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A Chick double features

farmermike said:
I'm not arguing for "blind and turning away from questions", I think Lewis said if you decide that the weight of the evidence is against it, so be it.
Re the massive quoting of Lewis, I'm just trying to present another perspective that I think most people on this thread, have been way too dismissive of. My real beef is atheists who think they are more intelligent/enlightened than christians, simply because they discount God. But what did you think of reason and faith vs. emotion and imagination?
What perspective have we so casually dismissed? That of a disgusting bigot named Jack Chick? Gee, sorry, please tell us what bits of his philosophy we missed.

And who here, besides you, said atheists are more intelligent than Christians?

C.S. Lewis Mere Christianity William Collins and Sons 1952 pg.62
*Common objection
"Here is another thing that used to puzzle me. Is it not frightfully unfair that this new life should be confined to people who have heard of Christ and been able to believe in Him? But the truth is God has not told us what his arrangements aout the other people are. We do know that no man can be saved except through Christ; we do not know that only those who know Him can be saved through him..."
Why did you quote this? What's your point?
Romans 2:14-15 "Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law...they show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts now accusing, now defending them."
*About the old testament, I think an eye for and eye and a tooth for a tooth was meant to discourage excessive retailiation, you know-you're whole family for my tooth.
I think you missed the great deal of vitriol with which that phrase is written. Re-read, and get back to us.

*Authenticity
" there are now more than 5,300 known Greek manuscripts of the New Testament. Add over 10,000 Latin Vulgate and at least 9,300 other early versions and we have more than 24,oo manuscript copies of protions of the New Testament in existance today. No other document of antiquity even begins to approach such numbers and attestation. In comparison, the Illiad by Homer is second with only 543 manuscripts that still survive.The average time lapse between original and later copies of Greek classical authors is dated at a thousand years or more after the author's death-Latin somewhat less down to 3 centuries....some virtually complete New Testament books, as well as extensive fragmentary manuscripts of many parts of the New Testament date back to one centruy from the origianal writings Evidence That Demands a Verdict Josh McDowell Nelson1972 pg.42
Again, what's your point? So what?

Now recognizing that this could go on ad infinitum, I bid you farewell and refer you to the great Christian apologists, Francis Schaeffer is another good one, over Jack Chick.

"Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater"( the bathwater being some of the human addendums-religious observances etc.) Au revoir as we say in Quebec.
Yep, best to leave before you accidentally say anything of substance, or actually challenge your mind in the least bit. Bye!
 
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Fair massive Snippage hath occured:


Suezoled said:


Anyway, Jack Chick is an agent of mass hilarity, spewing his hatred of gays, roman catholics, non-King James versions of Bibles, Halloween, etc etc all over the place.


And, the saddest thing is, almost everyone still flips through them--they're like a very bad car wreck: No matter how bad it is, how sick it will make you, you still feel the need to take a peek.

But, unlike a wreck, we can sometimes find something to laugh at.

Even if Chick & Co. are deadly serious.
 
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farmermike said:
(snipped) My real beef is atheists who think they are more intelligent/enlightened than christians, simply because they discount God. But what did you think of reason and faith vs. emotion and imagination?
False dilemma, false assumption, straw man burning, get the marshmallows!
C.S. Lewis Mere Christianity William Collins and Sons 1952 pg.62
*Common objection
"Here is another thing that used to puzzle me. Is it not frightfully unfair that this new life should be confined to people who have heard of Christ and been able to believe in Him? But the truth is God has not told us what his arrangements aout the other people are. We do know that no man can be saved except through Christ; we do not know that only those who know Him can be saved through him..."
Really? You know, huh? Prove it. Where't the evidence. Send me a celestial being who is a messenger of the christian god you worship, telling me that your way is the best... or perhaps CS Lewis, being another mortal, is also making assumptions?
Romans 2:14-15 "Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law...they show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts now accusing, now defending them."
*About the old testament, I think an eye for and eye and a tooth for a tooth was meant to discourage excessive retailiation, you know-you're whole family for my tooth.
You are, you realize, the same person who argued for the unchanging nature of god. God decreed to his worshippers eye for eye, tooth for tooth. But then again, he also said "if your hand offends thee, cut it off, for better to live maimed than in contempt." Which is the very same god who said "he who is malformed/crippled/ etc and enters my home is committing an abomination, and is unclean." Hmmm... and do stop arguing for the noble savage, as that clan did not believe in christianity.
*Authenticity
" there are now more than 5,300 known Greek manuscripts of the New Testament. (snipped)
Now recognizing that this could go on ad infinitum, I bid you farewell and refer you to the great Christian apologists, Francis Schaeffer is another good one, over Jack Chick.
Appeal to popularity to verify authenticity? Still, you do know that christianity is a minority religion in the world, right?
And HELLO! This thread isn't about christianity, it's about Jack Chick, who just happens to be a hateful, merciless, ugly manifestation of christianity. Jack Chick could be Jewish, or Hindu, or Buddhist, or an atheist, and he would still be laughed at, for his vile venom that he spews and tries to disguise as lessons from some loving god.
 

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