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Another "Chi" demonstration

Holographic does not mean digital or quantized. Sorry.
I didn't say they were the same thing.

As to the universe being digital
No floating, but notches. Movement is an illusion. If we could zoom in as far as it goes we would see dots, like on a screen. Points being turned on and off.

OF course, your turtle and arrow examples are things that have been long disproven, and can only be paradoxical if one ignores any of the higher mathematics.
It is a philosophical issue not a mathematical as math is about numbers and the paradox is about logic. This paradox proves that nothing is endlessly on definite time and that means there is a smallest size which means that movement is an illusion. It is one dot after the other all the way as the mass of the objects transfer themselves to a different place.
 
Wow, you must be psychic if you can see into the future, how do you do it? Is it by sensing the wave fluctuations in Quantum Mechanics?
It all projects from the source, where our souls are. The truth is in the Astral world.
 
If you mean act as you wish, no. Everything has consequences, but I am not going into that.
But perhaps you should if you don't consider it murder to kill animals on the mere assumption that they have no soul. First of all, you have no evidence of these souls. And second of all, I belong to the wacko crowd who doesn't appreciate slaughter and captivity of animals.


..but some of them taste good, though.
One has to use limit value. 180 degrees only fit as a good value at human level, when we build something f.ex.
While it's true that humans are confined to think and observe in patterns because it has been practical in evolution, then it doesn't mean that we have any better solutions than to work with what we got from nature. You can't explain what a triangle is if not 180 degrees as per convention, you can of course change the measurement scale, but you can't change the actual proportions.

Try to think about it.
 
Since everything comes from the same projected source it is all a part of the same source. There are no seperation.

That's an assumption without evidence.

Where is it 180 degrees?

I showed you, in the link. When it is not? (Just answer the friggin' question, alright?)

Read from Generatorsystem and down on http://radikal.net/filosofi/metafysikk

The site seeks to prove "Aksistens" (a completely bogus, self-invented word), which, as I understand it, is what generates its own consciousness.

So, if we follow that, you are saying that a chemical has consciousness. Correct?

Is there anything that does not have consciousness? Everything that exists has consciousness?
 
But perhaps you should if you don't consider it murder to kill animals on the mere assumption that they have no soul. First of all, you have no evidence of these souls. And second of all, I belong to the wacko crowd who doesn't appreciate slaughter and captivity of animals.
No soul, no murder. However I can't rule out that animals can have animalsoul, meaning they to reincarnate by some dog recognizing previous owner. I can't remember the story, but it had something to do with repeating tricks it learned or something.

Acting in a manner that has no meaningful purpose like being destructive has a negative and wasteless effect as everything is related to everything.
There are so much to bring about the souls existence that the only conlusion is that there is a non-physical soul. Unless you live in the past were the mechanical view on the world dominated.

Try to think about it.
It still wouldn't be 180 regardless of meassurement. Or are you claiming that the lines are endlessly thin? That is the same as saying the triangle doesn't exist. Geometry is never perfect when geometry is about things that can be drawn in a coordinatesystem. Where is it 0?
 
That's an assumption without evidence.
It is the only explanation. What other rationale theories are there? None.

You didn't read about "Aspect forsøket". It can be found in English too by seeking on "Aspect experiment". "No matter the distance... "

I showed you, in the link. When it is not?
What?

Everything that exists has consciousness?
Everything is consciousness, one mind.
 
No soul, no murder. However I can't rule out that animals can have animalsoul, meaning they to reincarnate by some dog recognizing previous owner. I can't remember the story, but it had something to do with repeating tricks it learned or something.
You have no evidence of souls. And that a dog can learn a trick is not evidence of animalsouls either.

There are so much to bring about the souls existence that the only conlusion is that there is a non-physical soul. Unless you live in the past were the mechanical view on the world dominated.
First of all, I didn't write what you responded to, so I would appreciate it if you would use the quote button so one can see who you're quoting. Secondly, it is you who live in the past, as souls is a bronze age fantasy which has been constantly refuted in lack of evidence ever since.

