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Merged Artificial Intelligence

Sorry.

in US politics, "extinction level threat" is code for: we need a bigger budget.

We need more defense spending to close the Artificial Intelligence Gap!

At this rate, the Chinese will cause Global Extinction before we can!
 
The Great Zaganza said:
Sorry.

in US politics, "extinction level threat" is code for: we need a bigger budget.

We need more defense spending to close the Artificial Intelligence Gap!

At this rate, the Chinese will cause Global Extinction before we can!
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Well .. military use of AI is only as certain as the fact AI will keep improving. But as I said, I think AI will get us in unexpected way. Ie. no military robots.
 
Dr.Sid said:
Well .. military use of AI is only as certain as the fact AI will keep improving. But as I said, I think AI will get us in unexpected way. Ie. no military robots.
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I don't think AI will get us all for a long time yet.

I think sooner or later AI will get some of us in the following totally expected and yet somehow totally inevitable way: Some kind of "AI" will be given dynamic control of a complex system. A regional or national power grid, say. And then, based on naive value loading, misinterpretation of telemetry, or some other mundane design problem endemic in complex systems, it will cause a regional disaster, of the same nature as the US northeast blackout of 1965. Afterwards, analysts will say that it was an uncaught feedback loop in the error correction subsystem that triggered a failure cascade of uncorrected errors, instead of correcting the one trivial error at the start.

There will almost certainly never be a system complex enough to get us all, that will also have full authority digital control handed over to an AI.
 
military A.i. is already here.

Israel assassinated an Iran scientist with a self-guided machine gun hidden in a parked car.
The delay of remote control would have made it impossible to hit the target, which is why they just told the system to start firing when it acquired the target.

https://www.engadget.com/israel-remote-control-iran-scientist-assassination-144746205.html

that was 2020.

No question we are far beyond this by now in technological capability.
 
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Word salad or interesting?

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/...is-superreality-not-fit-for-human-consumption

…. The AI-generated realities, far from being mere fabrications, offer us a lens into a superreality that is more nuanced, more complex, and perhaps more true to the nature of existence than anything we've previously conceived. It invites us to redefine our notion of what is "real," embracing the possibilities that lie beyond our current perceptual and cognitive boundaries.

The intersection of AI and human perception opens up new vistas for understanding the universe. By acknowledging and exploring these AI-generated insights, we stand to gain a more comprehensive understanding of the superreality that encompasses us—a reality that is not just fit for human consumption but essential for our evolution.….
 
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Well .. it seems Gemini understood the article better than I did. So both I guess.

This is an article about artificial intelligence (AI) and the limitations of human perception [1]. It discusses the idea that AI can reveal a “superreality” that is beyond our senses and understanding [1]. AI can perceive things that we cannot, and this challenges our current understanding of the world [1]. The author argues that we should embrace this new perspective, even if it is difficult to comprehend [1]. AI could help us to understand the universe in a more complete way [1]. However, it is important to acknowledge the disconnect between human perception and AI’s capabilities [1]. Overall, the article suggests that AI offers a new way of seeing the world, and that we should be open to this new perspective [1].

Let me know if you would like learn more about AI or superreality.
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Darat said:
Word salad or interesting?
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I vote closer to word salad than interesting.

As AI begins to interpret and generate data from realms beyond our sensory reach—cosmic radiation patterns, molecular interactions, and more—multimodal functionality takes on a new dimension. This expanded perspective offers a bridge to understanding aspects of reality that were previously beyond our grasp, marking a significant leap in our quest to comprehend the universe.
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I suppose he could just be saying that AI will be a useful tool for scientists. Interpreting data is one thing. "Generating" data is another, and I do worry that some bad actors will use it as a tool to generate more "fake science" which has been a growing problem. In fact, this is already happening.
 
Darat said:
Word salad or interesting?

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/...is-superreality-not-fit-for-human-consumption

…. The AI-generated realities, far from being mere fabrications, offer us a lens into a superreality that is more nuanced, more complex, and perhaps more true to the nature of existence than anything we've previously conceived. It invites us to redefine our notion of what is "real," embracing the possibilities that lie beyond our current perceptual and cognitive boundaries.

The intersection of AI and human perception opens up new vistas for understanding the universe. By acknowledging and exploring these AI-generated insights, we stand to gain a more comprehensive understanding of the superreality that encompasses us—a reality that is not just fit for human consumption but essential for our evolution.….
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Methinks someone's been getting high on their own supply.

And by supply I mean AI.
 
Haven't seen Devin mentioned yet in this thread, so here's another article by Zvi that goes into what is apparently a new AI system capable of independent coding work (rather than just co-pilot).

Introducing Devin

Is the era of AI agents writing complex code systems without humans in the loop upon us?

Cognition is calling Devin ‘the first AI software engineer.’

Here is a two minute demo of Devin benchmarking LLM performance.

Devin has its own web browser, which it uses to pull up documentation.

Devin has its own code editor.

Devin has its own command line.

Devin uses debugging print statements and uses the log to fix bugs.

