Alan Keyes: The Walking Self-Parody

Alan Keyes apparently is big on morality and all, but has inversely proportional amount of class.

Not congratulating the winner was the epitome of low class.
 
corplinx said:

There's a republican loss I'm perfectly happy with.

In a sense it really is the GOP's fault for supporting him in the first place. They knew that nobody they [could] put up againt obama would stand a chance. Keys was the perfect S.Lamb.

Edit to add: plus, it was such an embarassing defeat Keys is unlikely to ever run for anything ever again...

Well, maybe as an LPer. He could get that nomination.

I think the number of votes he received was actually less than the margin of error in the voting system used.

Kidding. His 15% or so was well earned and deserved.
 
Keyes said a major difficulty in his campaign was overcoming the "stranglehold" the media had on trying to define the issues of importance in political campaigns.

"I refused to accept their authority, and I still do," Keyes said.
Probably had trouble getting his message out over the constant drone of all them black helicopters.

Now, what was it everyone was saying about how the Christian right was controlling everything?

Conspiracy Theory of the Day: Republicans put Keyes out there deliberately as a woo woo candidate and told him to say whatever pops into his mind, with no editing between brain and tongue. Bush avoids him like the plague, demonstrating that just having strong Christian values is no guarantee that the president, from your own party, will support you. Bush looks good, picks up a few dozen more votes.

Conspiracy Theory of the Day 2: Keyes was actually a Democrat plant, paid to make himself look as much like the sterotypical Christian right-wing buffoon as possible. Obama acquires gravitas just by standing next to him*, boosting his chances for the no. 2 spot on the Dem ticket in 2008.

* Paris Hilton would have acquired gravitas standing next to Keyes in this election...
 
If Keyes actually thought he could win that election, he's got some severe issues with reality.
 
BPSCG said:
Now, what was it everyone was saying about how the Christian right was controlling everything?
Everyone is saying they control everything?
 
With all due respect, which would be near zero respect, none of you libs know what you're talking about. Alan Keyes is basically an an expert on government policy, and a man of great morality (*shudder* .... *gasp* .... yeah, I know - the very thought appalls) who has let himself be misused by the slime elements of the republican party due to his continuing naivete about electioneering.

The republican party in Illinois is worse than a farce. In a state that is increasingly democrat largely due to demographic changes and economic conditions, the feckless Republicans there have made it worse by presiding over a number of electoral disasters and the transformation of the party into RINOs - keep your mouth shut AT LEAST till you do your homework and find out what that means. At the last minute, the original republican party nominee, essentially a pervert, withdraws and Keyes lets himself be drawn into the circus. Keyes is deluded into believing he can actually talk about government policy and it's effects, instead of using the emotional content and political slogans that impress many voters.

Only an idiot would claim in broad daylight that the press hasn't had a total lovefest for Obama all this fall, after the dems trotted him up to speak at their convention to give an embarassing speech which was essentially one cliche strung together with another all the way to the end. Then the Dan Rather types get all giddy because they've come up with a black guy who actually graduated from the ivy league (not a great task nowadays for hardly any black) and wonder of wonders, has actually mastered white english (you know, able to conjugate the "to be" verb, etc.)
Obama is nothing more than a standard democrat who is gung ho for abortion, whose ideas of government are nothing more than the standard democrat nostrums that have developed over 60 years, viz, big government, big labor, big taxes, soak the "rich", and of course racial spoil system politics - there's absolutely nothing new there.

In not congratulating Obama, as if he had merely lost a game of tennis at the club, Keyes was holding moral and intellectual integrity over chicken-sh_t political conventions. Why should he shake the hand of a politician who will now procede to do everything he can to implement state policies that are anathema to Keyes? No reason at all.
 
Notwithstanding the presidential election, it's nice to see democracy in action.

Charlie (Keyes - denial, more than a river in Africa) Monoxide
 
Patrick said:
Only an idiot would claim in broad daylight that the press hasn't had a total lovefest for Obama all this fall, after the dems trotted him up to speak at their convention to give an embarassing speech which was essentially one cliche strung together with another all the way to the end. Then the Dan Rather types get all giddy because they've come up with a black guy who actually graduated from the ivy league (not a great task nowadays for hardly any black) and wonder of wonders, has actually mastered white english (you know, able to conjugate the "to be" verb, etc.)

