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Auras

Demonstratable Aura

I have no problem detecting auras around myself at work. At my watchmaker's bench, I have a very expensive piece of equipment called a Witschi Q-6000 (yes, it's pronounced "witchy"), used to troubleshoot quartz watch movements. Among its various functions, it has a capacitive sensor that allows you to place an unopened LCD-display watch on the test pad and determine the rate without actually having to connect anything to the movement itself, which would change the loading on the circuit and thereby alter the timing. I've discovered that I can rub my palms together a few inches away from the pad and the "signal" light will illuminate.

Actually, its reading the static electricity I'm generating by friction. Still, it's an aura or field generated by a biologoical organism. The trick works better in winter, when the air is dry, but it works even on rainy days by just getting closer to the pad. Of course, the best reaction is when I pull the paperwork from inside the vinyl job pouch -- you can get a flash from two to three feet away.

The point is that living things generate electrical fields, either electrostatic or through biological processes. What do you think an electrocardiogram or electroencephalogram is recording? The problem is the signal-to-noise ratio. The modern world is swamped with electronic noise, from the AC line hum to radio stations to noise generated by motors, light dimmers, etc. Anyone who could see the faint field generated by a person would be in the situation of trying to see a half-dead firefly perched in the center of a bank of arc lights.

Regards;
Beanbag
 
There's an early electronic musical instrument called a theremin that works by sensing the capacitance between an antenna and the musicians limb/body and using that to control the frequency of a radio oscillator. To play one you just wave your hands around near the antennas, one for pitch and the other for volume.

Of course, that's just basic Maxwell's laws, (roughly speaking) an electrostatic phenomenon. Nothing mysterious or mystical about it, nor anything special about living tissue.
 
Aumgn, what would it take for you to change your mind? One of the things that makes so many of the discussions here end up going in circles is there is no clear direction. Would it ever be possible to make you think twice about Reiki and Auras?
My “belief” in Reiki and auras is tied in with and, with Reiki, built upon, personal experience; thus they are not opinions or based upon blind faith or irrational postulations, and will not change easily.

1/ Are the auras visible all the time? (yes/no)
Almost all the time. The only time that I either absolutely cannot see the aura or have difficulty perceiving it is after I consume large amounts of meat, especially red meat, which has a grounding effect and thus reduces my body’s energetic vibration level enough that for some reason I can’t see the hazy glow as well.

2/ What effects the size of the aura?
One of the main ideas of holism is that all life is connected. The aura has more than two layers; while seven layers is the widely accepted (“woo-woo”) number of layers, it is likely, according to holistic thought, that the layers, which are increasingly hard to detect the more you get away from the body, extend to infinity; thus the “how” of the assertion that we are all connected. Note that this is my interpretation. As far as what I can see, I have noted that of all the etheric auras I have looked at, mine is the most visible, I presume because I am the healthiest and probably most spiritually advanced of those whose auras I've seen (and therefore have a stronger aura than most); this is in accordance with holistic thought which holds that a key factor determining the strength (and therefore visibility) of the aura is one’s health. The ways of getting and keeping a strong aura and thus good health have been covered in many books about auras; the main points that anyone can do include eating a balanced diet, exercising regularly, not smoking, drinking, or generally abusing your body – which are largely commonsense health tips – as well as remaining emotionally balanced (having a cheerful disposition helps).

3/ If someone stood behind a screen the same height as themselves, could you see the aura above the screen? (yes/no)
Theoretically (I’ve never tried it). I might test this out.

Make this test: Look at your hand and watch the 1inch "aura". Now look at some person who is, say, 20 ft. away. If the "aura" was real, you would only see it as very thin, but it still looks 1inch thick, because it only exists on your retina.
Tried it on my hand then my cat. No, it does not still look one inch thick, it is proportional to the size of my cat in my vision. I know what afterimages look like, and I know that what I’m seeing is different than that.