It still wouldn't be 180 regardless of meassurement. Or are you claiming that the lines are endlessly thin? That is the same as saying the triangle doesn't exist. Geometry is never perfect when geometry is about things that can be drawn in a coordinatesystem. Where is it 0?
If you're still trying to use the Zeno paradoxes as evidence for something, then you're still ignoring the higher mathematics which gives you a finite sum on all counts. You can't use those paradoxes for anything but historical value.
 
You have no evidence of souls.
I have brought about crucial theories for its existence.

Or do you have some other answers to:
What is generating consciousness, and where is it?
What is calculating the laws of physics, and where is it?

These questions are not for weak souls.

And that a dog can learn a trick is not evidence of animalsouls either.
Stop eating hash.

the higher mathematics which gives you a finite sum on all counts.
Don't cry.
 
I have brought about crucial theories for its existence.

Or do you have some other answers to:
What is generating consciousness, and where is it?
The brain.
What is calculating the laws of physics, and where is it?
The brain.
These questions are not for weak souls.
Or messed up brains.
Stop eating hash.
It is not I who is the editor of a primitive website with an entire section about the very plants you use for making hash. That is you.
Don't cry.
I will cry the day I have to ignore mathematics to justify childish fantasies about astral planes and souls.
 
It is the only explanation. What other rationale theories are there? None.

Argument from ignorance: "I can't understand that there could be other explanations, so my own just has to be the right one. It just has to."

It doesn't work here, mate.

You didn't read about "Aspect forsøket". It can be found in English too by seeking on "Aspect experiment". "No matter the distance... "

Yes, I did. Please explain how this proves you right.


When is a triangle not 180 degrees?

Try to keep up, please.

Everything is consciousness, one mind.

How is that falsifiable?
 
You're well aware that you're talking to a door, Claus. Fanatic believers who have too much invested in terms of eternal life and a sense of extreme superiority, will not change their mind no matter how much you hammer them with sources and facts. You know this, but I must admit I find this guy funny as well.
 
The brain.
Which atoms are those? The world is mechanical by your philosphy.

Where in the brain is consciousness? How much of the brain would one have to take away before one has no consciousness?

It doesn't work here, mate.
I understand. No theories are good. Just go back to the world where answers doesn't exist.
 
This is your way of defining: Apes looks very much alike human, it must be human!
I never said that, and statement without argument.

You do not have a definition for human, ergo psychopath language - nominalism.
Statement without argument. Non-sequitur.

Assertion without argument.
I gave an example, and I could give more. I won't bother because you ignored it.

Fake what? Pain is not necessary for animals where they eat each other. Humans are not animals and don't exist for survival, but to achieve happiness.
Kick a dog. It displays clear signs that it was hurt. Pain is necessary to avoid injury. Humans are animals, whether you like it or not.

Nothing philosophical or schientifical there.
The "Psychiatric clinics of North America", published since 1978, is not scientific enough for you? As I feared, you know very little about science. And I should add about philosophy, judging by that "importance of philosophy" site that you link to.

I notice that you can't or won't show why free will and instincts can't coexist. [claus]Evasion noted[/claus].
 
You're well aware that you're talking to a door, Claus. Fanatic believers who have too much invested in terms of eternal life and a sense of extreme superiority, will not change their mind no matter how much you hammer them with sources and facts. You know this, but I must admit I find this guy funny as well.

I know that it is like talking to a door (it's a "brick wall" in Inglese). But, as you say, it is in a way amusing to demolish his arguments. Not that there's any real intellectual challenge involved, of course...
 
Kick a dog. It displays clear signs that it was hurt.
It releaves stress from the pressure.

Pain is necessary to avoid injury.
Animals don't scream of pain because they can't feel it, and if they can't feel it is because they have no consciousness. You can't feel something if you are not aware of it.

Humans are animals, whether you like it or not.
I have already defined human and animal. The only language psychopaths are using is nominalism.
 
I know that it is like talking to a door (it's a "brick wall" in Inglese).
You will often find me using danoir-inglæse when I'm forced to speak to fellow Danes without the potato in the mouth.. it's called style ya know, and was invented by the Briti.. ehm.. never mind.

Hypernicus,

I'll get back to you when I find the time to search for a neurology site for beginners or kids.
 