I guess that is what happens when you watch his speech wanting to hate him, and don't really understand all that Obama has been through and how much a really good speaker he his. As for the Ivy league school, there is far more that he had accomplished in his life than just that. It is fairly clear that you hold a grudge against a potential democratic super power. Maybe you should check out the bio...but I am sure you won't care anyway.


In not congratulating Obama, as if he had merely lost a game of tennis at the club, Keyes was holding moral and intellectual integrity over chicken-sh_t political conventions. Why should he shake the hand of a politician who will now procede to do everything he can to implement state policies that are anathema to Keyes? No reason at all.

I live in Illinois, and I watched the debates and the media circus around all this. Keyes held nothing over Obama in a Illinois senate race. I think Obama put it well in the debate when he said something along the lines of...that is all well and good if we were running illinois state minister, but we are not we are running for senate...when replying to some line from Keyes about how abortion is the cause for all problems anyone ever faces.(Which is the only thing Keyes was capable of talking about) Keyes stated himself that he was trying to be as controversial as possible in the election since he was so far behind. And well what do you know, it all backfired.

Yeah, well morality and class seem to be two different things...
 
I find the fact that Keyes got even 15% of the vote as scary as the 11 states that outlawed gay marriage.

Perhaps Rob Lister's idea that this could keep Keyes from polluting other Republican tickets is a good thing.
 
I guess that is what happens when you watch his speech wanting to hate him, and don't really understand all that Obama has been through and how much a really good speaker he his. As for the Ivy league school, there is far more that he had accomplished in his life than just that. It is fairly clear that you hold a grudge against a potential democratic super power. Maybe you should check out the bio...but I am sure you won't care anyway.

Quick translation summary from your propaganda site about Obama's miraculous accomplishments:

- He pushed the abortion holocaust - whoopee

- He pushed day care paid for by non-parent taxpayers so women who have children can abandon them during the day so that they can get a job

- Pushed for funding for PC diseases like AIDs that have big political lobbies - others can drop dead

- Used the power of the state to intimidate businesses to employ persons based on racial criteria

- Jumped on the "racial profiling" opposition, essentially racial pandering politics that has made the U.S. less secure

- Helped suppress the First Amendment with "campaign finance reform legislation"

- Fought for "diversity" in employment - i.e., forget the more-qualified white guy applicant so you can meet your racial quotas

Golly gosh gee, I sure am impressed! One person who has managed to incorporate everything that's wrong with the american polity! A "super power"? Obama is probably best described as the first human media event, a person whose political status is almost an invention of the media, which is madly in love with him because he represents straightforward old style democrat thinking in an era when many black intellectuals, unlike media star Obama, have at long last decided to leave the liberal plantation.
 
Patrick said:
At the last minute, the original republican party nominee, essentially a pervert,...
He wanted to have sex with his wife in a semi-public place.

...withdraws and Keyes lets himself be drawn into the circus.

Now I finally found something I agree with. If you are going to call the thing a circus be sure to include the part where while the Republicans were scrambling for a last-minute replacement, they asked Coach Mike "Da Bears" Ditka to run for Senate. He actually considered it until he learned that he would be expected to hold his tongue on certain things. Being an opinionated man who does not suffer fools gladly, he realized that he would be too outspoken to be a team player in the Senate.
 
Patrick said:
With all due respect, which would be near zero respect, none of you libs know what you're talking about. Alan Keyes is basically an an expert on government policy, and a man of great morality ...

Keyes: gay marriage means "incest is inevitable."

"If we do not know who the mother is, who the father is, without knowing all the brothers and sisters, incest becomes inevitable," Keyes said Saturday at a Marquette Park rally held to oppose same-sex marriages. "Whether they mean it or not, that is what will happen. If you are masked from your knowing your biological parents, you are in danger of encountering brothers and sisters you have no knowledge of."


If the man has trouble constructing simple syllogisms correctly, I am not prepared to listen to his higher logic.
 
Very interesting, you insult his Harvard schooling and then I tell you should look more into what he has done in reference to that. So you talk about something else? Alright. I know you will hate whatever he has done in the state senate. I am not that stupid to try and impress you with that.

One thing you always have to look for is when someone states that they will look through someone else’s "propaganda" is usually means they will fill it in with their own.

edit: to add that this is reference to what Pat said.
 
