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Audio books vs. "Real" Books

Walter Ego

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Any opinions on audio vs. print as a way to experience literature? I do listen to audio books and have my own take on the subject but would like to hear from some others before I chime in but to get the ball rolling, having someone else, live or on mp3, read a book to you cannot substitute for the act of reading it yourself. Listening, to state the obvious, is not reading.

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Oh dear, that sounds a bit puerile and painfully obvious but I'll let it stand. :o
 
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It has some advantages:

You can hear how unfamiliar words are pronounced.
You can rest your eyes if you've spent the day reading at work.
You can listen while doing something else with your eyes.
Some readers add dramatic touches and interesting voices.

I wouldn't try to listen to anything serious though, such as a textbook. That demands too much skipping around, re-reading sections, and pausing to think.
 
I like all books, the ones I tend to read are gardening, stained glass, cooking. These books need re-reading for directions and such. :D

However when I go to bed I like audio books, I really do enjoy the the sound of someones voice reading especially if they have wonderful expression. :gasp:

The "Mercury Theater" headed by Orson Wells did some great storytelling pre-TV. Some of these can still be found on free audio book sites. :crowded:

Some of the sites are very xtian orientated, but look around for yourself. :footinmouth

http://www.librarianchick.walkerhost.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Main_Page

You can always download a podcast or 2 from this very site, I find some great listening and useful information and no xtian claptrap. :dig:
 
Any opinions on audio vs. print as a way to experience literature?
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painfully obvious but I'll let it stand.
Audio books are one of too few ways to use valuably the time driving a car.

And a great way to give rest to your tired eyes at home, have a book while lying on bed with your eyes closed, instead of straining your already tired eyes in dim lamp light all evening.

Audio books are usually shortened and simplified versions, they are a compromise that doesn´t say exactly what the author intended to say.

With an audio book it is more difficult to stop or slow down marveling at the meaning or entertaining excellence of a specific phrase.
 
They seem like a really great idea, but for some reason I just can't get into them. I don't know why, but every time I have tried to listen to an audio book I have got bored and stopped after a short while.
 
OP: Audio books are excellent; they don't replace reading for yourself, but they provide a whole new world of enjoyment I think.

Having lost all reading vision ten years ago (I have some useful peripheral vision), I have quite a few opinions about audio books!:) The thought of not actually reading took a moment or two to come to terms with, but the first thing I did was buy a CCTV which meant I could read ... but slowly of course. This, I quickly realised, was not such a disadvantage as I thought it would be, as I found that in some ways I enjoyed the book more, having taken longer to read and think about the characters and settings. Similarly with audio books, I found I got more out of them really ... I was always a fast reader - I used to try and read Terry Pratchett's books more slowly, so that I could extend the enjoyment, but found it very difficult!

The voice of the reader is very important. Some read so well that you don't hear the voice, you hear the story (for example Diana Bishop and Richard Dawkins - it's a pity he only reads his books and the new 'Origin of Species'). Some try to act it as a play, which is really infuriating - I'm not reading a play, I'm reading a book for goodness Sake! Some voices are so mellifluous that you forget the text and hear the voice!

Audio books are one of too few ways to use valuably the time driving a car.

And a great way to give rest to your tired eyes at home, have a book while lying on bed with your eyes closed, instead of straining your already tired eyes in dim lamp light all evening.
The difficulty here of course is that you fall asleep and then have to try to find where you were! This is much easier with cassettes but of course they're being phased out.
Audio books are usually shortened and simplified versions, they are a compromise that doesn´t say exactly what the author intended to say.
Sometimes it's all you can get, and the unabridged ones are much more expensive, but libraries usually get full versions eventually, so I have learnt to be patient and wait! I use a Daisy Reader from the NLB (National Library for the Blind) and they often use volunteer readers, and do not, as far as I know, do abridged versions. They have a wide range of titles.
With an audio book it is more difficult to stop or slow down marveling at the meaning or entertaining excellence of a specific phrase.
Yes, this is a definite disadvantage, especially if it's a book which has several threads running through it and there is no indication at the beginning of a new section which character is being talked about.

There are a few times when I have not been able to continue with a book because of an irritating, set-your-teeth-on-edge reader, but I have also set up a new routine for myself for the last two and a half years. I have two readers every week (and a young student who comes during her university holidays). This means only a short part of the book each week, but it has proved to be a really excellent way of having access to all sorts of books. They each come for an hour each week.
I've tried listening to some things with synthetic voices, but have not yet found a way of enjoying this way of listening.
 
Love them. Love reading. Love listening too. Audio books have been particularly useful to me personally for several reasons.

