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I like this little piece, it's by batsrus in LC. It sums up the way truthers feel about the nuts very nicely:

"The tower fell in a time almost identical to that of a free-falling object, dropped from that height, meaning that it's physically impossible for it to have collapsed by the method of the top floors smashing through the lower floors. But according to the conspiracy theorists, the laws of gravity were temporarily suspended on the morning of Sept 11. It appears that the evil psychic power of those dreadful Arabs knew no bounds. Even after they were dead, they were able, by the power of their evil spirits, to force down the tower at a speed physically impossible under the laws of gravity, had it been meeting any resistance from fireproofed steel structures originally designed to resist many tons of hurricane force wind as well as the impact of a Boeing passenger jet straying off course.

Clearly, these conspiracy nuts never did their science homework at school, but did become extremely adept at inventing tall tales for why.
"Muslim terrorists stole my notes, sir"
"No miss, the kerosine heater blew up and vapourized everything in the street, except for my passport."
"You see sir, the schoolbus was hijacked by Arabs who destroyed my homework because they hate our freedoms."
Or perhaps they misunderstood the term "creative science" and mistakenly thought that coming up with such rubbish was, in fact, their science homework.

The ferocious heat generated by this ghastly kerosine was, according to the conspiracy theorists, the reason why so many of the WTC victims can't be identified. DNA is destroyed by heat. (Although 2000°C isn't really required, 100°C will generally do the job.) This is quite remarkable, because according to the conspiracy theorist, the nature of DNA suddenly changes if you go to a different city. That's right! If you are killed by an Arab terrorist in New York, your DNA will be destroyed by such temperatures. But if you are killed by an Arab terrorist in Washington DC, your DNA will be so robust that it can survive temperatures which completely vapourize a 65 ton aircraft.

You see, these loonies have somehow concocted the idea that the missile which hit the pentagon was not a missile at all, but one of the hijacked planes. And to prove this unlikely premise, they point to a propaganda statement from the Bush regime, which rather stupidly claims that all but one of the people aboard the plane were identified from the site by DNA testing, even though nothing remains of the plane. The plane was vapourized by the fuel tank explosion maintain these space loonies, but the people inside it were all but one identified by DNA testing.

So there we have it. The qualities of DNA are different, depending upon which city you're in, or perhaps depending upon which fairy story you're trying to sell at any particular time.

As American's gear up to impeach the traitor Bush, and stop his perpetual oil war, it's not helpful to have these idiots distracting from the process by spreading silly conspiracy theories about mythical Arabs, stories which do nothing but play into the hands of the extremist Bush regime.

At a less serious time, we might tolerate such crackpots with amused detachment, but they need to understand that the treachery that was perpetrated on Sept 11, and the subsequent war crimes committed in "retaliation", are far too serious for us to allow such frivolous self-indulgence to go unchallenged.

Those who are truly addicted to conspiracy delusions should find a more appropriate outlet for their
Paranoia.

It's time to stop loony conspiracy theories about Sept 11."
 
I stopped reading when they made a claim that they couldn't back up...

The tower fell in a time almost identical to that of a free-falling object, dropped from that height, meaning that it's physically impossible for it to have collapsed by the method of the top floors smashing through the lower floors.

Hahah. Obviously
 
Last time I checked, the laws of gravity weren't suspended and a guy named Osama DID attack us on our own soil.
 
wow, not surprising, three abandoned threads by docker, and he starts a new one.

gee, i bet by page 20, he'll abandon this one and start another one.
 
Last time I checked, the laws of gravity weren't suspended and a guy named Osama DID attack us on our own soil.

Care to show me some hard proof against Osama?

Bear in mind the FBI has no hard evidence.
 
Last time I checked, the laws of gravity weren't suspended and a guy named Osama DID attack us on our own soil.
No he didn't. He conned some other rubes to do it for him. Last I hear, it was 19 of them.

DR
 
Care to show me some hard proof against Osama?

Bear in mind the FBI has no hard evidence.

1. The paper didn't show any hard evidence, why should I?

2. Normally you gotta capture the guy for the trials to take place and actually convict him of it.

Oh and didn't he confess on tape?
 
No, it's not by batsrus. It's a cut and paste job by batsrus. The original is by Gerald Holmgren, a real nut and no-planer. I think some Cts are even a little afraid of the guy.
 
1. The paper didn't show any hard evidence, why should I?

2. Normally you gotta capture the guy for the trials to take place and actually convict him of it.

Oh right you can confidently say Osama did attack you yet you admit he hasn't had a trial? Do you often accuse innocent people of murder.

I don't have to provide evidence, if you say Osama did it the burden of proof is on you.
 
Oh right you can confidently say Osama did attack you yet you admit he hasn't had a trial? Do you often accuse innocent people of murder.

I don't have to provide evidence, if you say Osama did it the burden of proof is on you.

he confessed. you dont need a trial to be considered guilty of a crime.
that's why so many pedophiles, rapists and murderers can go scott free.
 
No, it's not by batsrus. It's a cut and paste job by batsrus. The original is by Gerald Holmgren, a real nut and no-planer. I think some Cts are even a little afraid of the guy.

Sorry, I didn't know that. batsrus passed it off as his own.
 
Oh right you can confidently say Osama did attack you yet you admit he hasn't had a trial? Do you often accuse innocent people of murder.

I don't have to provide evidence, if you say Osama did it the burden of proof is on you.

I can say he did when the guy confesses it.

And no he isn't innocent.

Evidence? The tape of course.
 
I like this little piece, it's by batsrus in LC. It sums up the way truthers feel about the nuts very nicely:

Yawn.

It's funny the way these idiots keep writing these little twisted versions of reality. It's as if they'd read a debunk somewhere and got frightened that they were actually starting to believe it. Gotta keep reassuring yourselves - the official version is ridiculous, the official version is ridiculous... etc.
 
Thread number 6 created by Ducker, expected to be abandoned by him within 12 hours.
 
he confessed. you dont need a trial to be considered guilty of a crime.
that's why so many pedophiles, rapists and murderers can go scott free.

This is probably the worst i've heard.

Have you not heard of innocent til proven guilty?
 
I can say he did when the guy confesses it.

And no he isn't innocent.

Evidence? The tape of course.

You have had this tape looked at by experts I assume? Or did you just soak in what the goverment told you about it, like a sponge.
 
This is probably the worst i've heard.

Have you not heard of innocent til proven guilty?

When the guy freaking confesses, that is pretty much out the window, don't ya think?
 
Oh right you can confidently say Osama did attack you yet you admit he hasn't had a trial? Do you often accuse innocent people of murder.

I don't have to provide evidence, if you say Osama did it the burden of proof is on you.
The charge for 9-11, would be conspiracy, though one wonders if the evidence gained by interrogating KSM would be tossed out of court due to methods.

A more likely charge would be the Tanzania and Kenya bombings, and the USS Cole bombing.

As far as I am concerned, the executive order should be, to the team that captures him (if he is ever captured) "make sure he gets hit by enough lead during the capturing event that he is dead by the time you get the cuffs on him."


ETA: for Garb. To play devil's advocate, Mr Karr admitted to killing Jon Benet Ramsey. Confessions are a curious dog in a courtroom.

DR
 
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