I'll get back to you when I find the time to search for a neurology site for beginners or kids.
Bohm is not the only researcher who has found evidence that the universe is a hologram. Working independently in the field of brain research, Standford neurophysiologist Karl Pribram has also become persuaded of the holographic nature of reality. Pribram was drawn to the holographic model by the puzzle of how and where memories are stored in the brain. For decades numerous studies have shown that rather than being confined to a specific location, memories are dispersed throughout the brain.
In a series of landmark experiments in the 1920s, brain scientist Karl Lashley found that no matter what portion of a rat's brain he removed he was unable to eradicate its memory of how to perform complex tasks it had learned prior to surgery. The only problem was that no one was able to come up with a mechanism that might explain this curious "whole in every part" nature of memory storage.
Then in the 1960s Pribram encountered the concept of holography and realized he had found the explanation brain scientists had been looking for. Pribram believes memories are encoded not in neurons, or small groupings of neurons, but in patterns of nerve impulses that crisscross the entire brain in the same way that patterns of laser light interference crisscross the entire area of a piece of film containing a holographic image. In other words, Pribram believes the brain is itself a hologram.
Pribram's theory also explains how the human brain can store so many memories in so little space. It has been estimated that the human brain has the capacity to memorize something on the order of 10 billion bits of information during the average human lifetime (or roughly the same amount of information contained in five sets of the Encyclopaedia Britannica).
Similarly, it has been discovered that in addition to their other capabilities, holograms possess an astounding capacity for information storage--simply by changing the angle at which the two lasers strike a piece of photographic film, it is possible to record many different images on the same surface. It has been demonstrated that one cubic centimeter of film can hold as many as 10 billion bits of information.
Our uncanny ability to quickly retrieve whatever information we need from the enormous store of our memories becomes more understandable if the brain functions according to holographic principles. If a friend asks you to tell him what comes to mind when he says the word "zebra", you do not have to clumsily sort back through some gigantic and cerebral alphabetic file to arrive at an answer. Instead, associations like "striped", "horselike", and "animal native to Africa" all pop into your head instantly. Indeed, one of the most amazing things about the human thinking process is that every piece of information seems instantly cross- correlated with every other piece of information--another feature intrinsic to the hologram. Because every portion of a hologram is infinitely interconnected with every other portion, it is perhaps nature's supreme example of a cross-correlated system.
The storage of memory is not the only neurophysiological puzzle that becomes more tractable in light of Pribram's holographic model of the brain. Another is how the brain is able to translate the avalanche of frequencies it receives via the senses (light frequencies, sound frequencies, and so on) into the concrete world of our perceptions.
Encoding and decoding frequencies is precisely what a hologram does best. Just as a hologram functions as a sort of lens, a translating device able to convert an apparently meaningless blur of frequencies into a coherent image, Pribram believes the brain also comprises a lens and uses holographic principles to mathematically convert the frequencies it receives through the senses into the inner world of our perceptions.

An impressive body of evidence suggests that the brain uses holographic principles to perform its operations. Pribram's theory, in fact, has gained increasing support among neurophysiologists.
Argentinian-Italian researcher Hugo Zucarelli recently extended the holographic model into the world of acoustic phenomena. Puzzled by the fact that humans can locate the source of sounds without moving their heads, even if they only possess hearing in one ear, Zucarelli discovered that holographic principles can explain this ability. Zucarelli has also developed the technology of holophonic sound, a recording technique able to reproduce acoustic situations with an almost uncanny realism.
http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~sai/hologram.html
 