  • When migraines have laid me low an audio book helps me not get stressed with boredom while the migraine keeps me lying down in a darkened room.
  • Working out. Yes music is great too, but sometimes I feel the time is better spent getting my literature on. (Or podcasts. Podcasts are good too.)
  • Doing the motherloving dishes. Well, cleaning generally. O, Terry Pratchett (and Tony Robinson) how you have helped keep my house inhabitable.
  • Having a bath. When the third copy of Persuasion ended up soggy compost filler, I realized that me + reading in the bath ^= True. The moment I start to relax, Jane Austen goes the way of the scold. Docking the iPod beats dunking the Austen.
  • Commuting. I don't drive, this would be public transport, so yes: this is also a good time for reading an actual paperbook and I do that too, because the audiobook is not a book. It's a complement, not a replacement. But, sometimes a poor night's sleep will give the edge to the audiobook. The stiff neck can be rested instead of bent over the book and should I fall asleep, the mp3 player alarm wakes me five minutes before my stop. (Or more if there are delays. Trust me, it's never early though.)

Then my very personal and particular reason for liking the audiobook. I have problems with auditory processing. Not my hearing, just in taking in auditory information. (Probably a stress thing.) My hearing is actually beyond excellent, I can hear sounds I'm not supposed to hear (apparently) but when people start talking at me I freeze and afterwards I can't remember what they said. (This frustrates bosses who like to talk, and don't like written evidence that the instructions they gave really were that vague and/or stupid. It also means that anything that requires doing things over the phone literally breaks me out in a sweat.)

I have handled this in a few ways. One: I can take very small amounts of written instructions and figure things out on my own, and I have become a master of backwards engineering - both tasks and conversations. This, however, takes loads of brain resources and it's not really time efficient to constantly re-invent the wheel. Two: I request all instructions to be written down (which, in a work environment they really should anyway, because in my business documentation is KING. Three: I take copious, verbatim, notes, even in casual situations because apparently whatever stops the flow from ear to brain, does not stop the flow from ear to hand. I then read my notes and lo: the information is there. (It's just like how I can't catch a ball if I know it's coming.) (This also frustrates the hell out of bosses, as they can't get away with "not remembering" stuff from meetings where I was present. In some ways, this handicap has become a strength at work, as everything is well documented. It is however tricky in social situations where people often mistakenly think I'm being rude. It has required a whole other set of coping skills.)

The fourth, and most important way of handling this is PRACTICE. And audiobooks provide a useful exercise where I'm not running the risk of a socially embarrassing lack of idea what was just discussed. It's just between me and my iPod whether I remember what happened in the last chapter or not.

Also. Despite my auditory shortcomings, I have a thing for voices. Speaking voices, not singing voices. I simply like to hear human speech around me, even when I'm not really listening, which is why I usually go to sleep to an audiobook. (And with ear phones instead of speakers you can't hear things go bump in the dark, which is good when you are afraid of the dark, despite being all grown up.)
 
I listen to audiobooks while doing otherwise mindless, repetitive tasks like weeding or cleaning. I find there are authors whose works I can listen to, but can't slog through on paper - Terry Pratchett and Charles Dickens (who wrote at a time when reading aloud in a family circle was common), for example.

The narrator makes a big difference. I'm partial to male narrators since they tend to have lower-pitched voices, which I find more understandable. The woman narrating my current listen, Northanger Abbey, sets my teeth on edge and gets in the way of the story.

I occasionally pick up the Teaching Company courses at the library, but the quality of the lecturers varies a lot.
 
I listen to audio books all the time because I drive a lot and it is pleasant to read rather than only listen to music or radio programs.

First, never bother with those abridged books. Honestly, I don't get it that someone decided for broadcast media people had an [X] minute attention span for a story. Absurd.

Second, it can totally depend on the reader. The Harry Potter series has the best reader ever. Lots of readers are fine, once in a while I get quite bugged by a male reader faking a female voice. I don't see why they feel the need. I wish they would just read the dang book. Now with the Harry Potter series reader, that guy was great at voices and it added, not detracted from the reading.

And sometimes a reader is so monotonous I just can't bear the book. I wish the producers recognized the reader matters.

But for the unabridged books with decent readers, audio books are wonderful!!!!!

Our library carries an excellent supply and now Kindle has audio books for download. I'm in heaven.
 
They seem like a really great idea, but for some reason I just can't get into them. I don't know why, but every time I have tried to listen to an audio book I have got bored and stopped after a short while.

Try a different reader or a different kind of book, or consider when you are choosing to listen. I don't think I could listen to an audio book when reading was an option. The rest of me would want something to do. But when I'm driving, or walking the dogs, or mowing the lawn, a nice book in the ear is a pleasant distraction.

And there are plenty of books, audio or read that after a chapter or 2 I don't finish. So again, maybe you tried books you would have stopped reading as well.
 
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Audio books are the ideal time killer for long road trips. That's the only time I listen to them, however.
 
