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A Buddist has an NDE

SRW

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My Sister-in-law owns a Restaurants in Flushing NY (Little Lamb Happy Family Restaurant), she is very allergic to watermelons, and someone brought one in. If that was not bad enough she took a bite. It was enough to put her into the hospital. This has happened before and usually she gets a shot and a warning...this time she went into cardiac arrest. She was rushed into surgery for open heart, and this is where it gets interesting.

While she was being operated on her "sole" left her body, she was able to hear the interaction amongst the medical personal, And even though she speaks limited English, she was able to understand the doctors. (Ok this was in little china so they all were speaking Mandarin.) Anyway she floated above until they closed her up, then she remembers them waking her up in recovery.

That is it for now, I am getting this second hand but I expect when I visit her to get all the bells and whistles. She did die on the operating table, but there was no bright light, no relativities to coax her into the afterlife, just watching the Doc's fix her.

I cannot wait to get back their, cause the story should be better, and the food never disappoints.

And if you go there tell them Steve from California, (Teresa's husband) sent you and they will take good care of you.

Steve

P.S. I sold her back my interest in the business, so I have no part of it.
 
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SRW said:
She did die on the operating table, but there was no bright light, no relativities to coax her into the afterlife, just watching the Doc's fix her.
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I'd just like to point out that she didn't die on the operating table! Whatever else death is, it's final. That someone is able to say "I died" is the best proof you can have that they didn't.
 
So she KNEW PRIOR to this incident that she is ALERGIC
"she is very allergic to watermelons, and someone brought one in. If that was"

YET she TOOK a BITE
"not bad enough she took a bite"

I think enough said about her reasoning, critical thinking and her ability to asses reality!
 
SRW said:
While she was being operated on her "sole" left her body
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They accidentally cut her foot off?

she was able to hear the interaction amongst the medical personal, And even though she speaks limited English, she was able to understand the doctors. (Ok this was in little china so they all were speaking Mandarin.) Anyway she floated above until they closed her up, then she remembers them waking her up in recovery.
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The thing is, there is a big difference between thinking you can remember this and actually remembering it. Basically, this was a dream. There has been some research into this, although not very much, and every time it is tested to see if people can see something that they do not expect to be there, they don't see it. For example, if there is a sign on top of a cupboard that the patient does not know about they never report seeing it, even though they claim to be floating around the ceiling.

In some cases it can even get quite nasty. My father has been sued because a woman claimed she had an experience like this and said she saw and heard him and another doctor (who she had met previously) joking about her and hiding things inside her body. It is quite possible she really thought it was real, but the best proof against it was that the other doctor was on holiday on the other side of the world at the time. She had just dreamed it. The point is, what people think they experience during this kind of experience is not necessarily what actually happened.

Also, as Irish said, she very clearly did not die because if she had she would be dead. It's possible her heart stopped, and in fact if it really was open heart surgery is is absolutely guaranteed that her heart stopped. The heart stopping is not the definition of death and means very little as far as brain death is concerned, although obviously it will lead to brain death without artificial support.
 
Cuddles said:
There has been some research into this, although not very much, and every time it is tested to see if people can see something that they do not expect to be there, they don't see it. For example, if there is a sign on top of a cupboard that the patient does not know about they never report seeing it, even though they claim to be floating around the ceiling.
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Source?
 
The fact that she understood the doctors, when they would have been speaking in a different language, ougth to be enough to say that it was all a dream.
 
SRW said:
While she was being operated on her "sole" left her body, she was able to hear the interaction amongst the medical personal, And even though she speaks limited English, she was able to understand the doctors. (Ok this was in little china so they all were speaking Mandarin.) Anyway she floated above until they closed her up, then she remembers them waking her up in recovery.

That is it for now, I am getting this second hand but I expect when I visit her to get all the bells and whistles. She did die on the operating table, but there was no bright light, no relativities to coax her into the afterlife, just watching the Doc's fix her.
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Come onw, SRW. The reason is obvious. What is a bright light but the opening to Heaven? If she is Buddhist, then she is obviously not invited to Heaven so no bright light, and all the angels would be forbidden to coax her.

Don't you know anything about the afterlife?
 
Tricky said:
Come onw, SRW. The reason is obvious. What is a bright light but the opening to Heaven? If she is Buddhist, then she is obviously not invited to Heaven so no bright light, and all the angels would be forbidden to coax her.

