Assistance required for telepathy proof

[oody]

Hello golfy. I have a story. 40 years ago when I was in sixth grade, once at a friend's house we played with his set of Kreskin's ESP cards. As I recall, there were about 40 cards the size of regular playing cards with matching backs, and the fronts were of ten types: five were circles filled with different colors and five were graphics: star, heart, checkmark, etc. As my friend held them up, one by one, I tried to "see through" the backs of the cards and tell my friend what they were. After I made each guess, he would reveal the card by placing it face-up on the table. I got nearly all of them correct through a full deck! I was quite surprised. As this would have been around 1968 or 1969 and I was eleven, even though I was surprised it didn't seem earthshaking to me.

In the subsequent weeks, I got my own Kreskin's ESP game set and was never able to duplicate those results. Looking back, I think that maybe I could have been subconsciously seeing the reflection of the cards in my friend's eye. But I've never felt certain. And in the past 40 years, I've never experienced a similar phenomenon. What do you think?

 

[AdMan]

Looking back, I think that maybe I could have been subconsciously seeing the reflection of the cards in my friend's eye. But I've never felt certain. And in the past 40 years, I've never experienced a similar phenomenon. What do you think?

I know you asked golfy, but in my view it's probably more likely that you are misremembering things.

Human memory is notoriously fallible, as well as malleable. Each time we go over a memory in our minds, we are shaping it. Forty years of doing that is a long time, so even if the memory is very clear in your mind, the event itself could have actually been very different from your memory of it--for instance, you could have gotten a much lower number correct than what you are remembering.

Just my $0.02.

 

[golfy]

If you smeeeeeellllll what the Sledge is cooking!

Got an answer to my question, golfy? Anyone would think you were dodging it for some reason.

I answered it under your question. This is why I rarely answer you as when I do you don't even understand that it is an answer or don't understand the answer.

golfy

 

[Hitch]

I think I have the perfect protocol for Golfy.

Throw out his amateur GSR doohickey... get a professional polygraph operator with the device he makes his living using. Pick any random subject for Golfy to send to and hook them up to the machine. Ask the subject, "Can you hear Golfy's thoughts?"

If they say yes, test done. Golfy has proved that he can transmit thoughts.

If they say no, ask the polygraph operator if he's telling the truth. If the operator says, "No, the subject is lying" then once again Golfy is proved right.

If the polygraph operator says, "Yes, he's telling the truth" everyone will know that the operator is wrong and he's just proved his machine is worthless. Everyone will know, because everyone can hear Golfy's thoughts.

This puts the polygraph operator on the spot. He can't cheat Golfy and cause him to fail without ruining his own career.

It's simple.

As long as we're sure that everyone can hear Golfy's thoughts. Of course, if no one can, that might put a different wrinkle on things.

 

[jsfisher]

[never mind]

 

[Sledge]

I answered it under your question. This is why I rarely answer you as when I do you don't even understand that it is an answer or don't understand the answer.

golfy

Let's take a look at that again. My question:

If we're all conspiring against you, why would the IPCC be any different?

Nice to see the Sledge back with his comments. The IPCC is a procedural establishment who must follow protocol. If there is a way of proving a case then they must endeavour to follow that direction. They can of course dismiss my claim as per the dispensation request. I will wait for their answer.

golfy

That doesn't answer my question, golfy. You claimed everyone is conspiring against you. If that's the case, why would the IPCC not be in on this conspiracy?

 

[golfy]

I don’t care if they are involved or not as long as their procedural obligation gets me a telepathy test with the officers involved. I am not going to sue the IPCC but sue the officers involved. After all I can’t prove anyone can hear me categorically unless they admit to that fact and demonstrate that they can or they are subjected to a telepathy test.

If I decide not to accuse a particular body of anything then they are innocent untill proven guilty. I have no need to prove anyone guilty if they are helping me prove that the Police involved are guilty. What am I going to do – accuse them of a cover up if they agree to giving the named officers a telepathy test. No, I am going to continue with the test, prove that my accusations about those particular police officers was correct. It is immaterial to me if the other people in the test room can also hear my thoughts as I am not accusing them of anything.

golfy

 

[Sledge]

That doesn't answer my question, golfy. You claimed everyone is conspiring against you. If that's the case, why would the IPCC not be in on this conspiracy?

 

[Agatha]

What were your accusations against the police officers?

 

[Akhenaten]

I don’t care if they are involved or not as long as their procedural obligation gets me a telepathy test with the officers involved.

There's no such thing as a telepathy test. Much less is there a procedure in place anywhere by which anyone might be forced to undertake one.

I am not going to sue the IPCC but sue the officers involved.

For what?

After all I can’t prove anyone can hear me categorically unless they admit to that fact and demonstrate that they can or they are subjected to a telepathy test.

