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A Friendly Place?

I'm a very friendly atheist - as long as you do not try to convert me, force me to pretend otherwise, try to control what I can watch, read, say or write because it does not agree with your specific religion (whichever it may be), try to kill me for not believing - or advocate my being killed for same, try to drive me from my home/location/ job for same, etc. You have the right to be religious, I should have the right not to be.
Eventually, one of us will be proven correct - and I am perfectly, happily willing to wait.
 
Why would I believe that some theists are rationally justified in believing a theistic God exists? If I could believe something like that, I could probably just believe in God. And why would this be a requirement of "friendliness"? I mean, if you want to define "friendly" in that way, it's fine, but it's confusing, because it has nothing to do with the usual definition of friendliness.

I don't consider theists my "traditional enemies" any more than I consider people who believe in leprechauns my traditional enemies. People who want to inject their brand of theism into our secular government - those may qualify as enemies, I guess.

Atheists being friendly will do nothing to combat the stereotype of atheists being angry, bitter, etc. This is because that stereotype has no basis in reality but comes instead from the imaginations of anti-atheist Christians.

This is a free world. Atheists can simply create their own culture if they want to put some work in and they so choose. They could create the first society anywhere that has atheism as its center.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - one of the great things about atheism is it doesn't demand to be at the center of society. It confuses theists, but it's true. Most people don't believe in leprechauns, but there has been no society that has aleprechaunism as its center. It might not seem like the same thing to you, but it's the same thing.

A while ago, a group of theists, deists, and atheists "put some work in" and created a country that would officially not be centered around religion, which is something different, and better, than a society centered around atheism. Ever since, theists have been trying to screw it up.
 
No, it is not. The people who hold this stereotype do not do so because of any actual experience with atheists. They hold it because atheists are demonized in their social group. Atheists are not demonized for any actions they have taken, but because the mere existence of people who don't believe and yet live perfectly fulfilled lives is a threat.

As part of Sagan's "Demon Haunted World", they truly believe athiests, at best, are misguided and helping the Devil. At worst, they are knowing in league with the Devil.

Their world is haunted by demons who are out to trick them. It's tough to deal with people laboring under such a delusion, especially when said delusion claims that you, the athiest, are actively evil and lying.
 
I'm NOT an atheist. Many of us are NOT atheists. I rather imagine that my dear Quaker friend that posts her is far more religious and has stronger and better faith than YOU do. Let's see, you think God is telling you to post on this site as some sort of brownie point system.

Ummm, tell me what else you do to earn Brownie points with Jesus. Really.

You fall on your knees, scream "John 3:16" a few times, gloat how you're going to Heaven while Mother Theresa, who spent her whole life living poor and helping the poor, as Jesus commanded, goes to Hell because she did not have such a moment, then you get back to ordering pizza for dinner on Fridays and paying your credit card bills.
 
I misread your opening post, Stone Island. My response in post 17 was based on how we should act in the public arena in the U.S.

You were asking about being friendly to theists who post on the JREF board. The vast majority of newcomers (both Christians and non-Christians) are treated with respect. When Kurious Kathy and Amy Wilson initially appeared, they were treated in a friendly but skeptical manner. They were asked what evidence they had. They were asked how their arguments were different from those of devout Muslims or Hindus.

It was only when they ignored questions and insisted on trying to convert us that they were treated to mocking and disdain.

I could be completely mischaracterizing how Christians are treated when they arrive here. If you can point me to threads where Christians were immediately treated in an unfriendly manner, I will change my position.
 
A suggestion: instead of Just Asking a Question in response, say what your intent was. As in, "No, I was (fill in the blank)."

That would mean committing to a position and then wouldn't be able to deny that was what he meant when it turns out it's unsupportable.

He probably studied under T'ai Chi.
 
OK, I'll stop now.

Will you? No, really. I mean it. Not.

@Stoned Island: I will not answer your last question directed at me, it's a waste of time, sorry about that. Also, you haven't said what's the point of your OP, yet.

ETA: Of course, the other spammers were much quicker than me in replying to the Marquis. ;)
 
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Stone, the premise is consistent with Mr Randi's position in a general sense, but given the varied motivations and issues a given poster has, and past experiences, the penchant among some to be complete pricks is to be expected. On the other hand, Capel Dodger and drkitten, and fuelair as he noted, shine as examples of atheists who don't discuss in other than friendly ways. Lively fits. See also RandFan, Tricky, MdC, and Mercutio. I'll stop there, a fine assemblage of others also play here at R & P.

And some right pricks.

Taking the bitter with the sweet seems a good rule of thumb.

DR
 
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Well sorry to let an supported side down guys, but I am a cantankerous Atheist, I am sick of getting attempted conversions by xian stormtroopers or watching legislation being passed based on faith,

Note I am not against religion, which ever religion you follow is as important to me as whatever football team you support, Just don't EVER try and force me to support Man U or I WILL injure you.

=^..^=

you won?, No really? You won?
 
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Well sorry to let an supported side down guys, but I am a cantankerous Atheist, I am sick of getting attempted conversions by xian stormtroopers or watching legislation being passed based on faith,

Note I am not against religion, which ever religion you follow is as important to me as whatever football team you support, Just don't EVER try and force me to support Man U or I WILL injure you.

Pretty much how I feel.

I get annoyed every time this "Friendly Atheism" crap comes up because the paper can be summed up in two sentences: "Hey atheists, stop hating those who believe in god!" and "Hey atheists, stop hating those who hate you because you don't believe in god!"

The absolute last person I want to hear from about angry atheists is someone who has no interest in finding out why they're angry in the first place.
 

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