fill in that shape.
This is simply your brain seeing the clear outline after you have closed your eyes. If that's a test for the paranormal, then I'm in !!

I haven't done this for several (12 or so) years, but I'm sure I could practice in time for the challenge.....

This cant be considered a serious test, right ?
 
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I suspect Lance wouldn't be shown which page of the coloring book he's to fill-in ahead of time. And, if this is real, my guess is Mr. Randi just wants to get it over with quickly. It would seem to be very easy to test and analyze if, say, a bunny were drawn over the outline of a house.
 
I don’t recall specifically Lance’s claim or if there was much of a protocol for him. But “Astral”Girl if you’re eyeing the MDC, please read the new rules at http://www.randi.org/research/challenge.html .
#12:
First, he/she must have a “media presence,” which means having been published, written about, or known to the media in regard to his/her claimed abilities or powers. This can be established by producing articles, videos, books, or other published material that specifically addresses the person’s abilities. Second, he/she must produce at least one signed document from an academic who has witnessed the powers or abilities of the person, and will validate that these powers or abilities have been verified.
 

Lance, if I may be so bold as to ask you a personal question, have you ever been diagnosed with schizophrenia? I'm not a doctor and I don't even play one on TV, but it seems to me that you have some classic symptoms of the disease.




Schizophrenic perhaps, my sympathies I hope your delusions clear up in short measure. :(



Agreed. It seems like it's getting stalker like.

I have yet to see anything except "abstract" art that is as good as a paint by numbers book.

The JR response sounds about right. It's art, nothing paranormal about that.

Well now I know why schizophrenia immediately came to mind.

I have no idea what you meant by that, and I suspect you don't either. So a word of advice: Don't post when stoned, OK? You will regret it.

Lance, don't take this the wrong way, but you really sound like someone who needs professional help. My friend, you're in the wrong place, talking to the wrong people.

I strongly suggest you go see a psychiatrist and tell him/her what you've been telling us, that you talk to spirits whom you believe are inhabiting your body. Tell the shrink that the spirits are doing the drawing, not you.

This is very important. Seek help.


Lance. Slow down. Learn to write. Use periods. Take your time.

BTW, I couldn't log in using the name and password given. I'd like to see your art for myself.

You don't have a paranormal claim.

Why are you here?

You don't even begin to have a paranormal claim.

Ignore the people here who are either talking way outside their area of expertise, or simply insulting you. I have no idea what the "stalker-like" remark was supposed to mean. I see little evidence of something like schizophrenia. As of this date, there are two other posters on this board who strike me as schizophrenic, and you're not one of them.

Maybe you're making stuff up.

Maybe you are a little manic, or autistic, or have some form of epilepsy, or are simply idealistic or eccentric. You don't have a claim.


Enjoy making your art, keep practicing, and if you succeed in making good art, you'll know it, because people will start to make appreciative comments about it. You can make it the center of your life. It can be the most important thing. But why try to make a claim?

Again, enjoy.

Why stick around here and be insulted?
 
I don’t recall specifically Lance’s claim or if there was much of a protocol for him. But “Astral”Girl if you’re eyeing the MDC, please read the new rules at http://www.randi.org/research/challenge.html .
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You spotted that as well. Rules changed on April 1, his application "signed" for on May 9.

I think the first email back from JREF would have been more like, "Thanks for your application. When you are famous, don't call us, we'll call you.".
 
lance forgive me if this sounds rude but i don't understand how you can have such mastery over the English language and yet have no idea whatsoever how to punctuate For example let me introduce you to the period it looks like this "." and it's used to end sentences See most people end one sentence before starting the next that way it's easier to understand what they are saying Communication is not only about the sounds but also the pauses between the sounds and when we write we use punctuation to show that so could you please try that in the future, thanks



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by Googling Lance's name, I was able to get the updated password and see the drawings, and his picture.

All the pictures that I could see were abstract, mostly color with a few black and white.

I like the black and white #041.

In some cases, there is a lot of detail, but not of a representational kind.
All abstract.

For curiosity, it would be interesting to see the less abstract drawing.

No idea what's going on, but it ain't paranormal.

Lance, ever hear of Neil Cassady?
 

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