Very interesting, you insult his Harvard schooling

I told it like it is - in the education establishment, for many years and continuing up till now, as evidenced e.g. by all the facts revealed in the U of M USSC anti-white discrimination cases, blacks are dragged along to phony educational credentials by the mighty vacuum of "affirmative action". Non-wealthy white students succeed only by producing the goods, and under disadvantaged conditions of having no race-based scholarships, fellowships, internships, etc.

and then I tell you should look more into what he has done in reference to that. So you talk about something else?

No, I looked at your election link, and translated it - there's a one-to-one correlation between every statement I made and the corresponding glittering liberal-speak item on your political site. Want me to match them up for you?
 
Patrick said:
Very interesting, you insult his Harvard schooling

I told it like it is - in the education establishment, for many years and continuing up till now, as evidenced e.g. by all the facts revealed in the U of M USSC anti-white discrimination cases, blacks are dragged along to phony educational credentials by the mighty vacuum of "affirmative action". Non-wealthy white students succeed only by producing the goods, and under disadvantaged conditions of having no race-based scholarships, fellowships, internships, etc.

and then I tell you should look more into what he has done in reference to that. So you talk about something else?

No, I looked at your election link, and translated it - there's a one-to-one correlation between every statement I made and the corresponding glittering liberal-speak item on your political site. Want me to match them up for you?

I do know about the Michigan affirmative action cases, and I sure you are well aware that affirmative action only helps a person get into the school, once they are there it is up to the student to suceed. As well as the fact that we do not even know if the only reason he got into Harvard was AA. How about trying to prove that, if you could be so kind.

"He went on to Harvard Law School, where he graduated magna cum laude and served as the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review. "

I don't think they allow people to be the president of Harvard Law Review because of affirmative action as well as magna cum laude. I could be wrong, but I am sure he had a great deal of skill.

You insulted his college background, I showed you that he accomplished more that you knew, I understand that you can translate other people's propaganda into your own, and I really don't care. That was not what we were talking about.
 
keep your mouth shut AT LEAST till you do your homework
If you'd only follow your own advice.

Only an idiot would claim in broad daylight that the press hasn't had a total lovefest for Obama all this fall, after the dems trotted him up to speak at their convention to give an embarassing speech which was essentially one cliche strung together with another all the way to the end.
If you're trying to claim that the media 'lovefest' is why Obama won the election, keep in mind that according to you the 'liberal media' had a total lovefest for Kerry, but he still lost. The country is divided. Illinois is divided. If Illinois voted for Obama, obviously conservatives and Republicans must have voted for him. This means that they must have thought he was a better candidate than Keyes.

By the way, Keyes has a "mastery" of "White English" despite being black, yet he still lost. Explain that. And Bush has an "Ivy League" degree, yet you didn't complain about him. Explain that.

He pushed day care paid for by non-parent taxpayers so women who have children can abandon them during the day so that they can get a job
You don't want them going on welfare, but you don't want them working. What exactly DO you want single moms to do, Patrick? What is your magical solution to feed, clothe and house these women and their children? And what about single FATHERS, Patrick? What do you propose for THEM?

Helped suppress the First Amendment with "campaign finance reform legislation"
You complained about George Soros and the 527s, but you consider campaign finance reform to be suppression of free speech? Also, Obama is a senator ELECT - he hasn't been to a single session yet. If you are looking for a scapegoat for this "suppression of free speech", please check out one of the CURRENT senators such as John McCain, a Republican.

If we do not know who the mother is, who the father is, without knowing all the brothers and sisters, incest becomes inevitable," Keyes said Saturday at a Marquette Park rally held to oppose same-sex marriages. "Whether they mean it or not, that is what will happen. If you are masked from your knowing your biological parents, you are in danger of encountering brothers and sisters you have no knowledge of."
Congratulations to Alan Keyes. He's just indicted adoption.

I told it like it is - in the education establishment, for many years and continuing up till now, as evidenced e.g. by all the facts revealed in the U of M USSC anti-white discrimination cases, blacks are dragged along to phony educational credentials by the mighty vacuum of "affirmative action". Non-wealthy white students succeed only by producing the goods, and under disadvantaged conditions of having no race-based scholarships, fellowships, internships, etc.
Let's say you're right, for just a second, Patrick. Do you have any evidence that Obama didn't earn his spot in an Ivy League school? Or is it your position that ANY black man in an ivy league school must have been placed there by affirmative action?
 

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