Only makes sense if you believe in Reiki woowoo .
“Belief” in the efficacy of Reiki is not a requisite of giving or receiving it. Reiki works independently of one’s beliefs. Were I to give one of you fine fellows a treatment, you would still benefit from it (and resulting from more than just the “relaxation” or whatnot inherent in the treatment’s dynamics). Regardless, the girl’s diagnosis of my aura, green and purple, made sense as I was in a “peaceful” sort of mind (or whatever similar emotional state green can/does represent) and was in a spiritual or psychic or whatever you’d like to call it mode in which I had manifested, as the Amazing Randi says purple represents or is held to represent, “psychic ability and occult power,” or something like it. I acknowledge the possibility she was lying about her knowledge of auras, but after getting a good judge of her personality and overall knowledge of such spiritual matters I have ruled this out as being anywhere near probable.

1) No normal person has a problem seing the red part of the spectrum, so why should it suddenly be a problem with auras?
Perhaps because auras are outside the normal range of human vision. I don’t know enough about the logical explanations for auras or the electromagnetic spectrum to really defend this point. I simply put two pieces of information together: 1) it is common knowledge among holists that blues are perceived first, reds last, and 2) the colors she confessed to being unable to see were reds and oranges, which, in tandem with her purported ignorance of aura dynamics, convinced me that her confessed ability to see colors was authentic. The electromagnetic spectrum bit was my own interpretation of why this happened; if that explanation is fallacious then so be it.

Randi mentioned some time ago that anyone can see an aura around any object. This is caused by eye fatigue, which leads presumably to a distortion of the lens which seperates the colors of light as they enter the eye much like a prism. So no, I do not doubt you have seen what you call auras, I merely disagree that it is some kind of internal energy
If anyone can see an “aura” around any object, mustn’t all auras necessarily then be the same? As in, no differences in “luminosity”? Because I have observed that my aura is more “luminous” than most auras of people I’ve met. How would that, assuming my observations are correct, be explained by the eye fatigue hypothesis?

to rationalize a belief in a failed healing art such as Reiki.
Can I ask why you say Reiki has “failed” as a healing art? If it is all bunk, wouldn’t it be unable even to succeed or fail, because it wouldn’t then be a healing art at all?

But are you perfectly sure? Have you had your eyes checked recently? So you went to Reiki, and out of the blue you start seeing "things" or "auras". My first thought would be to go have my eyes checked, have you done this? If my vision was fine, and then it changed, and in this case as it would seem quite significantly, then this would be the first thought to cross my mind, not that I had some new special ability.
I have had my eyes checked (at least at an optician) since I began receiving Reiki treatment. I do not have 20/20 vision and have not had it since I was younger; but I have no known vision defects other than slight nearsightedness most likely inherited genetically. I did not start seeing the etheric layer of the aura “out of the blue” – the ability developed over time, catalyzed by the energetic “opening” associated with and spiritual evolution precipitated by my numerous Reiki attunements, and helped along with my once-regular practice of auric vision exercises. But with the subject of the efficacy and dynamics of Reiki we venture perhaps too deep into “woo woo”-land for the comfort of my skeptical fellows.

Aumgn- I assume you will appreciate that there are two fundamental mental approaches to this issue:
As "mundane" explanations are ruled out one by one, some people will be increasingly convinced you are describing an unknown or unexplained phenomenon.

People of a different mindset will be increasingly certain that you are either deluded or deliberately lying.

Most regulars at this site fall into the second group. You are aware of this. So don't be dismayed if some of us are brusque or dismissive. We would be astonished, but fascinated if your ability had some grounding in fact. We will not, however, believe it without hard evidence.
If you can produce such, we will be happy to see it.
I completely understand where the skeptic is coming from, and view the skeptical method as a legitimate one for testing the validity of seemingly outlandish claims. I do not expect anyone here to believe me outright. Due to the limitations of our means of communication and my present inability to gather such hard evidence, all I can really do is recount what has led me to the conclusions I hold regarding auras, and hope to stimulate some meaningful discussion about possible causes of my personal experiences alternative to the ones I posit. The most I can ever hope a rational but open-minded skeptic can say as a result of the assertions I make and information I put forth is, “Well if he is being truthful, and if what he says is accurate, then there may be something worth further investigating.” I don’t fault anyone for saying what they do; I am rather happy with the way discussion is going so far, and can say that I expected worse treatment. ;)

One question. You say you can see the aura in the dark. Does it illuminate things? Can you, for example, read by the illumination?
No, it cannot illuminate anything, at least given the present state of my aura and my ability to perceive it.

