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On this Fourth of July it's important to remember our violent historical origins (in per capita terms, I think the Revolutionary was our second deadliest war, obviously behind the one where Americans fought on both sides). Still, if all that bloodshed and sacrifice had not occurred, we probably would have ended up oppressed and poor -- like Canada.
 
Argumemnon said:
Three years for killing a dog is appropriate? I love dogs, but I really think we need to keep things in perspective.
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Three years for killing a dog with deliberate cruelty and potentially risking human beings as well, people will tend to swerve panic brake to avoid hitting dogs specifically or large objects in general.

I have no problems with custodial sentences for cruelty or throwing objects into the road (once narrowly avoided being knocked off my motorbike by a thrown sack of rubbish).
 
P.J. Denyer said:
Three years for killing a dog with deliberate cruelty and potentially risking human beings as well, people will tend to swerve panic brake to avoid hitting dogs specifically or large objects in general.

I have no problems with custodial sentences for cruelty or throwing objects into the road (once narrowly avoided being knocked off my motorbike by a thrown sack of rubbish).
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Not to mention prior convictions tend to lead to harsher sentences.
 
mgidm86 said:
Yes, there is another thread, and I said this in it, more or less:

After driving a lot of miles the past 4 months, I am more in favor of preventing deaths on the road than I am with guns. I have avoided death several times on the highways from people who just don't pay attention to their surroundings.

I know the "cars are dangerous too" thing gets laughed at in gun threads, but I'd rather concentrate on road fatalities and bad, very bad drivers than guns. Hopefully autonomous cars will help. I was against them before, but now I anxiously await them. I'm sure there will be problems with that, but it can't be as bad as it is now.

I can almost understand wanting to shoot a very bad driver, especially one that may have almost killed you moments before. Let's get better training before handing out licenses and maybe road rage won't be such a problem.
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This.

I've been driving Uber and Lyft for the last six months, and I've seen it all. Just the other day I had some moron cut me off (not to mention my four-person fare) from the left to shoot through the off-ramp to my right that they'd just driven right past. If I hadn't been paying attention I'd have T-boned the stupid **** with potentially fatal consequences at 60mph.

It's not much of a stretch to imagine people getting violently angry in similar circumstances.
 
Nope, still don't. I can understand being upset. "Wanting to shoot" someone because I'm upset at them? No. Someone who almost hit me, or almost "killed" me in some other way, by definition hasn't actually done anything to me.
 
Checkmite said:
Nope, still don't. I can understand being upset. "Wanting to shoot" someone because I'm upset at them? No. Someone who almost hit me, or almost "killed" me in some other way, by definition hasn't actually done anything to me.
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But can we at least agree they deserve to be executed?
 
Cain said:
But can we at least agree they deserve to be executed?
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No - just imprisoned for a year or two in a cell with a sewer running through it and having catch of the day for meals if they can catch it!!!!!!
 
Ian Osborne said:
You can't tell gun-huggers they shouldn't have their guns.
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Well, this gun-hugger hasn't shot anyone ever. This year I have shot 11 feral pigs and donated 166 pounds of breakfast sausage to our county children's home. Perhaps you should compare charitable meat donations of gun-huggers to charitable meat donations of ... whatever the hell you are.
 
BStrong said:
May well be - usually the drill is start high, (charges) trade low, but every jurisdiction has heir way of doing things.

If the facts are as stated it may be that a 3rd degree charge is a better fit, and the fact that he turned himself in and evidently hasn't destroyed evidence is all in his favor.
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Is such horse trading really how it works in the USA? I know we see it all the time in the TV shows and the like but I've always assumed that's like most TV tropes "for entertainment purposes only" .
 
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