There's no such thing as a telepathy test. If there was, you wouldn't have needed to start this thread, would you?

If I decide not to accuse a particular body of anything then they are innocent untill proven guilty.

That's big of you. Perhaps you'd be better off publishing your Theory of the Golfycentric Universe (TGU) than pursuing this catship nonsense.

I have no need to prove anyone guilty if they are helping me prove that the Police involved are guilty.

No, your responsibility (to yourself) would be to establish the credibility of those assisting you. Your adversaries will take care of demonstrating the remote possibility that someone might be making stuff up.

What am I going to do – accuse them of a cover up if they agree to giving the named officers a telepathy test.

There's no such thing as a telepathy test. Nevertheless, you will almost certainly accuse anyone refusing to submit to one, or refusing to force others to submit to one, of a cover up.

No, I am going to continue with the test, prove that my accusations about those particular police officers was correct.

What test? What accusations?

It is immaterial to me if the other people in the test room can also hear my thoughts as I am not accusing them of anything.

golfy

You started off accusing the world at large of lying about being able to hear your thoughts and have now apparently modified that idea such that people can be divided into threee groups.

• Your antagonists, who are all lying
  
  
• Your supporters, who are telling the truth. (this group doesn't seem to have anyone in it)
  
  
• Everyone else who, according to the TGU, don't count, even though a subset of this group is going to award you a million dollars at some stage.

Cool story, bro.

 

[LashL]

I've moved several off-topic posts to Abandon All Hope. Please stick to the subject matter of the thread.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: LashL

 

[Senex]

Hey golfy,

Look at how many pages of replies you have on your topic. It's a lot to read and your abilities have become murky.

Can you restate in simple terms what you can perform that the detractors here can not seem to understand. I may be able to hear you.

 

[golfy]

If you could hear me then you would not need an explanation. Pretending to not hear me does not convince me of anything as everyone I know does that and says they cannot hear me when I already know they can. Whoever can tell me what town I live in and my first name would convince me that they are willing to tell the truth, at least to start with.

I do not do anything deliberately, my “telepathy” is always on. People can hear what I hear and what I think. I do not know of any limitation to how far it goes and have never met anyone who cannot hear me.

golfy

 

[Senex]

If you could hear me then you would not need an explanation. Pretending to not hear me does not convince me of anything as everyone I know does that and says they cannot hear me when I already know they can. Whoever can tell me what town I live in and my first name would convince me that they are willing to tell the truth, at least to start with.

I do not do anything deliberately, my “telepathy” is always on. People can hear what I hear and what I think. I do not know of any limitation to how far it goes and have never met anyone who cannot hear me.

golfy

I can't hear you my friend. How about giving me a little insight?

 

[Sledge]

I do not do anything deliberately, my “telepathy” is always on. People can hear what I hear and what I think. I do not know of any limitation to how far it goes and have never met anyone who cannot hear me.

So why assume that everyone in the world can hear your thoughts? I owned a walkie talkie set as a child, I didn't assume that everyone on Earth with a walkie talkie could hear what I said on it.

Let's look at this logically (or as much as we can do when discussing the ridiculous): you claim you're transmitting your thoughts. That transmission is powered by your body. Despite what the movie The Matrix would have you believe, the human body is not a power source to rival a nuclear power plant. Your transmission must have a limit to its power that will limit its range.

Not only that, but eventually your signal must be travelling through things to reach people. For you to be sure that people on the other side of the planet are hearing you, your signal is penetrating the Earth itself. To give you an idea how silly this is, consider communications with submarines: The U.S. Navy utilises extremely low frequency electromagnetic waves. These devices are so large a submarine cannot carry one, limiting this technique to communications from shore to ship. Consider that: the device is too big to fit on a submarine, and yet you claim youvare transmitting a more powerful signal with your brain. Why would you assume that rather than concluding that your transmission has limited range?

 

[John Jones]

If you could hear me then you would not need an explanation. Pretending to not hear me does not convince me of anything as everyone I know does that and says they cannot hear me when I already know they can. Whoever can tell me what town I live in and my first name would convince me that they are willing to tell the truth, at least to start with.

I do not do anything deliberately, my “telepathy” is always on. People can hear what I hear and what I think. I do not know of any limitation to how far it goes and have never met anyone who cannot hear me.

golfy

Your first name is Andrew or Andy, and your town is called Maybury or something like that. I'm picking up a lot of static.

 

[fromdownunder]

I'm getting a G, or maybe an I, or perhaps a T.

Am I close?

Norm

 

[Oualawouzou]

Nonsense. I'm getting Mike, or perhaps Michael, or something similar. It could be a middle or last name also. As for the town name, I have a hard time picking it up... There's a sound somewhat like "hill" in it.

 

[Pup]

Dave
Cambridge

 

[fromdownunder]

Now I am getting John, or Edward.

Norm