You've made two completely testable claims here. No need for debate, no need for theory, no need for any further information - just do some testing.
I concur. Unless a reply to my responses merits answering, I will hold off posting further until I’ve done some testing and posted the results.
 

My “belief” in Reiki and auras is tied in with and, with Reiki, built upon, personal experience; thus they are not opinions or based upon blind faith or irrational postulations, and will not change easily.


Your "experiences" are tied to your irrational postulations and faith. If you really think you can see aura and that Reiki works, feel free to apply for the JREF million. I doubt that you will, because like many others.. you are afraid to place your beliefs to the test. You are afraid to admit that you are deluded or have been tricked.

Can I ask why you say Reiki has “failed” as a healing art? If it is all bunk, wouldn’t it be unable even to succeed or fail, because it wouldn’t then be a healing art at all?

It's failed because it doesn't work. There are no clinical trials that support the notion that Reiki works any more than placebo effect. It's not a healing art at all, true. It's quackery.

I concur. Unless a reply to my responses merits answering, I will hold off posting further until I’ve done some testing and posted the results.

Yea, then after you "succeed", apply for the JREF million.
 
aumgn: My “belief” in Reiki and auras is tied in with and, with Reiki, built upon, personal experience; thus they are not opinions or based upon blind faith or irrational postulations, and will not change easily.

thaiboxerken: Your "experiences" are tied to your irrational postulations and faith. If you really think you can see aura and that Reiki works, feel free to apply for the JREF million. I doubt that you will, because like many others.. you are afraid to place your beliefs to the test. You are afraid to admit that you are deluded or have been tricked.
I'd like to suggest some caution here, Ken. I have seen nothing in aumgn's posts that indicate the fears you ascribe. I know we have seen this in others before, but may I suggest it is premature to accuse aumgn of such fears, or to stereotype him based on other "claimants".

In fact, I'd like to say that I'm impressed with aumgn's demeanor in this thread and he does not deserve to be treated with disrespect.

That's not to say I agree with the metaphysical claims aumgn makes. I've heard them all before, since they are mostly mainstream New Age stuff. Aumgn has made several testable claims, and I would like to suggest that they be tested and leave the editorializing for later.
 
I doubt that augmn will be applying for the JREF million. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.
 
xouper said:
I'd like to suggest some caution here, Ken. I have seen nothing in aumgn's posts that indicate the fears you ascribe. I know we have seen this in others before, but may I suggest it is premature to accuse aumgn of such fears, or to stereotype him based on other "claimants".

In fact, I'd like to say that I'm impressed with aumgn's demeanor in this thread and he does not deserve to be treated with disrespect.

I second the motion. Aumgn has conducted his/herself admirably so far, and there is no reason to be rude.

They have presented their claims, read the replies, and stated that they will perform proper tests. Really, what more could you ask for?
 
aumgn said:
My next question, for those who do not acknowledge the existence of an aura around the human body, would be how would one explain "auric vision"? Many people have described seeing a hazy outline extending about an inch from their hand or some such body part.

This is pretty simple. Get a shield of some sort, maybe a piece of cardboard, to cover the body part. For extra fun, get some people to hide behind some shields but not others, such that you don't know beforehand who is hiding behind what shield. If you see something, then you're seeing something real. If you don't, then it's an artifact of the visual system.
 
I would like to tell a story about reiki.

My mother had been sick with multiple sclerosis for about 20 years. One of the people we employed to care for her was Marian.

