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Animal rights terrorists

Ramooone

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heres an article i found about an animal rights group that has been terrorizing wall street brokers that deal with companies that do animal testing(thats just a summary quick and to the point)

Now, why is it that if you don't like what a company is doing you have to threaten their lives? how come they just not support those companies?
 
Some people can't live out their violent urges anymore because ECW closed down years ago.

So now, these poor a**holes follow in the footsteps of very misguided people like PETA and ALF.

It's really sad.
 
PETA and organisations like them give the animal rights and animal welfare movements a very bad name. :mad: They have almost as many enemies within these movements as they do outside of them, for just that reason.

I think that PETA is the cause of the instant defensiveness I see in many people when a discussion turns to animal rights and/or welfare, vegetarianism, or veganism. PETA has shot themselves, and all the rest of us, in both feet with their nasty tactics, publicity stunts, and blatent sponsorship of domestic terrorism.

I can only hope they get their non-profit status revoked soon. IIRC, the IRS has been trying for years...

*grrrrr* I. Hate. PETA. :mad:
 
Ive supported PETA for a while now...its worrying to hear that they are underhand......could you elaborate on this please?
 
princesspoppy said:
Ive supported PETA for a while now...its worrying to hear that they are underhand......could you elaborate on this please?
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I don't think you're going to like this

PETA's Dirty Secret



PETA kills animals. By the thousands.

From July 1998 through the end of 2005, PETA killed over 14,400 dogs, cats, and other "companion animals" -- at its Norfolk, Virginia headquarters. That's more than five defenseless animals every day. Not counting the dogs and cats PETA spayed and neutered, the group put to death over 90 percent of the animals it took in during 2005 alone. And its angel-of-death pattern shows no sign of changing.
 
And right next door to PETA headquarters, there's a chinese restaurant - The House of Chow.
 
SHAC and ALF are worse than PETA.
 
Honestly, how can anyone who supports PETA NOT know how aggressive and illegal their tactics are?
THEY THROW PAINT ON OTHER HUMAN BEINGS.

THEY BREAK INTO RESEARCH LABS AND STEAL THE SUBJECTS AND RELEASE FULLY DOMESTICATED LAB ANIMALS INTO THE WILD WHERE THEY STARVE TO DEATH.

They're pretty upfront about all this- Do you even KNOW who you're supporting? Have you not heard Newkirk speak?
 
Ramooone said:
Now, why is it that if you don't like what a company is doing you have to threaten their lives? how come they just not support those companies?
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It's like those Pro-Life extremist militants who are willing to kill the doctors who perform abortions. It doesn't make any sense. Go figure.
 
I like the vice president using dog parts for her health..its ok for her just noone else?
 
Check out the Penn & Teller BS episode on PETA. It will piss you off, but it should open your eyes. PETA is to eco-terrorism what the PLO is to HAMAS.

The trouble with these types of people is that they mean well, but then it goes way way WAY too far. Just like I'm sure nearly every communist official started out wanting to genuinely help workers - but wound up supporting a power-hungry bunch of thugs who killed 100 million people by the end of the Cold War and are still going (just ask any North Korean who had to cook and eat his own child so Kim Jong Il could make movies and support his million-man army).

PETA supports arson and disruptive terrorism at best - at worst it affects research that could cure horrible human diseases and puts people at risk of death or grevious bodily harm directly (ask any lumberjack who's hit a tree spike). Your money would be better spent supporting a conservation organization (but for the love of God, don't donate to the Forest Service!!!!) such as the WWF - that's the World Wildlife Federation, not the one that employs Hulk Hogan.
 
ChaoticLimbs said:
Honestly, how can anyone who supports PETA NOT know how aggressive and illegal their tactics are?
THEY THROW PAINT ON OTHER HUMAN BEINGS.

THEY BREAK INTO RESEARCH LABS AND STEAL THE SUBJECTS AND RELEASE FULLY DOMESTICATED LAB ANIMALS INTO THE WILD WHERE THEY STARVE TO DEATH.

They're pretty upfront about all this- Do you even KNOW who you're supporting? Have you not heard Newkirk speak?
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Well clearly I do not know what they are truly like because I would not be asking this question...
I cannot recall them being as upfront to admit "throwing paint on people" nor have they publicly confessed to allowing lab animals to "starve to death". So how do you suggest I would "KNOW" this?
I have a genuine love for animals and along with thousands of others believe PETA to have the same philosophies on animal care. I do not agree with preaching vegetarianism or terrorists tatics. Information like this on their behaviour is a shock and unsettling so the facts alone would be appreciated when assistance has been asked for, sans the sarcasm and aggression thanks all the same..
 
The mass release of minks into the unsuspecting English countryside is well-documented if you really want an example of animal rights stupidity.
 