First, never bother with those abridged books. Honestly, I don't get it that someone decided for broadcast media people had an [X] minute attention span for a story. Absurd.
BBC Radio 4 have 'Book of the Week' and 'Book at Bedtime' and these are almost always abridged versions - an exception was 'Salmon Fishing in the Yemen' because it is fairly short anyway ... well worth listening to by the way! There are some books I've heard this way that I've then tried the unabridged versions of, but the bits they left out were much better left out! I can't remember titles though, I'm afraid!
Second, it can totally depend on the reader. The Harry Potter series has the best reader ever.
Completely agree - He maintained the voices throughout the series and they weren't overdone
Lots of readers are fine, once in a while I get quite bugged by a male reader faking a female voice. I don't see why they feel the need. I wish they would just read the dang book.
Agreed.
And sometimes a reader is so monotonous I just can't bear the book. I wish the producers recognized the reader matters.
If I find this in a (professionally published, but not in 'Talking Books' from NLB read by volunteers) audio book, then I ring up the company and tell them. I find they seem interested but of course do not know if they think twice about asking said reader to read another book!:)
But for the unabridged books with decent readers, audio books are wonderful!!!!!
I subscribe to the CD version of 'New Scientist' (produced by 'Talking Newspapers') and read by volunteers. I have in this way listened to all sorts of articles on things I do not understand at all, but listening to them - while having lunch, washing up, etc - I find very interesting and hope that a word or two remains in my brain! I feel I am keeping my mind working by listening to them!
 
Try a different reader or a different kind of book, or consider when you are choosing to listen. I don't think I could listen to an audio book when reading was an option. The rest of me would want something to do. But when I'm driving, or walking the dogs, or mowing the lawn, a nice book in the ear is a pleasant distraction.

And there are plenty of books, audio or read that after a chapter or 2 I don't finish. So again, maybe you tried books you would have stopped reading as well.



In every case they were books that I really liked once I read them, and were read really well. There was just something about that particular medium that didn't work for me. I'm very much a visual person. Having said that I think your point about context is a great one. I will have to try while driving or something, as I think that will make a big difference.
 
I listen to audiobooks while I'm driving, working out or doing yardwork. I think it's a fine way to make use of otherwise unproductive brain time. I also like to read regular books and my new Kindle also. As others have said, the audiobooks aren't the best for absorbing complicated material, but they are great for thrillers and sci-fi that doesn't require absolute concentration.
 
@ the OP: I find value in both. I do a lot of fairly monotonous work (listing all of the fossils found in a given unit, for example), and auidobooks are a great way to block out all of those things which would otherwise distract me. Typically I use nonfiction for this (Chesterton, Adam Smith, things like that; tried Kant but had to stop because Kant was wrong and I wanted to prove it, which wasn't condusive to my work). At home I'll also listen to them while playing a video game--TV annoys me most of the time, and at least with audiobooks I can choose ones which don't.

Real books have their place as well, though. I'm currently kicking myself because I left a reference book at home, and I could use it today (don't need it, but it'd be nice to have). My copy of The Origin of the Species is getting somewhat annotated, which is hard to do in audiobooks. And frankly I come from a family that values the aesthetics of having shelves of books, which you can't get in audiobooks. The other problem with audiobooks is that it's someone reading a book--meaning that you have the problem of good readers and bad readers. Librivox.org has some great readers (it's one reason I like Chesterton, I think--the guy reading his works is perfect, particularly with the often very dry humour Chesterton uses), and then.....not so much in some cases (Dante's Divine Comedy, for example; one reason I avoid their philosophy books is because the readers are horrible; then again, sometimes you get what you pay for).

For anyone interested in contributing to audiobooks, Librivox.org is pretty much always looking for volunteers. They do purely public domain books, use an entirely volunteer cast, and let you listen to the books for free.
 
I think it could be good if the author of poetry were to read their original works.

That way you could hear nuances in things like tone, inflection, and timing- which may help further one's understanding and appreciation for the imagery trying to be conveyed.
 
I think audio books are a wonderful idea. Some of my best memories as a child are of being read to, by my parents and teachers in elementary school. I didn't start to enjoy reading until I was a teenager, but being read to gave me the opportunity to really enjoy a good story well told. Sitting with an audio book brings some of that feeling back.

I also have great memories of sitting with my roommates on a rooftop in India reading The Thousand and One Nights to each other. There is something wonderful about reading, but having the words read aloud with emotion is an entirely different experience with it's own value. With some books I still enjoy reading aloud to myself to bring some of that experience out.
 
I really like audiobooks in two situations: driving, and working. When on a long car trip, nothing passes the time like listening to a good book. When working, though, I have to pick books that I'm very familiar with, or else I find myself paying too much attention to either the book or my work. With a book I know, I can focus on work when need be and pick the trail of the book back up without missing anything.
 
They seem like a really great idea, but for some reason I just can't get into them. I don't know why, but every time I have tried to listen to an audio book I have got bored and stopped after a short while.

Me too, I have difficultly concentrating after a while. Long car trips are an exception, as was a tape of Tom Sawyer I had as a little kid.

If you enjoy audio books normally I don't see why you couldn't listen to "literature" audio books.
 

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