Don't you know anything about the afterlife?
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That'd be true, Tricky, if she were a Buddhist, but SRW clearly states that she is a Buddist. This is the small sect that teaches Bud Abbot was God incarnate.

I just love their chants: "Whaaaaat's the naaaaame of the guy on secoooooond!"
 
JoeTheJuggler said:
That'd be true, Tricky, if she were a Buddhist, but SRW clearly states that she is a Buddist. This is the small sect that teaches Bud Abbot was God incarnate.

I just love their chants: "Whaaaaat's the naaaaame of the guy on secoooooond!"
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LOL.

And their prayers begin with "Heyyyyyyyyaaaaaaaabbbbbott"
 
On Radio4's the material world, there was a mention of an experiment that is currently running in rescuscitation rooms (terminology?) in the UK. The resercher has persuaded people to paste cards with messages to the ceilings (message side to the ceiling)... I liked the idea, and look on it as cheap performance art.

So far I am not aware of any people having read these messages during any NDEs.

Jim
 
Tricky said:
Come onw, SRW. The reason is obvious. What is a bright light but the opening to Heaven? If she is Buddhist, then she is obviously not invited to Heaven so no bright light, and all the angels would be forbidden to coax her.

Don't you know anything about the afterlife?
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Me, I don't know a thing about it.
I am just passing on the experience second hand from my wife. (my own babblefish) http://www.tashian.com/multibabel/

Personally I do not believe the afterlife exists --- and believe that NDEs are a function of a stressed mind.

My sister in-law believes otherwise. Hopefully; I'll have more to recount as she recovers.
 
casebro said:
The fact that she understood the doctors, when they would have been speaking in a different language, ougth to be enough to say that it was all a dream.
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My first thought also:

She does not speak English, how could she understand the Doctors?

It turns out the Dr is Chinese not hard to find New York. So if she did hear them it is consistent that they would speak Chinese.

(I bet she dreams in Mandarin also).
 
jimbob said:
On Radio4's the material world, there was a mention of an experiment that is currently running in rescuscitation rooms (terminology?) in the UK. The resercher has persuaded people to paste cards with messages to the ceilings (message side to the ceiling)... I liked the idea, and look on it as cheap performance art.

So far I am not aware of any people having read these messages during any NDEs.

Jim
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I read something similar in a novel. The protagonist was a fairly skeptical NDE researcher. She had something (a shoe, IIRC) on top of a cabinet in the room where she experimented with drug-induced NDEs. She'd ask subjects who reported floating up to the top of the room and looking down what was up there.

can't remember the name of this book, but it was a great read. It turns out the "universal" NDE is actually an experience of the Titanic sinking--a metaphor for the shutting down of the body. (It was left ambiguous, though, if there was any actual post-life or supernatural experience.) Anyone know the novel?
 
I heard it as a red sneaker, in a book about NDEs as if they were factual. My sister the ER nurse read the book, not me. Unless she too heard it third hand?
 
I think it was a red sneaker in the novel. (The one I read was definitely a novel.)

I remember the protagonist spent a lot of time educating believers about confabulation and such.


And the fallibility of memory--like why the novel and author's name completely elude me right now.
 
I'm glad she didn't see Buddah. Buddah specifically told people not to worship him as God, but they keep doing it anyway.

I must admit that I do rub the Buddah's belly and wish for fun at restaurants though. Seems harmless enough.
 
Sometimes during my migraines, I'll lay down, close my eyes, and be able to, "see," my room. I can see the corner of the room perfectly, if I'm at school, I can see the top of my desk perfectly.

What I can't see is people moving around. Apparently my brain is just filling in what I would be looking at. I know my head is pointed towards that wall, so my brain produces the image of that wall. But if my roommate is walking around where I would be able to see her, I can't. The best I get is a shadow in an approximation of where I think she is, but if I open my eyes, they don't match up.
 
JJR said:
I'm glad she didn't see Buddah. Buddah specifically told people not to worship him as God, but they keep doing it anyway.

I must admit that I do rub the Buddah's belly and wish for fun at restaurants though. Seems harmless enough.
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I don't think he'd object if it makes you happy. Seems like he was a nice guy.
 
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