Another unarmed black man shot

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This one is all on video too and the video was released almost immediately in contrast to The Milwaukee shooting where they say they won't release the body cam video until after the investigation.

Video released in fatal police shooting of unarmed Oklahoma man Terence Crutcher

The fatal police shooting of an unarmed Oklahoma man with his hands up could be seen in "difficult to watch" video released by police Monday.

Tulsa police said one officer fired a stun gun and another officer fired one shot that killed Terence Crutcher, who was black, after investigating his stalled car Friday night. Officer Betty Shelby, who is white, fired the fatal shot and Officer Tyler Turnbough, who is also white, deployed his Taser, police have said.

“I’m going to tell you right now, there was no gun on the suspect or in the suspect’s vehicle,” Police Chief Chuck Jordan said at a press conference Monday afternoon. “I want to assure our community and I want to assure all of you and people across the nation watching this: We will achieve justice.”

He declined to take any questions from the media or discuss more details about what he called a pending criminal investigation. Police had received a report of an abandoned car running with its doors open at 7:36 p.m.
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Watching the video, the man did have his hands up most of the time, but he seems to reach into his car and that's when they shot him. He may have been confused and disoriented (intoxicated perhaps, but maybe it's a medical issue). Looks like another poster boy for Black Lives Matter.

I'm sure the officer's lawyer will argue that she feared for her safety when he reached into the car thinking he was going for a weapon. All just a tragic mistake. One of the officers is recorded saying "That looks like a bad dude, too," just prior to the shooting.
 
Nothing to do but wait. The video is pretty clear - Crutcher should not have been shot, and there's no reason to even have suspected him of being a criminal. HE simply was a college student who had his car break down. And that ends with him being shot by cops.

Can't wait to see what rationalizations get posted.

Actually, I can, since I've put most of the people who would actually defend this nonsense on my ignore list years ago :D. But maybe they'll manage to come up with something rational this time.

In theory. Really, they won't.
 
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Hm. Can we at least agree that he shouldn't have been shot, or even treated as a suspect for...some unspecified crime?

ETA: THis'll either be fun, or the Usual Suspects will slink away.

And by "fun" I mean "Listen to people apologize for murder."
 
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Political correctness got this man killed. The left-wing agenda mandates police departments to hire women.
 
Hard to tell exactly what happens as both views are blocked at the moment of the shooting. No obvious reason that they had their guns out to start with though. I suspect Manslaughter charges coming.
 
He was taking a class at the local community college. He was on his way home from said class.
 
PhantomWolf said:
Hard to tell exactly what happens as both views are blocked at the moment of the shooting. No obvious reason that they had their guns out to start with though. I suspect Manslaughter charges coming.
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At least with the video there is some chance at a conviction.
 
Mumbles said:
Hm. Can we at least agree that he shouldn't have been shot, or even treated as a suspect for...some unspecified crime?

ETA: THis'll either be fun, or the Usual Suspects will slink away.

And by "fun" I mean "Listen to people apologize for murder."
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They will ignore this thread of course, it fails to meet their narrative.
 
Oh, I see. Why did he need to be incapacitated.

It's amazing how easily that seems like a reasonable reaction when he could be, and was, simply shot.
 
Upchurch said:
Oh, I see. Why did he need to be incapacitated.
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According to the officer's lawyer, he failed to follow commands and reacted erratically.

This issue of not following commands seems to me to be a common excuse offered by police officers. Putting aside the rather more prosaic arguments that (a) it's wise to follow the instructions of someone who might shoot you if you don't and (b) police are scared that anything unpredictable may lead to a suspect opening fire, what duty is there in US Federal or Oklahoma state law to obey the commands of a police officer, and within what limits?

Dave
 
The police do look nervous in the video. Why so many cops there, why guns out? Was there any suspicious behavior before this? I've only seen the short clip. If he was obeying the officers commands, why would the officer have shot him? Is there any clips with audio?
 
Upchurch said:
Oh, I see. Why did he need to be incapacitated.

It's amazing how easily that seems like a reasonable reaction when he could be, and was, simply shot.
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Yeah, I was thinking escalation. The first cop tasers him for some reason (or no reason, I suppose) and then the second cop, seeing the taser doesn't give the expected/desired result, shoots him. Teamwork.

I don't suppose we'll get the cops' side of the story until it goes to trial, if it ever does.
 
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