Marian was of the opinion that all my mother needed was proper nutrition, a chakra tuneup, and reiki.

She gave it her all, hummed all over my mom's room, waved her hands here and there, bought nutritional supplements. My mother was thriving, all would be well.

My mom died May 28, 2002.

Marian came to the funeral and told me she'd felt my mom's essence, then gave me a card with Sylvia Brown's website on it.

This is why I hate reiki.
 
aumgn, thanks for answering my questions. Below follows a couple more.


http://www.netasia.net/users/truehealth/Kirlian Photography.htm

In effect, a single person can come up with different auras simply by changing finger pressure and the amount of moisture found in his or her skin. The more moisture there is, the larger and more colorful the auras are.

Why does aruas become more colorful when the skin is more moist?

Also from that article:

If a photograph is taken in a vacuum, where no ionized gas is present, no Kirlian image appears.

Why does auras seize to exist in vacuum?


About Randi's challenge, I sincerily advice you to be take it. If auras really do exist, then the rest of humanity needs to know. If you fail the challenge, you will know that your ability is self delusion, which would be an important step for you to realize, though I'm sure you can think of some kind of excuse for failing. People always fail, and always come up with excuses afterwards. ;)
 
I'm with Xouper. Of course we mostly believe Aumgn is mistaken or deliberately lying, but from his (her?) general demeanour, I am assuming the former.

I still urge him to see an eye specialist- a prescribing optician may be unable to detect underlying neural conditions by ocular inspection. I would hate to think this is an undiagnosed condition which we fail to recognise. Also, consider the possibility the the auric exercises themselves may be damaging your eyes, and so causing the effect.

There is something to be learned here, either for Aumgn, or the rest of us. (Again, I think the former, but let's wait and see.)

One inconsistency in Aumgn's comments is about the colour of the aura. (I apologise if I misread you here) Is the aura colourless or not? If it is colourless, how do you see it in the dark? Do you "see" it (as we do light), by reflection off objects or do you see it as a glowing area around the source? If the latter, is it reflected off objects at all? (Hold a white sheet of paper close to the aura. Does it shine? View the paper through crossed polarising lenses- (two old polaroid lenses will do) Is the reflection polarised? Is the source polarised? Try photographing any reflected aura. When you look at an aura round a person, is it brighter where it is thickest (ie looking along the side of the body), or is it fainter? Does it cast a shadow?
Are there any Kirlian photos from above, or below a person?

Like others, I feel there is much that must be nailed down here about exactly where and how this phenomenon manifests itself.
I do not expect Aumgn to have all the data, but perhaps someone else has?

I suspect if Aumgn genuinely examines the effect , he will find there are other explanations, but I'll be interested to hear further reports.
 
The only time that I either absolutely cannot see the aura or have difficulty perceiving it is after I consume large amounts of meat, especially red meat, which has a grounding effect


That would be ground meat then?

Sorry, too bad to resist.:D
 
Posted by aumgn
Almost all the time. The only time that I either absolutely cannot see the aura or have difficulty perceiving it is after I consume large amounts of meat, especially red meat, which has a grounding effect and thus reduces my body’s energetic vibration level enough that for some reason I can’t see the hazy glow as well.
Ummm would you care to go into a little more detail here? How does red meat have a grounding effect on your bodies energetic vibration level. What does that even mean?

Perhaps because auras are outside the normal range of human vision.
So then you would consider yourself as having extraordinary human vision because you can see auras? Is there any theory on what the physiological differences between normal and extraordinary auric vision are?

I guess my main concern is just how completely convinced you are in what it is you are experiencing. Have you ever taken it upon yourself to try and find instances, or experiments where you think your ability might fail, as a further means of convincing yourself its actually what you believe it to be? For small example the comment about red meat having a grounding effect on your vibrational levels, have you ever seriously considered that statement, or what it might mean, or how you could possible test it? To me it seems quite an extraordinary statement to take so casually.
 

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