Devin builds and deploys entire stylized websites without even being directly asked.
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I'm going to drop an opinion here that comes more from my utilitarian monkey brain than anything else, but I love love LOVE the newest crop of AI image generation models. I play Dungeons and Dragons and prefer to have character portraits whenever possible. For someone of my less-than-pathetic visual artistic abilities, being able to generate a portrait of a dragonborn sword-and-board paladin within half an hour by describing what I want is a godsend. Go AI!
 
I've seen reports, uncorroborated, that Ukraine claims to be using computer-aided target tracking for its FPV drones. Ostensibly this helps the drone to stay on target even when the operator's control signal is being jammed. I don't know to what degree "AI" is being used in this process. I'd guess they're using training an AI to write better target-tracking algorithms, using the corpus of drone video they've built up over the past couple of years.
 
Yalius said:
I'm going to drop an opinion here that comes more from my utilitarian monkey brain than anything else, but I love love LOVE the newest crop of AI image generation models. I play Dungeons and Dragons and prefer to have character portraits whenever possible. For someone of my less-than-pathetic visual artistic abilities, being able to generate a portrait of a dragonborn sword-and-board paladin within half an hour by describing what I want is a godsend. Go AI!
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I've been following this debate a little too, and my opinion is that professional content producers should employ actual artists for their publications, while regular run of the mill players like you and me should use AI as much as they want.

The argument tends to be more black-and-white - either AI is good for the industry or it's bad. Usually bad. But I'm not taking work away from any professional artists by having MidJourney make me a character portrait for my game.
 
arthwollipot said:
I've been following this debate a little too, and my opinion is that professional content producers should employ actual artists for their publications, while regular run of the mill players like you and me should use AI as much as they want.

The argument tends to be more black-and-white - either AI is good for the industry or it's bad. Usually bad. But I'm not taking work away from any professional artists by having MidJourney make me a character portrait for my game.
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Well, the concept is exactly the same, it's just the scale that's different. That isn't to say that you don't have a point -- it's actually the general furore that is somewhat misguided. There is nothing inherently more sacred about an artist than about the assembly line worker that has been made redundant years ago. "Art" will eventually have to follow market forces as well.

And a large reason for the furore is that we aren't actually there yet. AI isn't good enough, so it's easy for consumers to complain about it. The moment it reaches that point and gives consumers what they want, everyone will start shutting up (except for the artists that can't keep up).

Of course, when that happens, "instant art" will be as worthless as the price to create it. It won't be enough, so artists will either have to use AI tools in their creative process to create something different or better than what the tools can create, or they will have to create something that can compete with AI through sheer novelty and creativity.

And this is the tragic part. Most current artists don't want to do this. I wouldn't want to do this. They don't want to work within the AI marketplace that will be imposed on them by progress. It's a sad place to be in when you actually like doing art.

But as I said, the outrage is still misguided and will turn out to be hypocritical, and traditional artists will be replaced with new types of artists. I don't like it either, but it seems inevitable.
 
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Referring to the stop-motion animator that worked on the original Jurassic Park, who said after seeing the CGI tests -- "I think I'm extinct", artists are likely now saying "I think we're erased."
 
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Well .. it depends. In paintings the authors are values over the results and technique. The top ones I mean. Those are IMHO safe. Famous people will stay famous. But people who will do a commission for $20 to draw your favorite comic character is underwear .. those are already out of business. All stock photo and illustrations .. AI can do it better. Manga and comics are already in transformation from traditional (even if computer aided) to computer driven. I guess there will be traditional camp, where human authors would draw by hand using ink .. and computer driven one which will use all AI aids .. to the point where the author only makes the story. Well .. until AI can do stories too .. wait, it already can.
I'd expect huge utilization of AI in animation, with humans still holding the reins. It could make animation better and cheaper, while only removing the worst kind of work.
As for live acting .. movies might go eventually, theaters will not.
 
Dr.Sid said:
Well .. it depends. In paintings the authors are values over the results and technique. The top ones I mean. Those are IMHO safe. Famous people will stay famous. But people who will do a commission for $20 to draw your favorite comic character is underwear .. those are already out of business. All stock photo and illustrations .. AI can do it better. Manga and comics are already in transformation from traditional (even if computer aided) to computer driven. I guess there will be traditional camp, where human authors would draw by hand using ink .. and computer driven one which will use all AI aids .. to the point where the author only makes the story. Well .. until AI can do stories too .. wait, it already can.
I'd expect huge utilization of AI in animation, with humans still holding the reins. It could make animation better and cheaper, while only removing the worst kind of work.
As for live acting .. movies might go eventually, theaters will not.
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The famous people will die eventually, and they'll be replaced by famous people who utilise AI.

It doesn't mean that art would take less effort. In a world where a machine creates acceptable art instantly, an artist would have to work just as hard to create something interesting while using AI tools. The same should apply to storywriting really.

In theory, this would amount to better stuff for all possible definitions of "better" and "stuff", but I have some concerns about market saturation. And of course, any artist who doesn't want to play this game is still left behind.

Edit: I'm also VERY concerned about the power the owner's of such tools (i.e. corporations) would have over artists in this dystopian future of mine. But hey, maybe we'll make a hard left towards an open-source socialist utopia. Right?
 
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