Polaris said:
PETA is to eco-terrorism what the PLO is to HAMAS.
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I think a more accurate analogy is that PETA is to the ALF and SHAC what Sinn Fein is to the Provisional IRA. One collects the donations and issues the apologetics, the others spend the money on doing the dirty work, and personnel move between them.

princesspoppy, living in the UK I assume it's unlikely you'll be able to gain easy access to the episode of the Penn & Teller series Bullsh*t on PETA, but I'll be happy to give you a few highlights.

Exhibit A: Despite PETA's stated categorical opposition to animal testing for any purpose, Mary Beth Sweetland, senior vice-president of PETA, is perfectly content to control her Type A diabetes by using insulin, developed with testing on dogs, and produced from animals. Quoth Sweetland:
"I don't see myself as a hypocrite. I need my life to fight for the rights of animals."
Except those ones who were, and are, killed to keep her alive, evidently.

Exhibit B: Because PETA is a non-profit organization, its tax returns are public under US law. PETA's tax return for 1995 shows a payment of $45,200 to the "Rodney Coronado Support Committee." Coronado is a self-confessed ALF member, who as committed at least seven acts of arson on animal reasearch facilities.

Exhibit C: PETA employs as its spokesperson one Gary Yourofsky, convicted of committing numerous acts of violence as part of ALF operations. (Yourofsky likes to compare himself to Gandhi, MLK and Jesus, though he seems to have missed the "non" part in "non-violent.")

Exhibit D: PETA's tax return for 2002 includes a walk-in freezer, costing $9,3700. Such a freezer would measure about 4.5 x 3 x 2 meters, and has essentially two possible purposes: the conservation of large amounts of edible meat (hardly likely for an organization which makes veganism part of its policy), or the conservation of cadavers. As it turns out, it was the latter. In the year it acquired the freezer, PETA "rescued" 2,103 dogs and cats. Of these, the organization euthanized (i.e. killed) 1,325.

The combination of the aforegoing indicates that PETA doesn't care about human life, and it doesn't actually care a whole lot more about animal life.
 
Euromutt said:
I think a more accurate analogy is that PETA is to the ALF and SHAC what Sinn Fein is to the Provisional IRA. One collects the donations and issues the apologetics, the others spend the money on doing the dirty work, and personnel move between them.

princesspoppy, living in the UK I assume it's unlikely you'll be able to gain easy access to the episode of the Penn & Teller series Bullsh*t on PETA, but I'll be happy to give you a few highlights.

Exhibit A: Despite PETA's stated categorical opposition to animal testing for any purpose, Mary Beth Sweetland, senior vice-president of PETA, is perfectly content to control her Type A diabetes by using insulin, developed with testing on dogs, and produced from animals. Quoth Sweetland:
"I don't see myself as a hypocrite. I need my life to fight for the rights of animals."
Except those ones who were, and are, killed to keep her alive, evidently.

Exhibit B: Because PETA is a non-profit organization, its tax returns are public under US law. PETA's tax return for 1995 shows a payment of $45,200 to the "Rodney Coronado Support Committee." Coronado is a self-confessed ALF member, who as committed at least seven acts of arson on animal reasearch facilities.

Exhibit C: PETA employs as its spokesperson one Gary Yourofsky, convicted of committing numerous acts of violence as part of ALF operations. (Yourofsky likes to compare himself to Gandhi, MLK and Jesus, though he seems to have missed the "non" part in "non-violent.")

Exhibit D: PETA's tax return for 2002 includes a walk-in freezer, costing $9,3700. Such a freezer would measure about 4.5 x 3 x 2 meters, and has essentially two possible purposes: the conservation of large amounts of edible meat (hardly likely for an organization which makes veganism part of its policy), or the conservation of cadavers. As it turns out, it was the latter. In the year it acquired the freezer, PETA "rescued" 2,103 dogs and cats. Of these, the organization euthanized (i.e. killed) 1,325.

The combination of the aforegoing indicates that PETA doesn't care about human life, and it doesn't actually care a whole lot more about animal life.
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Thank you for that information.....no, I've not seen Penn and Teller, as much as I'd like to...Im thinking of perhaps ordering one of their dvds...
That is awful, have PETA responded to any of this possibly tried to vindicate themselves, or have they kept quiet?
 
Here is an answer from Peta's FAQ page:

“How can you justify the millions of dollars of property damage caused by the Animal Liberation Front (ALF)?”

Throughout history, some people have felt the need to break the law to fight injustice. The Underground Railroad and the French Resistance are examples of movements in which people broke the law in order to answer to a higher morality. The ALF, which is simply the name adopted by people who act illegally in behalf of animal rights, breaks inanimate objects such as stereotaxic devices and decapitators in order to save lives. ALF members burn empty buildings in which animals are tortured and killed. ALF “raids” have given us proof of horrific cruelty that would not have otherwise been discovered or believed and have resulted in criminal charges’ being filed against laboratories for violations of the Animal Welfare Act. Often, ALF raids have been followed by widespread scientific condemnation of the practices occurring in the targeted labs, and some abusive laboratories have been permanently shut down as a result. (www.peta.org)


So basically they are equating arson with the underground railroad. Way to debase true heroes PETA!
 
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