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911 Audio Debates Thread!

re: Server speed - I "right" clicked (2 fingers on the macbook trackpad), and chose "open in iTunes" and was listening in about 2 seconds.
 
I got an average ping rate of about 46 milliseconds from Seattle WA with 0 packets lost. The servers fine.
 
Excellent stuff chaps!

They seemed to have choked the FTP upload bandwidth though I get only 10KBs. I'll have to look at the settings there or open a ticket. Perhaps they may do that to prevent me reselling the hosting?


Thanks

Compus
 
Compus,

the site looks awesome. I got a few more debates featuring Brainster and James Bermas if you want them.

I want to also say I should look into trying to convert flv and other file types into mp3. That way a couple good youtube vids can be used on the site.

People in my dwelling are no longer using all the bandwidth so now I can start looking for more files. I'll post them here.
 
Compus,
the site looks awesome. I got a few more debates featuring Brainster and James Bermas if you want them.
I want to also say I should look into trying to convert flv and other file types into mp3. That way a couple good youtube vids can be used on the site.
People in my dwelling are no longer using all the bandwidth so now I can start looking for more files. I'll post them here.



I'm beginning to build up a little collection now. There's over a dozen debates up so far. Thanks for your help, keep 'em coming.

I'd be very interested in the brainster/bermas links, saves me google-time thanks again.

The flv>mp3 is an option, there's plenty to get on with ATM though.

Fetzer has a huge twooferfest on his radio blog HERE so much I will have to be choosy and pick out the most interesting/amusing. Most of his guests are of the same truther stamp as him, he doesn't like too much opposition. Although the Prof Jones vs Fetzer debate is highly amusing. In it Fetzer goes off on a loopy tangent about grand pianos falling slower than freefall (if the piano top is open) it's coffee-spitting brilliant. I am thinking of compiling a few of these types of verbal stundies but that's another time, another place.

I'm quite knackered so am hitting the sack soon. I'll work on more stuff tomorrow evening. See my sig for the link.

ETA How do I add a sig? Can't get it to work do I have to have a post quota?

Compus
 
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You have more than enough posts. Go to user CP at the top of the page and the edit signature option is there.
 
You have more than enough posts. Go to user CP at the top of the page and the edit signature option is there.


Yep done that, still doesn't show. Is it enabled elsewhere in the CP?

ETA Doh! Its there thanks

Compus
 
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I got too much Fetzer in the Hardfire debates. He makes talking over people and hogging all the air time an art. srsly.
 
I got too much Fetzer in the Hardfire debates. He makes talking over people and hogging all the air time an art. srsly.


Hey Knife, thanks for the plug on the Podcast thread.

Just tumbled out of the sack. Have few hours spare to work on the site.

Anyway, about Fetzer, where do I start? He is, as you say, a terrible interviewee/host. He just cannot button it for more than a few seconds, he has an overactive waffle gland I think. But, oddly, I find the bloke highly amusing. I have only just started to listen to his output and I must recommend at least one or two of his debates as I think they perfectly illustrate the disintegration of the TM after it's "peak" of 2006.

The "disinformation syndrome" necrosis that is destroying the TM is a subject fascinating to me. I would love to find the first instance of someone in the TM accusing another of "disinfo".

For the reasons above my favourite Fetzer debate so far is the confrontation between him and Prof. Jones (HERE). For those who may not know, this was just after the "Scholars for 9/11 Truth" split in the winter of 2006/2007. Fetzer and Jones were co-chairs of Sf9/11T and their association comes to an ignomious end right here. There's a JREF thread HERE that gives good insight into what led up to that. Briefly, at the core of the whole split was Fetzers love-in with Judy Wood, Jones objected to that. That sets the stage for the "battle" that ensued.

Fetzer and Jones exchanged a few letters (see HERE and HERE)

Then we come to the "debate". It's from Fetzers Dynamic Duo Radio Show on GCN. Fetzer kicks off hilariously ranting and rambling on about grand pianos on helium balloons and many other ad-homs and gripes, when he finally takes a breath Jones is introduced then it gradually worsens even further from there. Fetzer and Jones snipe at each other about their respective qualifications and published works. Fetzer tries to lecture Jones on the "Nature of Science". Jones, who mostly seems like a quiet affable man, eventually loses his rag and Fetzer resorts to turning down Jones' volume. I've heard more mature interactions when my grandson plays yu-gi-oh card battles with his best friend but it is compulsive listening.

All-in-all, not a really productive advert for the TM. In fact the opposite is true. For that reason (and the humour content).....Highly recommended.


Compus
 
Compus you reminded me of another possible addition to your site in mentioning Judy Wood.

In one of the Gravy vs. Fetzer debates Gravy quotes Wood from some kind of interview which Fetzer labeled a 'hit piece'. I take that to mean that the interviewer was asking critical questions about her research. They also mentioned that the interviewer was a physicist.

That is all I know about it so I don't know for sure if it is attainable and I hope that if it is it will be in mp3 format and a good listen. I'm gonna search Wood's site again right now.

Any other JREFers know what I'm referring to please chime in!
 
Compus you reminded me of another possible addition to your site in mentioning Judy Wood.


I think you are referring to the Dr Greg Jenkins Wood video interview (HERE). Thanks for reminding me about it.
If I remember correctly, Jenkins is a truther. He mangles Woods' "research" and Wood squirms uncomfortably under the attack.

Yes it is very interesting. I'll look it up to see if I can find it in mp3 format. Or convert the flv to mp3.

Compus
 
Ah! Beat me to it! Yeah the interview sounds right up your alley. Truther vs Truther battle in the Thunderdome!

maybe http://zamzar.com/ can convert it to mp3. I don't remember how big the file is.
 
Had a couple of bottles of Chardonnay tonight so everythings a bit giddy.

Must say though, I fuggin luvs this site, you guys are great.


Compus
 
Proof again Richard Gage is a liar and can only form moronic delusions on 9/11. Sad pathetic little man.
 
Update, the 9/11 Debates site is undergoing some maintenance today so files may be missing or unavailable. It should be sorted within an hour or so.

ETA Taking longer than I thought apologies if anyones having problems. Should be sorted out in another couple of hours

Compus
 
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This is probably one of the best and most useful threads on the jref. Hats off to the priginator.
Here is an interview between Richard Gage and Alex Jones. Don't know the date but it was after Charlie Sheen and the National Geographic show.
Richard Gage and Alex Jones 2009
http://www.radiodujour.com/mp3/20090909_alexjones_richardgage.mp3


Bill, not really a debate though is it? More like an arse-kissing contest. How about something with a bit more meat? These two just kick through the 9/11 CT boneash.

Got anything that includes opposition to the TM point of view?


Compus
 

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