Bohm is not the only researcher who has found evidence that the universe is a hologram. Working independently in the field of brain research, Standford neurophysiologist Karl Pribram has also become persuaded of the holographic nature of reality. Pribram was drawn to the holographic model by the puzzle of how and where memories are stored in the brain. For decades numerous studies have shown that rather than being confined to a specific location, memories are dispersed throughout the brain.
In a series of landmark experiments in the 1920s, brain scientist Karl Lashley found that no matter what portion of a rat's brain he removed he was unable to eradicate its memory of how to perform complex tasks it had learned prior to surgery. The only problem was that no one was able to come up with a mechanism that might explain this curious "whole in every part" nature of memory storage.
Then in the 1960s Pribram encountered the concept of holography and realized he had found the explanation brain scientists had been looking for. Pribram believes memories are encoded not in neurons, or small groupings of neurons, but in patterns of nerve impulses that crisscross the entire brain in the same way that patterns of laser light interference crisscross the entire area of a piece of film containing a holographic image. In other words, Pribram believes the brain is itself a hologram.
Pribram's theory also explains how the human brain can store so many memories in so little space. It has been estimated that the human brain has the capacity to memorize something on the order of 10 billion bits of information during the average human lifetime (or roughly the same amount of information contained in five sets of the Encyclopaedia Britannica).
Similarly, it has been discovered that in addition to their other capabilities, holograms possess an astounding capacity for information storage--simply by changing the angle at which the two lasers strike a piece of photographic film, it is possible to record many different images on the same surface. It has been demonstrated that one cubic centimeter of film can hold as many as 10 billion bits of information.
Our uncanny ability to quickly retrieve whatever information we need from the enormous store of our memories becomes more understandable if the brain functions according to holographic principles. If a friend asks you to tell him what comes to mind when he says the word "zebra", you do not have to clumsily sort back through some gigantic and cerebral alphabetic file to arrive at an answer. Instead, associations like "striped", "horselike", and "animal native to Africa" all pop into your head instantly. Indeed, one of the most amazing things about the human thinking process is that every piece of information seems instantly cross- correlated with every other piece of information--another feature intrinsic to the hologram. Because every portion of a hologram is infinitely interconnected with every other portion, it is perhaps nature's supreme example of a cross-correlated system.
The storage of memory is not the only neurophysiological puzzle that becomes more tractable in light of Pribram's holographic model of the brain. Another is how the brain is able to translate the avalanche of frequencies it receives via the senses (light frequencies, sound frequencies, and so on) into the concrete world of our perceptions.
Encoding and decoding frequencies is precisely what a hologram does best. Just as a hologram functions as a sort of lens, a translating device able to convert an apparently meaningless blur of frequencies into a coherent image, Pribram believes the brain also comprises a lens and uses holographic principles to mathematically convert the frequencies it receives through the senses into the inner world of our perceptions.

An impressive body of evidence suggests that the brain uses holographic principles to perform its operations. Pribram's theory, in fact, has gained increasing support among neurophysiologists.
Argentinian-Italian researcher Hugo Zucarelli recently extended the holographic model into the world of acoustic phenomena. Puzzled by the fact that humans can locate the source of sounds without moving their heads, even if they only possess hearing in one ear, Zucarelli discovered that holographic principles can explain this ability. Zucarelli has also developed the technology of holophonic sound, a recording technique able to reproduce acoustic situations with an almost uncanny realism.
http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~sai/hologram.html
There came quantum mechanics. The last resort for the cornered woo.

Aspects results are not as conclusive as presented by certain woos using QM to justify free will. There's still the issue of loopholes and Local Hidden Variable Theory. And the holonomic brain model proposed by Bohm is all speculation based on lack of proper data. Furthermore, it holds no falsification criteria. Pull the other one.

Your own claim that animals don't feel pain because they don't scream when tortured, is perhaps the most outrageous baloney I have ever heard. And you call us psychopaths. You're a truckload of irony and a clear example of why wooism is harmful.
 
As I said this thread is going nowhere. Especially when no one reads, and are taking meaning out of the contexts. The only thing this thread can do is to loop.
 
There came quantum mechanics. The last resort for the cornered woo.
Someone was gonna teach me about neurons, and I showed to Quanta as it is only something senseble and are not something that calculates.

Aspects results are not as conclusive as presented by certain woos using QM to justify free will.
QM is not generating free will.

And the holonomic brain model proposed by Bohm is all speculation based on lack of proper data.
Where does it say Bohm proposed that?
What data gives the fallacy that the world isn't hologram?

Your own claim that animals don't feel pain because they don't scream when tortured, is perhaps the most outrageous baloney I have ever heard. And you call us psychopaths.
Notice the psychopath projects his inner state on me without making arguments. Classic.
 

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